4707

[gatorguy7]

Great thread! Thank y'all for sharing so much info. We are working on a deal on a 4710 open station. It would be nice to go without DEF by getting a 4707 instead but we need 100hp.

 

[Str8 6]

Guys, I read the Facebook post about cleaning the grounds on the global series tractors and I can't recall the guys name but he is correct in urging us to do it. My cab ground at the back was loose and the bolt threads stripped and where that same cable connects to the chassis at the axle housing was just bolted down loosely on top of the paint. You all need to remove these and clean them to bare metal and reinstall them tight. If you find one with a star washer under it remove it and toss it in the garbage. That H code I was having pop up from time to time during pto operation was fixed by this.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

d the Facebook post about cleaning the grounds on the global series tractors

Is there some facebook group I should be looking at for info about these tractors?

 

[Str8 6]

There's a Facebook page for 4700 global series tractors. I can't link to it using my phone due to my poor past life choices where I'm not supposed to have a Facebook account. Just search for it and it should come up. They will have to grant you access after you request it because it's private. Lots of good info over there. Lots of good pictures of these tractors working.

 

[goridedoo]

Hooked my Deere MX10 rotary cutter to my 4707 on Thursday. Kicked the pto on at like 1300rpm, killed the tractor. Rev’d it up some more, kicked it on, tractor made a bunch of racket under the cab, threw a code, and kicked the pto off. Called the dealer, they came and got the tractor (90 miles for them) within 24hrs.

They say the mower is just too big for the tractor. Deere recommends minimum 60 pto hp for the lift type mower that I have. 40 pto hp for a pull type. I have a hard time believing that the tractor can’t even spin that mower with no load. I didn’t figure it would be ideal, but thought it would work OK for mowing approaches, and Ran it on a 3020 gasser for years with no issues.

Dealer is doing a good job of taking care of me… but this one has me scratching my head a little.

Update- a friend had an OLD 6ft bush hog in the weeds. Put that on, works good. PTO does engage pretty violently. Occasionally sheers the pin on the bush hog driveline during engagement. Need to find 7ft so I’m atleast as wide as the tractor.

Still hate the grabby clutch. Seems worse when in the fast side of the dyna 2.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

Still hate the grabby clutch. Seems worse when in the fast side of the dyna 2.

did you do the clutch adjustment procedure? It's in the manual on pa- just kidding - massey doesn't mention it at all. Some random guy posted the procedure on youtube it helped me a lot with more precision movement.

he starts the adjustment instructions at 3:10 roughly.

 

[goridedoo]

Add high operating temps and terrible AC to the list of things I hate about this tractor. Its not even 75 degrees out, cmon.

 

[Paystar]

Add high operating temps and terrible AC to the list of things I hate about this tractor. Its not even 75 degrees out, cmon.

That's the trade off. You either go DPF and regens, or no no regens, mass EGR and they need higher temps to work.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

What temps are you guys seeing and what should I be expecting? I was running it what I would consider pretty hard tearing up virgin ground with a 4 bottom and I think I was hitting like 160F

 

[Wobblin-Goblin]

Add high operating temps and terrible AC to the list of things I hate about this tractor. Its not even 75 degrees out, cmon.

Yes, the temps do run fairly high, but my A/C is pretty decent and I have no complaints with it.

 

[goridedoo]

What temps are you guys seeing and what should I be expecting? I was running it what I would consider pretty hard tearing up virgin ground with a 4 bottom and I think I was hitting like 160F

I got my 10ft rotary cutter going with some help from the guys on the 4700 Series facebook group. Temp on the dash was showing 165-180, not sure what that is measuring.

It doesnt take long to heat up to one bar or so from the red running about 3mph in fairly dense CRP. Mow for 5 minutes... cool down for 5 minutes. Cooling package clean, outside temps in the 70s.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

I got my 10ft rotary cutter going with some help from the guys on the 4700 Series facebook group. Temp on the dash was showing 165-180, not sure what that is measuring.

It doesnt take long to heat up to one bar or so from the red running about 3mph in fairly dense CRP. Mow for 5 minutes... cool down for 5 minutes. Cooling package clean, outside temps in the 70s.

If I had a tractor that I had to let cool down for 5 minutes after I worked it a little I would be looking for something else, surely there has to be something wrong, a farm tractor should be good to work all day even in the hottest environments.

 

[goridedoo]

If I had a tractor that I had to let cool down for 5 minutes after I worked it a little I would be looking for something else, surely there has to be something wrong, a farm tractor should be good to work all day even in the hottest environments.

Yeah, agree 100%. I’m going to mess with it some more, see if I can’t find a solution. At this point I’ve had enough of the tractor, I will be getting rid of it as soon as I can afford an upgrade.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

Rev’d it up some more, kicked it on, tractor made a bunch of racket under the cab, threw a code, and kicked the pto off.

I've had this happen a few times when using my brush cutter. In the moment I was just too eager to get started that I didn't bother to look it up. Does anyone know what this code means and if I'm doing it wrong?

for reference I was rev'ing up the engine to 1900 or so and engaging the PTO, it happens more frequently if it's the first time I'm engaging the pto for the day.

I'll have to keep a closer eye on the temps next summer when it's hotter. I don't remember the temps I got while bush hogging this summer.

 

[Seven Gables]

Never engage pto at high engine rpm

 

[goridedoo]

I've had this happen a few times when using my brush cutter. In the moment I was just too eager to get started that I didn't bother to look it up. Does anyone know what this code means and if I'm doing it wrong?

for reference I was rev'ing up the engine to 1900 or so and engaging the PTO, it happens more frequently if it's the first time I'm engaging the pto for the day.

I'll have to keep a closer eye on the temps next summer when it's hotter. I don't remember the temps I got while bush hogging this summer.

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My MX10 will kill the tractor at idle (surprised me, I can turn the cutter by hand easily). I run 1200-1400 RPM, engage for just a second to get it moving, disengage and re-engage. Works well, hopefully not hard on anything.

I ordered a TDI Tuning box to try out for now.

Gonna keep trying to recalibrate the clutch, some guys say theirs is buttery smooth.

 

[EddieWalker]

I start my 12 foot batwing at idle with my 4707. I have the A button set for 1,970 RPMs, and once the batwing is spinning, I push the A button and it revs up to 1,970

 

[daugen]

I had my A button set on 1300 rpm, which seemed when more torque came in, and never had an issue with pto.
Start it up, wait fifteen seconds, push the button and "full power" at least for hydraulics came on.
Pto came on at 1300 rpm. No hesitation on 8 foot bush hog, granted tractor could handle bigger mowers.

I set the pto by the dash indicator showing about 520-540 rpm
never had overheating problems either in hot NC

 

[goridedoo]

My MX10 will kill the tractor at idle (surprised me, I can turn the cutter by hand easily). I run 1200-1400 RPM, engage for just a second to get it moving, disengage and re-engage. Works well, hopefully not hard on anything.

I ordered a TDI Tuning box to try out for now.

Gonna keep trying to recalibrate the clutch, some guys say theirs is buttery smooth.

Got the TDI box today, installed and tried it out for about 20 minutes. Tractor feels a little stronger.

I don't know if it was a coincidence but the clutch was buttery smooth.

 

[Str8 6]

I run a 12' batwing cutter and it's all my 4710 wants to do to start the thing spinning. You'll never convince me these tractors have a soft start feature on the PTO or that it works if it does have one.
My coolant Temps never get over the last hash mark to the left of half way on the dash gauge.
The temp displayed on the LCD middle screen is trans oil temp. Mine heats up slowly and on a hot 100 plus degree day levels off around 165 to 170 degrees while running the bush hog.