Brand new KIOTI dead on arrival

/ Brand new KIOTI dead on arrival
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Those posts are not me, matter of fact I'm not as frustrated with the dealer as half the commenters seem to be. Lawyers are too expensive and lemon laws don't apply to tractors. Obviously KIOTI has alot of good units out there. I didn't get one (so far). Just wanted some "what would you do" advise and if anyone had ran into similar issues. Got my tractor back today and have serious doubts it's fixed. Should know in a few hours of use like last time.
 
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Enjoy your tractor, never mind the nay sayers and have fun..
 
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Not me, matter of fact I'm not as frustrated with the dealer as half the commenters seem to be. Lawyers are too expensive and lemon laws don't apply to tractors. Obviously KIOTI has alot of good units out there. I didn't get one (so far). Just wanted some "what would you do" advise and if anyone had ran into similar issues. Got my tractor back today and have serious doubts it's fixed. Should know in a few hours of use like last time.
Catch your breath and give your tractor/dealer a chance.Life is to short to be pi$$ed off at this point.;) Please keep us posted of the final outcome..
 
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/ Brand new KIOTI dead on arrival #164  
I can understand why you are upset. Although I have not been in a situation like this personally I’m sure I would be equally frustrated, perhaps even more, especially since dealing with a tractor that is brand new. And for which you have laid out a good amount of cash.

I would caution against going the adversarial route too quickly. At some point you may have no choice, but in my experience trying to remain cooperative as long as possible often times pays dividends. Sometimes you actually do catch a lot more bears with honey than you do with bear traps. Hopefully your situation can be resolved to your satisfaction with out the dealer and you becoming adversaries. A positive relationship would be beneficial to both of you as time goes on.

Maybe ask the dealer some specific questions and hopefully get a commitment. Exactly why can’t this be addressed in a timely fashion? When can I expect my tractor problem to be addressed? How do you plan to address this given this is a brand new tractor? If you can’t address this in a timely fashion can you suggest something that may help me? Free rental? etc,etc.

Unfortunately you may be forced into the adversarial route at some point in time. Hopefully not, but never take that route off the table.

Good Luck!
I agree. Once you go the adversarial route there is no turning back.
 
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Those posts are not me, matter of fact I'm not as frustrated with the dealer as half the commenters seem to be. Lawyers are too expensive and lemon laws don't apply to tractors. Obviously KIOTI has alot of good units out there. I didn't get one (so far). Just wanted some "what would you do" advise and if anyone had ran into similar issues. Got my tractor back today and have serious doubts it's fixed. Should know in a few hours of use like last time.
Glad its working fine, and Kudos to your dealer and corporate Kioti for getting you back to running faster than i expected during this pandemic.

Just be cautious of those little critters called mice. Their small and can cause havoc to any tractors electrical system when they start chewing on wires.
 
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Keep track of everything meticulously, you could have a lemon law case and demand a new tractor. Makes me gladder that I paid more for a Kubota hearing this though, thanks
O spare me.
I have been on this site a long time and I have read about issues on new tractors from every manufacturer, including Kubota ( example the B3350 regen issues, the Grand L rear main seal leaks a few years back, Etc.)
Kubota makes a good machine, but they have their occasional issue too.
I have owned my Kioti DK 35 for 20 years ( 2352 hours) , number of times its been back to the dealer = 0
 
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In a joking mood. "if it has **** or wheels, sooner or later you are going to have trouble with it". All tractors can have issues. And that goes for anything else mechanical or electrical. I was in the business of diagnosing and repairing some of the finest telephone equipment in the world, and believe me, even the best in the world have issues. That is why they sent me to service calls on them for over 20 years.
 
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I hope you know what you mean...... I sure as heII don’t
 
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I hear you on the dtc’s man! I was actually surprised to see a generic shaped obd port under my dash. But there’s no industry standards yet, like we have for automobiles. We need to find a dealership mole to leak them for us or something.
You need to get on the right to repair push. Tractors, cell phones etc. do not have right to repair legislation in place like the autos do. If you do some searching on problems with farmers trying to get simple repairs done on their own, you will be amazed at the problems they run into on equipment that costs hundreds of thousands. Simple things like changing a sensor will require a scan tool or laptop to reset the check light and allow the equipment to function.
 
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You need to get on the right to repair push. Tractors, cell phones etc. do not have right to repair legislation in place like the autos do. If you do some searching on problems with farmers trying to get simple repairs done on their own, you will be amazed at the problems they run into on equipment that costs hundreds of thousands. Simple things like changing a sensor will require a scan tool or laptop to reset the check light and allow the equipment to function.
Yep, for sure. I work in the auto industry and follow the issue closely. I would never buy a new John Deere after all the crap they have pulled recently.
 
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I miss the good old days. ☮️✌🏻
Me too when cars/trucks would go belly up with 100,000 miles on the OD.Changing spark plugs/points every 12,000 miles.2-4 barrel carbs instead of fuel injection.Exhausts systems shot at 40,000 miles.Wonderfull bias ply tires instead of radials. Am radio with a 8 truck tape player.By god those were the good old days.;)
 
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You need to get on the right to repair push. Tractors, cell phones etc. do not have right to repair legislation in place like the autos do. If you do some searching on problems with farmers trying to get simple repairs done on their own, you will be amazed at the problems they run into on equipment that costs hundreds of thousands. Simple things like changing a sensor will require a scan tool or laptop to reset the check light and allow the equipment to function.
Right to repair remedies will not eliminate the need for specific diagnostic equipment nor the need for diagnostic software. And most certainly these items will not be inexpensive.
 

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