Best Chainsaw Sharpner?

   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #21  
I asked this question to a professional logger and his reply: "Real loggers use a file and unskilled logger wannabes use an electric sharpener". I don't know if he was serious or joking?

Well, as a hack chainsaw dude (not unlike me being a hack at everything else), alls I could say is that I could sharpen my 2 chains with the electric gadget thingie from Harbor Fright in way less time/effort than it takes me to sharpen 1 chain with a manual file, sooooo.... And, it does a way better job of it.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #22  
"best" depends on the user. It takes some practice to be able to hand file well. Some people are better at keeping a consistent angle and filing the underside of the tooth than others.

I learned to hand file when I was running saws all day every day for work. The feedback loop from filing to using was short, so I learned fast. I had it down in a week or so. Someone running a saw a few hours each weekend would take a long time to have that same experience. I've tried the Granberg type guide and found it cumbersome and slow.

A couple years back I was running my saws every afternoon doing brush clearing. I splurged and bought a nice electric grinder. I use it on chains that got rocked or hit a nail in a tree, and to true up the angles and tooth lengths after many hand filings.

I don't take much off the teeth when I'm filing or grinding. Just enough to make a sharp edge and get back to clean chrome on the tops of the teeth. The rakers rarely need to be taken down.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #23  
"best" depends on the user. It takes some practice to be able to hand file well. Some people are better at keeping a consistent angle and filing the underside of the tooth than others. I learned to hand file when I was running saws all day every day for work. The feedback loop from filing to using was short, so I learned fast. I had it down in a week or so. Someone running a saw a few hours each weekend would take a long time to have that same experience. I've tried the Granberg type guide and found it cumbersome and slow. A couple years back I was running my saws every afternoon doing brush clearing. I splurged and bought a nice electric grinder. I use it on chains that got rocked or hit a nail in a tree, and to true up the angles and tooth lengths after many hand filings. I don't take much off the teeth when I'm filing or grinding. Just enough to make a sharp edge and get back to clean chrome on the tops of the teeth. The rakers rarely need to be taken down.

I agree with Eric and do trail clearing. By that, we work in the dirt and dull chains rather quickly. We simply hand file chains for a quick resharpening and can do that many times, before the rakes need to be knocked down. After a while, the chains need to be machine sharpened and angles corrected.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #24  
I asked this question to a professional logger and his reply: "Real loggers use a file and unskilled logger wannabes use an electric sharpener". I don't know if he was serious or joking?
probably serious. but heck with it. i use my oregon electric sharpener. does an awesome job. chains are like new. fast job of sharpening to boot. as a plus, by removing the chain a have a chance to blow out saw with air nozzle.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #26  
I find I get on best with a good quality diamond file. The art is, to let the file do the work without too much pressure.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #27  
I hand file if no other option is available but in most cases start my trip to the woods with a sharp chain on the saw and another sharp chain in a bucket.
When chips turn to dust I will swap chains in the field and continue to work. At the end of the day or on a bad weather day I will tune up the chains with my Oregon Grinder and service the saw as necessary in preparation for another days work.

B. John
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #28  
I've tried HF sharpener, too much play in them to work well. I've used the hand held electric ones, not bad if you are careful. I just prefer to hand file, chains last longer and stay sharper.

My biggest use of chains were in 1996, hurricane Fran, I had 40+ trees down and under muddy water. I spent the first few weeks helping other neighbors with trees. Got some rain to wash most of the mud away. Even when the trees looked clean, at dusk, it was a chainsaw sparks show... I would dull 4 or 5 chains per day and spent the night sharpening them... nothing else to do without power... Had a 44" diameter oak that cut into 6" disks (that was as much wood as I could roll up the hill to the street) about 12 feet (gone to waste).

Ended up throwing 6 of the 8 chains that I had... the last two were pretty worn too...
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #29  
D9BF89B5-70F3-4330-A384-C4E8DC952882.jpegMine's made by Oregon, I buy a box of 9 for about 15 bucks. Yet all of the other methods mentioned above work for the user, otherwise they wouldn't be posting about it. For best results put it in a vise and use a file guide when it starts to get out of whack. I usually run the file across the teeth about every other tank of gas though, and take the rakers down about every 5th sharpening.
This is what I use for a file guide. I have one for each chain size.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #31  
The main advantage of the bench grinders is speed. However, in my experience even a high-end grinder in the hands of an experienced operator does not do as good a job as a file in the hands of someone experienced in it's use.

Having said that, I've met dozens of people who claim to be very good at free-hand filing (using just a bare round file with no guides of any sort). Most of them could make their chains cut better than a dull chain. However, I have met only three who actually were really good at it - they could reliably make their chains cut better than a brand new out of the box chain. (Sadly, I am not one of those three. I've never put the effort into that.)

I have never felt the need to learn with just a bare round file, since I can get better than new results with a round file using a roller guide or the Oregon-type file guide that clips onto the file and occasionally touching up the rakers with a progressive depth gauge guide. I've also tried the Stihl 2-in-1 file guide. I found it fast and easy to learn. Someone new to sharpening can learn to get good results quickly, and it saves some time by not needing to separately address the rakers. I prefer the Roller or the Oregon guides, since they allow the use of a progressive depth gauge tool on the rakers (the Stihl 2-in-1 uses a non-progressive method for setting the rakers). This gives a slight edge in cutting speed, and means that you don't have to worry about keeping your cutters all the same length.

When using a guide, you do have to put up with the sneers of those who file with a bare round file and their comments about needing "training wheels". I've shut a few of them up over the years by challenging them to sharpen their saw and I'll sharpen mine and we'll see how they compare when cutting for speed and straightness of cut. The challenge generally worked out well for me - except when I finally ran into one of the three I mentioned earlier who was in fact really good with a bare file. (One of the loudest self-proclaimed bare file experts was embarrassed when he found out that my 57cc saw had just beaten out his 70cc saw - but then he was simply not very good at sharpening at all, he just thought he was). It's not that I claim any particular genius when sharpening with a guide, it just that it is significantly easier to get good results with a guide than without. Someone new to sharpening can get acceptable results using a guide with just a short training session and a little bit of practice. With just a bit more practice and maybe some pointers from someone with some experience, they can match new chain performance.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #32  
I have one of them, that flexomatic POS got kicked under the bench in short order!

It's lack of adjustments sucks too...

SR
Sorry dude, but if you're being for real, you're either using it wrong or you got a bum unit. This thing adjusts all sorts of ways, and theres lots of good reviews on it for a reason.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #33  
I just use a dremel and the correct diameter stone. I usually pull the bar off and clamp it in my vise and have at it. It's not hard to hold the correct angle and all you have to do is touch each tooth a second and move to the next. I mark the first tooth with a sharpie and go all the way around in one direction then switch sides and do the opposing teeth. I just touch the rakes as I go and don't bother with a guide for those either. I have 3 or 4 chains and do them all at once then throw the spares back in the boxes and keep them in the saw case.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #34  
Sorry dude, but if you're being for real, you're either using it wrong or you got a bum unit. This thing adjusts all sorts of ways, and theres lots of good reviews on it for a reason.
Did you read post #28? Apparently, I'm not the only one to try one of those POS out, and see it for what it is...

The only $30 buck sharpener HF sells here, does not allow you to adjust it to take rakers down, the very purpose I was going to use it for, seeing as how it flex's waaaay too much, to be a decent sharpener for anything else.

Try out a GOOD sharpener and you will see just how bad that HF POS flex's all over...

SR
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #35  
Well there's your problem right there, you bought a machine which does not file down rakers...to file down rakers. All this machine does is sharpen the teeth, which it does great. You need a $5 depth gauge and file for the rakers.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #36  
My dad tried one of those HF things :thumbdown:. Didnt take but one season of use for him to trade up to a Tecomec.

Me been using a USG for the guys bringing me in bulk chains.
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #37  
Well there's your problem right there, you bought a machine which does not file down rakers...to file down rakers. All this machine does is sharpen the teeth, which it does great. You need a $5 depth gauge and file for the rakers.
You need to reread what I said, here let me explain better.

the HF sharpener is a flexomatic POS that flex's too much to be a good sharpener for the teeth, so as a last resort I figured I'd use it for taking down the rakers, but it won't even do that!

My Oregon sharpener will adjust to take down the rakers, and this thread is about the best, not worst!!

SR
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #38  
Easy Rob, you're going to dull your teeth. :irked:
 
   / Best Chainsaw Sharpner? #40  
I have a HF unit free to anyone just pay shipping and handling. I can't get it to repeat as it seems to take mre out of each tooth as you go.
 

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