4707 3 Point adjustment issues

[EddieWalker]

I don't think so. in the picture, the part that connects to the lift arm is bent. This bend limits how far the arm will go together once the threads are screwed all the way in.

I'm heading to the store now to get some new new Category 1 lift arm pins. The current ones on my rotary cutter do not have enough room to fit the Category 2 lift arms on the 4707. I already have the adapter shims, but the opening in the arms are 1 3/4 inches wide and my current pins are 1 3/8's inches wide, so when I try to connect it, I can't get the locking pins into the holes.

This is what I'm looking for. Hopefully one of the Tractor stores have them in stock.

Amazon.com: Speeco Lift Arm Pin Category 1 7/8 " X 6-1/2 " Bulk : Patio, Lawn & Garden

Amazon.com: Speeco Lift Arm Pin Category 1 7/8 " X 6-1/2 " Bulk : Patio, Lawn & Garden

www.amazon.com

Once I get the new pins, I'll see if I have any issues hooking it up.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

Apologies for being MIA the last 2 days. I think I am caught up.

Something isn't right with the set up of this tractor, it should easily be capable of using cat 1 and cat 2 implements.

No. The tractor is purely a category 2 - 3 point hitch. Category 1 implements do not fit on this tractor by default.

I too would be concerned about an implement flopping around.

But I'm with you that it sounds like a bad solution.

I would definitely want 2 stabilizer bars when operating that Bauma.

Make them solve the compatibility issue.

I don’t think I would like that setup. I would be looking for another option.

I think the opinions here have pushed me over the edge. I am going to return it. It's horseshit that it's listed as a category 2 implement and they want me to operate it with one stabilizer out. They need to redesign this so it fits category 2 by default. Not this category 1/2 hybrid stuff.

 

[K5lwq]

Apologies for being MIA the last 2 days. I think I am caught up.



No. The tractor is purely a category 2 - 3 point hitch. Category 1 implements do not fit on this tractor by default.











I think the opinions here have pushed me over the edge. I am going to return it. It's horseshit that it's listed as a category 2 implement and they want me to operate it with one stabilizer out. They need to redesign this so it fits category 2 by default. Not this category 1/2 hybrid stuff.

I do not blame you but I still would have issues with the way the stabilizers are designed. There may be times in the future you might want to hook to another implement that is out of spec.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

There may be times in the future you might want to hook to another implement that is out of spec.

god I hope not. Is it so hard to just make implements to spec? The arms get plenty narrow to fit any cat 2 implement that's correctly made, I'm not sure what Ill do if I want to use a cat 1 implement.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

2605 brochure

4707 brochure

CP572 brochure

@Cahaba Valley Farm would be proud of how convoluted hooking up 1 implement can be. Par for the course I suppose when it comes to tractors and tractor related stuff.

 

[Raul-02]

unfortunately it isn't the style with multiple holes you can pick from.

That beggers the imagination. I have to assume that you spent some time searching for more holes. Got a friend with a drill press or a miller you can install new holes located to your liking.

 

[MinnesotaMorg]

I have to assume that you spent some time searching for more holes. Got a friend with a drill press or a miller you can install new holes located to your liking.

I don't know for certain, but I imagine that the stabilizer arms that have multiple holes is for a purpose. That purpose is likely because the hitch is compatible with cat 1 and cat 2, thus the need for such a wide adjustment depending on what category you are using. There isn't any problem with my stabilizers, or the hitch in general. The problem lies with companies making new equipment not to spec.

I know these suggestions are in good faith just trying to help, but I think at this point the implement has been identified as the problem and I am having it returned. I'll be sure to keep this thread updated, I did suggest to them over email that they change the design to follow ASAE category 2 spec, and they were initially a bit dismissive.

 

[JWR]

Ya I see that now , what about where the bracket that holds that end of the sway bar, is it attached to the axel by bolts and could in be moved inboard more to allow the sway bar to move the lower link arm further in. ? Something isn't right with the set up of this tractor, it should easily be capable of using cat 1 and cat 2 implements.

Well probably so, but the culprit is the implement which CLAIMS to be a Cat II device and is not. A manufacturing, engineering, marketing or specification defect. Probably all of the above. As stated in post #67 "The problem lies with companies making new equipment not to spec."

 

[Raul-02]

There isn't any problem with my stabilizers, or the hitch in general. The problem lies with companies making new equipment not to spec.

There is no spec, no standard. There are hopeful ideas about standards but there is no standard. The industry generally has embraced ideas about diametrical standards but even that is mostly serendipity. It's just dumb luck that they are fractionals

 

[WranglerX]

A question I did not see a answer to is what is diameter of pins supplied with cutter....