Filling tires with ballast at home.

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Here's another example of filling tires with liquid ballast at home. I wanted to do this at home mostly because taking the tractor (or even just the wheels) to a shop to have them fill them is expensive and time consuming. Spoiler alert - I was able to fill them at home in about 3 hrs which is less than my drive time to the closest tire dealer.

First was the selection of the ballast liquid. I considered three alternatives, all of which cost about the same $$/lb for the material:

- Beet juice, which I have in my other tractor. But it's just too messy, and I couldn't find a source to buy it for home installation. It's a little heavier per gal, so more total weight, but not enough to overcome the down sides.

- Windshield washer fluid: In small quantities, this is inexpensive ($1/gal),But buying 165 gal jugs is just not practical. In 55 gal drums the cost is more like $4 per gal, the same at beet juice or RV antifreeze. Also, windshield washer fluid is toxic, and I really want something that is non toxic. Weight is the same as water.

- RV antifreeze: Weight is the same as water, and it's non toxic, so this worked the best for me. I bought 3 55 gal drums from NAPA in a fall sale.

Next is the pump/transfer setup. I started with one of the readily available adapters to connect a garden hose to a tire valve. But after that I did things a bit differently. I didn't want to use the little push button valve on the adapter to bleed out air because some amount of liquid would also come out and make a mess. I also wanted to be able to monitor the pressure in the tire so I'd know when to stop pumping and let some air out. The result was this assembly of hose fittings. The branch and hose that goes to the tire adapter is also connected to the pressure gauge to monitor tire pressure. Then there are two hose connections with valves. One is liquid coming from the pump, and the other is a drain back to the drum. To fill, you close the drain valve and open the pump valve. Then after 10-15 minutes, close the pump valve and open the drain valve. That lets the air our of the tire, and any fluid pushed out just goes right back into the drum.


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This also allowed the connection to the tire to just be a single hose so there isn't a lot of weight hanging off the valve. It also moves all the controls for filling and bleeding to a comfortable location rather than crammed between the wheel and rear end of the tractor.

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For a suction pickup in the drum, I cobbled together a piece of copper tube and fittings to a hose that connects to the pump.

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Then it was just a matter of sitting around while running the pump, and pausing to occasionally bleed out the air.

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You also need to jack up the tractor to take the weight of the machine, then let all the air out of the tire. Then fill it, and top off with air to the final operating pressure. I put 82.5 gal in each tire, which is 680 lbs per wheel. Total time about 3 hrs.

Other than the tire valve adapter, I had all this stuff lying around, so my cost was just the cost of the antifreeze, and my time.
 
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Can you supply a picture of the pump's nameplate? Is it self priming?
 
/ Filling tires with ballast at home. #4  
Your same setup would have worked well with any liquid ballast.
 
/ Filling tires with ballast at home. #5  
Way back when I was employed at local JD dealership I filled many rear tires with nothing but the adapter & a similar hose shown in photo below. One needs to turn water off every once in a while to bleed off accumulated air pressure then continue filling with water until tire is 75% full.
 

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Just thinking. There wouldn't be any problem with two valve stems per wheel with tubeless tires. They could be spaced so one of them is at 6:00 for injecting liquid and the other where the liquid would spurt out when the tire is filled to the proper level. No stopping for the tire to fart.

Close the top one first, then rotate the tire to get the "fill" stem up, remove the fill hose and close it.
 
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Your plumbing is overly complex. I have a cheap pump like that hooked directly to the tire adapter. Just pump for a bit then let the pressure out.
Yes, the tire valve even has an air purge button. I just didn't want the inevitable fluid that gets spit back out getting all over everything. That's why I added the drain line back to the drum.
 
/ Filling tires with ballast at home. #10  
Heck, I just used a Drill Pump with -30 WW Fluid, a little bit of RV Antifreeze, and Multi Seal Hydro. Drill Pump handled the Multi Seal just fine. The WWF I bought a pallet of on clearance from Menards.


I used a drill pump for the B7500, had the dealer fill the L3200 that I bought new, and the L4240 (used) already had the tires filled.
 
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Living in the desert, freezing is not a big issue. It does get below 32, but it warms up during the day to above freezing. No issues for 20 years. I did add a couple of gallons of RV antifreeze to each tire as a little buffer for the colder days, and since water could cause rust in the wheel, I added 2 cans of auto water pump lube in each tire as it minimizes rust in the system and doesn’t hurt rubber.
 
/ Filling tires with ballast at home. #12  
Thanks for the post - always interested to see how folks accomplish this task. Tractor owners have discussed/debated/argued/fought over what to use for rear wheel ballast for many years now. Rather than stoke those fires, I thought I would use the latest version of ChatGPT (AI), and I asked this question:

"How does using RimGuard compare to using RV antifreeze or windshield washer and water combinations?" It only took seconds before I got this response:

Great question — lots of tractor owners debate RimGuard (beet juice) versus RV antifreeze and windshield washer fluid/water mixes. Each has different long-range implications for weight, freeze protection, safety, cost, and maintenance. Here’s a side-by-side breakdown:

1. Weight (Ballast Value)

RimGuard (beet juice): ~10.7–11.0 lb/gal. Heavier than water, washer fluid, or RV antifreeze, so you get more weight in the same tire volume.

RV Antifreeze (propylene glycol): ~8.3–8.6 lb/gal (similar to water). Much lighter than RimGuard, so you’d need larger tires or more volume to get equivalent weight.

Windshield washer fluid + water: ~7.6–8.0 lb/gal depending on mix. Also lighter, similar to RV antifreeze.

👉 If maximum ballast is your priority, RimGuard wins hands-down.

2. Freeze Protection

RimGuard: Good to about -35°F (manufacturer spec). Works in most U.S./Canada climates.

RV Antifreeze: Usually protects to about -20°F to -50°F, depending on concentration. Very reliable for cold weather.

Washer fluid: Cheap blue washer fluid is generally good to -20°F, some premium types to -25°F. Mixed with water, protection drops proportionally.

👉 In very cold climates (northern tier), RV antifreeze is safest, though RimGuard usually holds up fine unless you’re in Arctic temps.

3. Corrosion & Rim Life

RimGuard: Non-corrosive. Doesn’t attack rims like calcium chloride.

RV Antifreeze: Non-corrosive. Safe for rims and rubber.

Washer fluid: Usually non-corrosive (mostly water + methanol + dye). Generally safe, though cheaper formulations may have additives that are harsher on rubber long-term.

👉 All three are better than calcium chloride. RimGuard and RV antifreeze are most rim-friendly.

4. Safety / Environmental Impact

RimGuard: Non-toxic, biodegradable, safe for livestock, pets, crops. A spill is a sticky mess, but not poisonous.

RV Antifreeze: Propylene glycol is considered “low toxicity,” but not something you’d want in soil or near livestock in quantity.

Washer fluid: Contains methanol, which is toxic to pets, livestock, and people. A leak or spill in a pasture or near animals could be risky.

👉 For farms with animals or kids around, RimGuard is by far the safest.

5. Cost & Availability

RimGuard: Usually $3–4 per gallon installed at a dealer. You pay for the product + service. Not DIY-friendly unless you have the pump setup.

RV Antifreeze: $2–3/gal retail (cheaper in bulk, especially off-season). DIY-friendly.

Washer fluid: Cheapest option, sometimes <$2/gal at big box stores. Easy DIY fill.

👉 Washer fluid is cheapest, but RimGuard costs more because of its weight advantage and environmental safety.

6. Practical Maintenance / Long-Range Issues

RimGuard:

Heavy → more stress on axles/bearings (true for any ballast).

Can be messy if you ever have to drain it.

Valve stems need to be liquid-rated to avoid clogging/leaks.

RV Antifreeze:

Light → may not provide enough counterweight for loader work.

Easy to top off or replace if a tube fails.

Washer fluid:

Lightest ballast, so often insufficient for heavy work.

Toxicity risk if a tube leaks into a barnyard or field.

Methanol can evaporate slowly through rubber tubes over years, reducing freeze protection.

Bottom Line

If you want maximum weight, long-term rim protection, and farm-safe environmental qualities → RimGuard is best (but higher cost, dealer install).

If you want a cheap, DIY, decent freeze-proof fill and don’t need maximum weight → RV antifreeze is a safer choice than washer fluid.

If you just want something quick and inexpensive, and you don’t have animals around → windshield washer fluid works, but it’s light and carries a toxicity risk.

👉 A good rule of thumb:

Heavy loader work / hilly terrain / livestock nearby → RimGuard.

Moderate work / DIY budget-conscious → RV antifreeze.

Light duty / cheapest option → washer fluid.
 
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what's wrong with water?? now I'm in Australia before you shout dumb question
 
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what's wrong with water?? now I'm in Australia before you shout dumb question
Nothing at all. Best choice, as long as freeze protection isn't required.
 
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Thanks for the post - always interested to see how folks accomplish this task. Tractor owners have discussed/debated/argued/fought over what to use for rear wheel ballast for many years now. Rather than stoke those fires, I thought I would use the latest version of ChatGPT (AI), and I asked this question:

"How does using RimGuard compare to using RV antifreeze or windshield washer and water combinations?" It only took seconds before I got this response:

Great question — lots of tractor owners debate RimGuard (beet juice) versus RV antifreeze and windshield washer fluid/water mixes. Each has different long-range implications for weight, freeze protection, safety, cost, and maintenance. Here’s a side-by-side breakdown:

1. Weight (Ballast Value)

RimGuard (beet juice): ~10.7–11.0 lb/gal. Heavier than water, washer fluid, or RV antifreeze, so you get more weight in the same tire volume.

RV Antifreeze (propylene glycol): ~8.3–8.6 lb/gal (similar to water). Much lighter than RimGuard, so you’d need larger tires or more volume to get equivalent weight.

Windshield washer fluid + water: ~7.6–8.0 lb/gal depending on mix. Also lighter, similar to RV antifreeze.

👉 If maximum ballast is your priority, RimGuard wins hands-down.

2. Freeze Protection

RimGuard: Good to about -35°F (manufacturer spec). Works in most U.S./Canada climates.

RV Antifreeze: Usually protects to about -20°F to -50°F, depending on concentration. Very reliable for cold weather.

Washer fluid: Cheap blue washer fluid is generally good to -20°F, some premium types to -25°F. Mixed with water, protection drops proportionally.

👉 In very cold climates (northern tier), RV antifreeze is safest, though RimGuard usually holds up fine unless you’re in Arctic temps.

3. Corrosion & Rim Life

RimGuard: Non-corrosive. Doesn’t attack rims like calcium chloride.

RV Antifreeze: Non-corrosive. Safe for rims and rubber.

Washer fluid: Usually non-corrosive (mostly water + methanol + dye). Generally safe, though cheaper formulations may have additives that are harsher on rubber long-term.

👉 All three are better than calcium chloride. RimGuard and RV antifreeze are most rim-friendly.

4. Safety / Environmental Impact

RimGuard: Non-toxic, biodegradable, safe for livestock, pets, crops. A spill is a sticky mess, but not poisonous.

RV Antifreeze: Propylene glycol is considered “low toxicity,” but not something you’d want in soil or near livestock in quantity.

Washer fluid: Contains methanol, which is toxic to pets, livestock, and people. A leak or spill in a pasture or near animals could be risky.

👉 For farms with animals or kids around, RimGuard is by far the safest.

5. Cost & Availability

RimGuard: Usually $3–4 per gallon installed at a dealer. You pay for the product + service. Not DIY-friendly unless you have the pump setup.

RV Antifreeze: $2–3/gal retail (cheaper in bulk, especially off-season). DIY-friendly.

Washer fluid: Cheapest option, sometimes <$2/gal at big box stores. Easy DIY fill.

👉 Washer fluid is cheapest, but RimGuard costs more because of its weight advantage and environmental safety.

6. Practical Maintenance / Long-Range Issues

RimGuard:

Heavy → more stress on axles/bearings (true for any ballast).

Can be messy if you ever have to drain it.

Valve stems need to be liquid-rated to avoid clogging/leaks.

RV Antifreeze:

Light → may not provide enough counterweight for loader work.

Easy to top off or replace if a tube fails.

Washer fluid:

Lightest ballast, so often insufficient for heavy work.

Toxicity risk if a tube leaks into a barnyard or field.

Methanol can evaporate slowly through rubber tubes over years, reducing freeze protection.

Bottom Line

If you want maximum weight, long-term rim protection, and farm-safe environmental qualities → RimGuard is best (but higher cost, dealer install).

If you want a cheap, DIY, decent freeze-proof fill and don’t need maximum weight → RV antifreeze is a safer choice than washer fluid.

If you just want something quick and inexpensive, and you don’t have animals around → windshield washer fluid works, but it’s light and carries a toxicity risk.

👉 A good rule of thumb:

Heavy loader work / hilly terrain / livestock nearby → RimGuard.

Moderate work / DIY budget-conscious → RV antifreeze.

Light duty / cheapest option → washer fluid.

Interestingly, this doesn't flag the issue with RV Antifreeze, which is that it becomes solid, or semi-solid at around 5F despite the "protection to -50F" headline. "Protection to -50F" is because it doesn't expand, even though it does become solid, and hence unsuitable as ballast. Also, the text presumes that RV Antifreeze is prop glycol based, and from what I have seen, few are. Most seem to be a combination of ethanol, glycerol, and propanol.

It also says that RimGuard is not DIY friendly because it requires a pump. Well, all of them require a pump. RimGuard isn't DIY friendly because you can't buy it for self-install.

So AI is just like any other source of info - partially correct, partially incorrect, and you need to figure out which parts or correct and which are not.

I remember a popular line from the early days of computing: "To err is human. To really foul things up requires a computer" It's never been more true.
 
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Does ballast affect the handling of the tractor?
Yes. Better stability, obviously, but also a rougher ride with much less compressible air volume remaining in tire. All of these liquids are non-compressible, from the practical standpoint of tire pressures.
 
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How much did the antifreeze cost you?

I bought the little valve years ago and just never got around to filling them. It is something I still want to do. I am in southeast Tennessee and we rarely get temps below freezing for days on end, but it does happen. I think I could get away with a mix of water and some type of antifreeze. Interested to hear some of the responses as it has been a while since I have looked into this.
 
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Thanks everyone. I need to do this with my JD 2038R. I wonder how many gallons needed? An AI bot says about 35 gallons per tire. It has ag tires -- need real tires in the dirt and moving around in the foothills.
 
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AI is just an automated web search robot that doesn't know if its right or wrong.

Question... how do you know when you are at the level you want?
 

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