3-Point Hitch Hooking up PTO

Industrial Toys · Dec 10, 2020

Have to agree although I never gave it much thought. The collar sucks! It takes two hands to pull it back and you often had best be right on top of it, which is often an impossibility. Time to scrap the whole 3ph thing! Itès 2020 not 1940!

Ford850 · Dec 10, 2020

The spinning collar is less likely to grab loose clothing compared to the push pin style.

Industrial Toys · Dec 10, 2020

Those are odds I would not want to bet on. Why would you be stupid enough to have loose clothing near a rotating shaft or go near one at anytime. Why have safety measures that encourage lack of thinking and stupidity.

Avenger · Dec 10, 2020

We certainly live in a society where there needs to be labels with warning signs and guards to protect us from ourselves and to cover the butts, legally speaking, of the manufactures. Gone are the days where people simply know not to touch something because its sharp, spinning, hot, etc. Common sense doesn't seem to be so common anymore. Fortunately, I was raised around older machinery where there were no guards and no labels. Only heavy steel, half painted and mostly rusted. Yet, I never stuck my fingers into a chain sprocket while it was spinning. I was taught that sticking my head into the baler would cause death. Or that attempting to hook up a PTO shaft while the PTO was spinning would result in a catastrophe. As a young boy, I was stupid. I did a lot of stupid things, such as running the tractor off the road because I wasnt paying attention, or shooting the cat with a BB gun. But I never got hurt on farm equipment. Why? Because my grandfather, my mentor, taught me that equipment, in of itself, is dangerous and should be respected but not feared. He taught me that when you hook (or unhook) up a PTO shaft, on anything, that the tractor needs to be OFF. As in the engine is OFF, not running. The pistons are not moving. The key is in the OFF position. ALWAYS. That was pounded into me. There is no way that PTO shaft could spin fast enough to hurt me if the engine was turned off. To this day, whenever I hook up anything to the PTO shaft, the engine is off. My son, whom will learn how to operate the tractor, will always know to turn off the engine whenever he needs to hook or unhook that shaft. He will have the same lessons I learned when I was his age. Because that builds common sense.

If a safety guard is in my way, makes my already hard life that much more difficult, it gets removed.

Ford850 · Dec 11, 2020

Industrial Toys said:
Those are odds I would not want to bet on. Why would you be stupid enough to have loose clothing near a rotating shaft or go near one at anytime. Why have safety measures that encourage lack of thinking and stupidity.

I didn't say I was in favor of the crazy changes for extreme 'safety', I was just responding with reasoning I've read in the past. As to loose clothing, I guess everything I wear is loose but I'm aware of that and keep my distance from dangerous moving parts. I never have been fond of wearing spandex.

And safety measures that encourage lack of thinking... have you driving a new car lately? Over the top safety that is very distracting to me. But we all get used to changes and adjust to them. When I got my DX55 back in 2007, the safety switches etc nearly killed me compared to the old tractors I was used to. Eventually I got used to the new tractor and have to admit it is much than my 850.

PILOON · Dec 11, 2020

"have you driving a new car lately? Over the top safety that is very distracting to me. "

Yep, like door posts so thick (for safety air bags) that they hide a school bus at an intersection? and thick rear pillars that hide that tree when you back up?
Then the small side windows that hide that car passing U on your right? (and I'm 6 foot and sit high).

Oh from outside it looks like big glass but check out the actual clear vision area.

Yep, new and improved.

ruffdog · Dec 11, 2020

Maybe all clothing should be banned....just a thought....

oldballs · Dec 11, 2020

Check with Ralph in Virginia......I think he said that he gardens just like Adam in his Garden of Eden.

eden.

Wagtail · Dec 11, 2020

ruffdog said:
Maybe all clothing should be banned....just a thought....

I'd do that except that the UV rays down here are brutal.

{... well, that and the restraining order...

}

Jstpssng · Dec 11, 2020

I have both the collar and pin type, and can switch them back and forth between my winch and tiller. I don't see the advantage or disadvantage of either. I also don't have a problem pulling the collar back with one hand, but I do keep it lubed.

I don't understand why people complain about some of the safety features. The guard on my PTO flips up so that it's not in the way, and everything goes on as planned. I spent much more time just lining things up on the 3pth arms, but even that isn't too difficult... with a little help from my 5 foot stone bar. The only problem I have had lately was with the pin adapter for my backhoe... something broke inside and it wouldn't come off no matter what I tried. Luckily it's an adapter so I was able to unbolt it from the pump, allowing me to get on it and take it off. That's equipment failure though, not design flaw.

And before anybody accuses me of being a safety police the first thing that I did was bypass the seat safety; that's one thing which I find to be a PITA.

RidgeHiker · Dec 11, 2020

Safety protections can certainly be annoying and definitely go overboard at times. What has not been pointed to is that we are all human. We can be distracted by something, in too much of a hurry, not well, under the influence of recreational drugs or alcohol, affected by prescription drugs or the wrong combination of prescription drugs, over tired, functioning in poor light, had a fight with the spouse, trip or lose balance, or who knows what, or a combination of things that can make us vulnerable to harm. Further not everyone has had the benefit of training from their fathers and many are new to dealing with tractors or whatever.

bcp · Dec 11, 2020

And some people haven't used a washing machine before.

Bruce

hube2 · Dec 11, 2020

bcp said:
And some people haven't used a washing machine before.

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Bruce

The sad part is that you know if that is a real warning what happened to some poor child.

ruffdog · Dec 11, 2020

hube2 said:
The sad part is that you know if that is a real warning what happened to some poor child.

Hmmm...the kid would get mighty clean though.....:scratchchin:

Jstpssng · Dec 12, 2020

At some safety class I took at some point in time the instructor told of two farmers who were working on an implement with the PTO going. One got a piece of clothing caught in the spinning shaft so his brother instinctively bent down to help him... his long ponytail got caught in the driveshaft and it scalped him.

MoKelly · Dec 12, 2020

bcp said:
And some people haven't used a washing machine before.

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Bruce

I’m still laughing at this one!

That cannot be real.

MoKelly

Jstpssng · Dec 12, 2020

MoKelly said:
I’m still laughing at this one!

That cannot be real.

MoKelly

I certainly hope not. If it is, then humanity is lost.

From this website;
consumer products - Is this "Remove child before washing" clothes label real? - Skeptics Stack Exchange

The label is real.
It is a joke on behalf of the manufacturer, the Norwegian company "Ugly Children's Clothing"
(They now seem to be trading as Marius Kids; the history/relationship was too convoluted for Google Translate to adequately explain.)
Evidence that it hasn't been faked in Photoshop comes from the various different sources of different clothes with different washing instructions, but the same joke:

We're DOOMED!!!!! :shocked: