bar oil test

[Rockbadchild]

So you are offended because he is using his "Business" account to purchase items for his "Business"

what tell you he is ''offended'' ... I think he is simply pointing out the hypocrisy from the guy in the video and as a response from someone in this tread pointing that out, I think 5030 point his valid and exaggerate his response to be so offended is stirring the pot, he makes money from these video's he dose these video to make money and get views, you can't complained it cost money to make videos in order to make money from videos. That be like complaining it cost money to put gas in your car to go to work. If he didn't make money he wouldn't make that many video or spend money making these video.

 

[RandyT]

what tell you he is ''offended'' ... I think he is simply pointing out the hypocrisy from the guy in the video and as a response from someone in this tread pointing that out, I think 5030 point his valid and exaggerate his response to be so offended is stirring the pot, he makes money from these video's he dose these video to make money and get views, you can't complained it cost money to make videos in order to make money from videos. That be like complaining it cost money to put gas in your car to go to work. If he didn't make money he wouldn't make that many video or spend money making these video.

I just got that feeling right or wrong with this part of 5030 post, and maybe I was just thinking why does it matter were the money came from. The YT money or personal money. And no shade to 5030 just thinking out loud

Keep in mind that the guy on 'Project Farm derives income from YT every time you view his YT channel. I suspect strongly that he buys all the stuff he uses from his YT income and not directly out of pocket at all. He always says 'I'm not sponsored by anyone and I buy all the stuff used in my testing myself'. What he don't ever allude to is where that income to buy the stuff is coming from. I know, from his YT profit.

But could of also been a response to post 28 by etpm. Now I have a question?

That be like complaining it cost money to put gas in your car to go to work.

It that work money or directly out of pocket money? Same as YT money and directly out of pocket money. That was the point with my post with 5030 And offended may not of been the correct term to use.

 

[4570Man]

I always buy the cheapest bar oil I can get and after the good results it got I will continue doing it. Even if it got worse results I’d probably still continue doing it. A new bar and chain combo is like $75 for a 20” one that I run. I can usually find the cheap oil on sale for $6.99 where the name brand is $30. I’ve saved enough money in 4 gallons to buy a new bar and chain. My bars aren’t wearing out excessively fast and are lasting for a lot more than 4 gallons of oil through the saw. I don’t intentionally buy motor oil for a saw because it cost more than actual bar oil but I’ve been caught with only motor oil or hydraulic oil available or had a partial container to use up and I’ve put quite a bit of both through a saw and it seems to work fine.

 

[4570Man]

what tell you he is ''offended'' ... I think he is simply pointing out the hypocrisy from the guy in the video and as a response from someone in this tread pointing that out, I think 5030 point his valid and exaggerate his response to be so offended is stirring the pot, he makes money from these video's he dose these video to make money and get views, you can't complained it cost money to make videos in order to make money from videos. That be like complaining it cost money to put gas in your car to go to work. If he didn't make money he wouldn't make that many video or spend money making these video.

Of course he makes money from the videos. Who would think he buys thousands of dollars of products and spends hundreds of hours testing and filming them for free? I’m sure he deducts the money he spent on supplies off his taxes too.

 

[Rockbadchild]

It that work money or directly out of pocket money? Same as YT money and directly out of pocket money. That was the point with my post with 5030 And offended may not of been the correct term to use.

I simply hate character attack or insult in a argument. In my opinion the first who start insulting the other one character in a argument automatically lose the argument.

Not sure if I follow is it the same when only on income is present. But in this case he certainly has two income. When there is two income present one should ''assume'' you used the income of one revenue toward that work expenses at least that how it should work especially in a private business scenario like this one ... if no income comes from YT then he could say that, it be it's out of pocket money in that case... I am sure at first for this guy it was a valid thing to say, he was most likely doing it for fun or for his own curiosity and sharing his result it take a certain amounts of likes and subscriptions to make money on YT but once a channel is profitable you don't do it only for fun anymore and you can't say that.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Of course he makes money from the videos. Who would think he buys thousands of dollars of products and spends hundreds of hours testing and filming them for free? I’m sure he deducts the money he spent on supplies off his taxes too.

I am not sure why you are repeating back to me what I pretty much stated ? I am not the one you need to convince.

 

[RandyT]

I always buy the cheapest bar oil I can get and after the good results it got I will continue doing it. Even if it got worse results I’d probably still continue doing it. A new bar and chain combo is like $75 for a 20” one that I run. I can usually find the cheap oil on sale for $6.99 where the name brand is $30. I’ve saved enough money in 4 gallons to buy a new bar and chain. My bars aren’t wearing out excessively fast and are lasting for a lot more than 4 gallons of oil through the saw. I don’t intentionally buy motor oil for a saw because it cost more than actual bar oil but I’ve been caught with only motor oil or hydraulic oil available or had a partial container to use up and I’ve put quite a bit of both through a saw and it seems to work fine.

You bring up a very good point. None of the bar oils are causing excessive chain or bar wear they are causing premature failure. People don't replace chains due to link wear or bars for rail wear. Most bars are replaced due to external damage due to being pinched, bent, or nose sprocket failure. Chains either get bent, hit foreign objects or just get filed down to the point they need replaced.

 

[RandyT]

I simply hate character attack or insult in a argument. In my opinion the first who start insulting the other one character in a argument automatically lose the argument.

Not sure if I follow is it the same when only on income is present. But in this case he certainly has two income. When there is two income present one should ''assume'' you used the income of one revenue toward that work expenses at least that how it should work especially in a private business scenario like this one ... if no income comes from YT then he could say that, it be it's out of pocket money in that case... I am sure at first for this guy it was a valid thing to say, he was most likely doing it for fun or for his own curiosity and sharing his result it take a certain amounts of likes and subscriptions to make money on YT but once a channel is profitable you don't do it only for fun anymore and you can't say that.

Do we know if there are two incomes and not YT is his sole income. Even if two incomes, depending on how his "Business" YT is setup If sole proprietorship. The YT income would be considered personal income. So either way it is still "out of pocket"

 

[dfkrug]

He should have thrown hydraulic fluid in there. My Limb Hog is self oiled from the hydraulics. I've often wondered how that would compare to bar oil.

Very interesting ProjectFarm video. I, too, would love to have seen hydraulic oil included. I use it exclusively, and I use a LOT of bar oil when chainsaw milling. I use an oiler tank at the end of my 52" bar to feed oil under the chain, and it only has gravity flow pressure. At only 24" above the bar, my oil line clogs easily.

And, both brands of hydraulic chainsaws I have owned (Fairmont and Stanley) use hyd oil for lube, strategically leaked onto the chain.

High viscosity oil, or that guey stuff would not work well for milling, IMO.

 

[CliffordK]

I always buy the cheapest bar oil I can get and after the good results it got I will continue doing it. Even if it got worse results I’d probably still continue doing it. A new bar and chain combo is like $75 for a 20” one that I run. I can usually find the cheap oil on sale for $6.99 where the name brand is $30. I’ve saved enough money in 4 gallons to buy a new bar and chain. My bars aren’t wearing out excessively fast and are lasting for a lot more than 4 gallons of oil through the saw. I don’t intentionally buy motor oil for a saw because it cost more than actual bar oil but I’ve been caught with only motor oil or hydraulic oil available or had a partial container to use up and I’ve put quite a bit of both through a saw and it seems to work fine.

My grandfather apparently just kept around some used motor oil that he'd feed through the chainsaw. You can't go much cheaper than that!!! However, your calculation that a few gallons would pay for a new chain and bar as needed probably makes sense.
I do some pruning and firewood, but I don't think I've ever worn out a chain or a bar. I personally like new oil because it is cleaner. However, I don't get too picky. Perhaps I'll try to hunt down some of the Harvest King that did well in the Project Farm tests.

 

[ArlyA]

My grandfather apparently just kept around some used motor oil that he'd feed through the chainsaw. You can't go much cheaper than that!!! However, your calculation that a few gallons would pay for a new chain and bar as needed probably makes sense.
I do some pruning and firewood, but I don't think I've ever worn out a chain or a bar. I personally like new oil because it is cleaner. However, I don't get too picky. Perhaps I'll try to hunt down some of the Harvest King that did well in the Project Farm tests.

Used motor oil is a proven carcinogen. I won't and wouldn't suggest anyone using that stuff.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Do we know if there are two incomes and not YT is his sole income. Even if two incomes, depending on how his "Business" YT is setup If sole proprietorship. The YT income would be considered personal income. So either way it is still "out of pocket"

He had to have a previous job at some point he is 52, his channel started in 2017, you don't make money right away on YT so one should assume he had two incomes at one point these things work in a transition. Today his channel is definitely a business he files tax as YT being a source of income and his videos expenses as a tax break. call it out of pocket if you want I call it from youtube revenue.

 

[5030]

So you are offended because he is using his "Business" account to purchase items for his "Business"

Not at all. I don't care what he does actually. Just pointing out what / where he derives income from. You can do the same thing if you want to, I care less. If you did, it's highly doubtful I'd ever watch your video's anyway.

All I'm doing is distilling what he does and how he does it. Just like Andrew Camarata who I don't ever watch anyway.

His term 'I pay for all this stuff myself and I'm not sponsored by anyone' is sort of a half truth, half lie.

He don't buy all that stuff on his 'allowance' by any means. Just like his wear scar machine and his 'deep freeze'. That stuff came about from his earnings from YT click through's

YT pays creators for their content based in views and subscriptions and the Pateron deal is added income for selling Gee-Gaw to their subscribers.

Not something I'm interested in at all.

In essence, it's nothing more than creative marketing and again, I care less.

Take a helluva lot more to offend me that him, or you for that matter.

 

[RandyT]

Not at all. I don't care what he does actually. Just pointing out what / where he derives income from. You can do the same thing if you want to, I care less. If you did, it's highly doubtful I'd ever watch your video's anyway.

All I'm doing is distilling what he does and how he does it. Just like Andrew Camarata who I don't ever watch anyway.

His term 'I pay for all this stuff myself and I'm not sponsored by anyone' is sort of a half truth, half lie.

He don't buy all that stuff on his 'allowance' by any means. Just like his wear scar machine and his 'deep freeze'. That stuff came about from his earnings from YT click through's

YT pays creators for their content based in views and subscriptions and the Pateron deal is added income for selling Gee-Gaw to their subscribers.

Not something I'm interested in at all.

In essence, it's nothing more than creative marketing and again, I care less.

Take a helluva lot more to offend me that him, or you for that matter.

 

[5030]

He had to have a previous job at some point he is 52, his channel started in 2017, you don't make money right away on YT so one should assume he had two incomes at one point these things work in a transition. Today his channel is definitely a business he files tax as YT being a source of income and his videos expenses as a tax break. call it out of pocket if you want I call it from youtube revenue.

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Sure ain't in it for the 'beer'. It don't have to be publically known anyway. All I know is, he's making some serious jack, just like Andrew Camarata and Scott Kilmer and others.

Again, I don't care and more power to them so long as the YT 'gravy train continues.

 

[5030]

One thing for certain, he needs to scrap the 'Farmabago' and get a real motor home. He can afford it.

 

[CliffordK]

Keep in mind that the guy on 'Project Farm derives income from YT every time you view his YT channel. I suspect strongly that he buys all the stuff he uses from his YT income and not directly out of pocket at all. He always says 'I'm not sponsored by anyone and I buy all the stuff used in my testing myself'. What he don't ever allude to is where that income to buy the stuff is coming from. I know, from his YT profit.

Yep, that is how Youtube works.

His point is that he isn't getting samples sent to him from manufacturers wanting him to promote their products. He isn't getting paid to advertise a specific vendor's product.

I.E. Unbiased testing.

Other channels either subtly, or not so subtly put product promotions in their videos.

It is quite possible that if you're watching a car maintenance video, and they're showing you brands or suppliers that they've been given significant discounts to use those brands, or even are getting paid to use them. I'm trying to think of specific examples. I think a few of the Motortrend videos are like that. TruckU?

In this case, Project Farm has no vested interested to promote Stihl, Oregon, or Harvest King. He'll tell you what he found, as well as his testing procedure that you should be able to replicate if you wish.

 

[5030]

YT and other social media sites are all about money and nothing more in reality.

I do watch other video's and subscribe to none of them/ I always get a kick out of watching what the camera 'sees' that they don't see.

 

[5030]

For me, strictly entertainment and not much more in reality. Just a diversion from the mundane and a time killer like today, when it's raining out.

Getting back to the bar oil thing, like I stated earlier on, I use the 2 finger test with bar oil and so far, the cheap Menards brand is just fine.

I would NEVER use used motor oil in any saw to lubricate the bar, cancer causing or not regardless. I prefer using used motor oil in my waste oil furnace or as an accelerant to start my scrap wood fires.

Today, just breathing can cause cancer or so I'm told.

 

[CliffordK]

One thing for certain, he needs to scrap the 'Farmabago' and get a real motor home. He can afford it.

I'm trying to remember which videos it was used in. I think he was pulling it around the field with winches. Not necessarily something to do with your million dollar Marathon Coach. Oops, I managed to damage the bumper!!!

He also has pushed vehicles off of jack stands. Perhaps a good test for your new pickup or SUV, but I'd probably choose one that wasn't worth $100K.