HST power needed for 72" blower?

[dj1701]

I have a JD 4320.

Tractor data says 48.1 gross HP and 40 at the PTO. Runs my frontier 74" blower without issue.

 

[aesmith]

That's a nice rig. Are they industrial tyres, how do you find them for grip in snow?

 

[sd455dan]

Jinma does not list their power take off horsepower either.

It is going to come down to how much you can afford to
spend for a new 4 wheel drive mule and snow blower and
whether you want a front mount snow blower or a rear
mount snow blower.

A john deere series 2 or series 3 4-wheel drive tractor with
loaded rear R1 ag tires and rear chains would be needed
with your heavy wet snows.

A kubota B30-30 with loaded rears, chains and a 6 foot rear mounted
snow blower like the pronovost P720TRC with the rotating
impeller drum that bypasses the chute and spout to quickly
clear heavy ice and snow.

Some of the older china tractors were actually under rated on HP.

I run a 84" blower with a 27" Impeller on the 55 HP Rhino.
The power number is based on continuous output for 12 hours. I think 40 HP on a new tier 4 with a hydro is a good ball park as a minimum. 45 HP would be better. Large displacement engines running lower RPM to hit 540 PTO speeds seem to have an easier time with tillers and blowers. but jmo.

Definitely look at Both advertised HP but especially PTO rating. Some of these new Hydro tractors have big drops in what gets to the PTO forget the model but there is a newer Massey CUT that takes a huge drop on th.e HP to the PTO.

 

[leonz]

As you are in Scotland, I would rather see you invest in a Massey Ferguson 175 diesel tractor as I am sure there are
plenty of them in good used condition.

The Massey Ferguson 175 like its siblings uses a hydraulic shuttle shift manual transmission with low gearing that is
excellent for snow using both a loader and rear snow blower for snow clearing due to gear driven power take off which
operates at 540 RPM.

 

[aesmith]

Not really keen on anything without four wheel drive. And after five years or so using a geared tractor, I really am set on HST.

Massey Ferguson 175 is too wide and too powerful for the snowblower anyway, it's 72" wide and rated for 40hp max. From tractordata it's too fast as well, lowest gear is twice the speed of our current tractor.

 

[sd455dan]

Not really keen on anything without four wheel drive. And after five years or so using a geared tractor, I really am set on HST.

Massey Ferguson 175 is too wide and too powerful for the snowblower anyway, it's 72" wide and rated for 40hp max. From tractordata it's too fast as well, lowest gear is twice the speed of our current tractor.

With a manual trans, that is a huge deal. If you don't have a low enough gear it would be a real hassle. Also Agreed buy MFWD for blower use.

 

[leonz]

I guess a new kubota B3030 with snow tires or John Deere series 2 mule with snow tires are a basic option.

You could trade in the siroma and the snow blower for a B30-30 and buy a pronovost 72 inch trx snow blower
with the rotating impeller drum that allows you to bypass the chute and spout discharging left or right to get
rid of the heavy wet snows.

A 4wd BX2380 with a front snow thrower and V bar chains would be smaller and power hungry.

A Massey Ferguson 175 with loaded tires, grader chains and paired with an Pronovost 84" TRX snow blower
would do it without breaking a sweat.

 

[zrtext]

I'm looking for a hydrostatic drive tractor. The most demanding job will be the 72" snowblower. I'm currently using a geared tractor, a Siromer 304 which I believe is the same as a Jinma 254. This occasionally runs out of power. Ideally I'd like the new tractor have at least as much power, but I can't seem to get a straight answer about what PTO power the Siromer actually would be putting out.

So I thought I'd turn it round, what sort of power would people want/need for a 72" blower? There are lots of 25 or 26HP tractors around, but a whole lot less choice in higher power.

Aessmith
I run a 74" front mount on my Caseih Farmall 55c Tractor is about 45hp pto. Runs off the mid pto which is 1100 rpm. Unit does a fairly good job but there are times like today it has its hands full. The hydro by far is the best for blowing snow and gives much more traction than a gear tractor which I have also. I have a hydraulic dipper also i built which really helps in the windy areas.

 

[aesmith]

A Massey Ferguson 175 with loaded tires, grader chains and paired with an Pronovost 84" TRX snow blower
would do it without breaking a sweat.

Not my rig or my property but this video from 01:30 on shows what I have to do with my geared tractor. Keep dipping and re-engaging the clutch when the snow's too much for my fixed speed.

It feels like abusing the clutch to do this at full revs so really the drill should be .. dip clutch / wait till blower is clear enough / drop revs right down / engage clutch at low revs / spool up to full speed. Repeat a million times.

 

[leonz]

I guess that leaves you with the JD series 3 or Kubota B6060 using
a Zuidberg rear to front power take off kit for a Pronovost TRX 84
inch snow blower with the rotating impeller drum or your existing
snow blower.

Using the Zuidberg rear to front PTO system eliminates using the more hungry
mid PTO systems that are energy hogs and lets you keep your current snow blower
or upgrade to a 7 foot Pronovost TRX with 3 pairs of remotes on the mule off the
rear to control the impeller drum rotation, chute rotation and spout control.

 

[aesmith]

I guess that leaves you with the JD series 3 or Kubota B6060

I can't find any detail on a Kubota B6060. In Kubota I've seen STV40 and various L models. I think I'd be happy with any Kubota of 40 to 45hp, so long as it's HST and not physically too big.

JD 3720 comes up, about the right HP. I'm not so taken with the smaller engine with turbo.

I don't rule out other brands, it's just that Kubota and JD seem to come up most often.

 

[leonz]

Sorry, I ment the kubota L6060 model.

 

[RjCorazza]

I can't find any detail on a Kubota B6060. In Kubota I've seen STV40 and various L models. I think I'd be happy with any Kubota of 40 to 45hp, so long as it's HST and not physically too big.

JD 3720 comes up, about the right HP. I'm not so taken with the smaller engine with turbo.

I don't rule out other brands, it's just that Kubota and JD seem to come up most often.

I have been very satisfied with my Kubota L4060 of 10 years and 1300 hours. I think they're still available in the supply chain, but are replaced by the L70 series, which are very similar, with a few new bells and whistles.

 

[Cycledude]

My LS XR4155 HST seems to have no problem running rear mounted 72 inch Meteor snow blower, my opinion hydrostatic and 4wd is the way to go. Where I use the blower is mostly relatively flat ground so I don’t need tire chains.

 

[leonz]

Where he lives, he needs horsepower, adhesion weight for traction, torque, chains, loaded rears and a
snow blower that can bypass the chute and spout to prevent clogging because of heavy wet snow.

 

[zrtext]

I guess that leaves you with the JD series 3 or Kubota B6060 using
a Zuidberg rear to front power take off kit for a Pronovost TRX 84
inch snow blower with the rotating impeller drum or your existing
snow blower.

Using the Zuidberg rear to front PTO system eliminates using the more hungry
mid PTO systems that are energy hogs and lets you keep your current snow blower
or upgrade to a 7 foot Pronovost TRX with 3 pairs of remotes on the mule off the
rear to control the impeller drum rotation, chute rotation and spout control.

I would like to say the mid pto is the same as the 540 pto for power requirements as the blower runs the same speed of rotation the 540 blower is direct and the 1100 pto runs through a 1 to 2 gear reduction first. I've ran them both ways and have seen no difference. Just my backyard observation is all.

 

[aesmith]

I'm going to be running the blower on the back. Too much complication involved in front mounting. And I like the idea of having the loader available when I'm clearing.

 

[sd455dan]

I'm going to be running the blower on the back. Too much complication involved in front mounting. And I like the idea of having the loader available when I'm clearing.

Have you considered an inverted hybrid snow blower?

 

[aesmith]

Have you considered an inverted hybrid snow blower?

I'm not sure what that means, but for almost all our work a pull blower wouldn't suit.

 

[hayden]

Sorry, I ment the kubota L6060 model.

And the equivalent Deere compact would be the 4 series, not the 3 series.