Looking at a Kioti

Everything Orange · May 4, 2020

New member. Chose this username because everything I own seems to be orange. I never noticed it until someone brought it up one day. All my tools are Ridgid, all my small engine stuff is Husqvarna, my half ton is Orange, guess it makes sense to be looking at a Kioti. Have it narrowed down to a 2510 (cheap and make due) or 3510SE. Want to purchase by winter so I've got some time to make up my mind.... But it'll be orange....

LS Tractor Owner · May 4, 2020

Why not just go in the middle with a CK2610? Same size as the 3510, but no emissions. By the way.. welcome to TBN! You might want to start this discussion in the Kioti forum.

Roadworthy · May 4, 2020

You could also look at the other orange tractor. In any case I'd only consider something above 25 horsepower if it was pre 2014 or so. I don't personally care for the emissions stuff they've slapped on. It's not the idea of the emissions control it's more that they haven't worked out the bugs and when the warranty is up the emissions stuff gets expensive.

Wagtail · May 5, 2020

G'day Mate and welcome to TBN from Downunder.

Enjoy the site.

TBN Support · May 5, 2020

Welcome to the forum!

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BrkMstr · May 5, 2020

When I compared the SE to the Standard - the cost of the added features on the SE, many I had planned on ordering, put the SE on the top of the list - there is no worries about the 35 hp, mines done a couple of automatic regens - no issues - overall very pleased with it........

Everything Orange · May 10, 2020

LS mt125 owner said:
Why not just go in the middle with a CK2610? Same size as the 3510, but no emissions. By the way.. welcome to TBN! You might want to start this discussion in the Kioti forum.

I thought about that, but there's a few complaints from people with hilly terrain that say they wish they'd spent the extra on the 35hp. I don't see the same complaints on the 2510. Maybe because it's lighter and smaller wheels?

Everything Orange · May 10, 2020

Roadworthy said:
You could also look at the other orange tractor. In any case I'd only consider something above 25 horsepower if it was pre 2014 or so. I don't personally care for the emissions stuff they've slapped on. It's not the idea of the emissions control it's more that they haven't worked out the bugs and when the warranty is up the emissions stuff gets expensive.

I find the Deere and Kubota dealerships around here just want you to buy because they're the best....The Kioti dealership is willing to explain everything in great detail and actually put the effort into selling the tractor

Everything Orange · May 10, 2020

BrkMstr said:
When I compared the SE to the Standard - the cost of the added features on the SE, many I had planned on ordering, put the SE on the top of the list - there is no worries about the 35 hp, mines done a couple of automatic regens - no issues - overall very pleased with it........

Yeah I haven't seen any complaints on emissions stuff. Not too excited over it

bigmikega · May 11, 2020

What are the added features of the SE I am trying to decide right now between the SE and Standard? Looks like you loose some PTO HP with the SE.

BrkMstr said:
When I compared the SE to the Standard - the cost of the added features on the SE, many I had planned on ordering, put the SE on the top of the list - there is no worries about the 35 hp, mines done a couple of automatic regens - no issues - overall very pleased with it........

Everything Orange · May 11, 2020

bigmikega said:
What are the added features of the SE I am trying to decide right now between the SE and Standard? Looks like you loose some PTO HP with the SE.

I think it loses a touch of pto hp if you have the cab model (air conditioning) but on the open station it's rubber floor mat, rear view mirrors, dual rear remotes, tilt steering and linked pedal

chevy · May 11, 2020

Everything Orange said:
I think it loses a touch of pto hp if you have the cab model (air conditioning) but on the open station it's rubber floor mat, rear view mirrors, dual rear remotes, tilt steering and linked pedal

Also, extendable draft links & quick adjust sway bars on the 3 point hitch & upgraded seat. The SE HST does not have a clutch.

WoodDuck · May 12, 2020

I bought a new Kioti NX5510 last year. Other than a defective servo that was covered by warranty, I haven't had any issues with it. I like the linked pedal, and the extendable links on the 3 point hitch. Makes hooking up a lot easier. The lever on the back of the tractor to raise and lower the 3 point while standing behind the tractor is handy too. I think that should be standard equipment on all tractors; its just a simple linkage that connects to the 3-point lever beside the seat, but it sure saves a lot of climbing on and off the tractor! I looked at Kubota as well when I was shopping, very nice machines. Just came down to price for me; I could get the Kioti model with all the bells and whistles for quite a bit less than a comparably-equipped Kubota. Nothing against Kubota at all, I just couldn't justify the additional cost at the time. I also really liked the people that helped answer all my questions at the Kioti dealership. Great group to work with. I wouldn't buy any brand of tractor from a dealership that gave me any bad vibes whatsoever. Nothing good will come of it.

PhantomOfHeat · May 12, 2020

chevy said:
The SE HST does not have a clutch.

The HST does have a clutch just not one that you use to drive. The clutch need to be depressed to start the tractor, change the speed selector H, M, L, and to start the PTO.

I wish I would have known the SE had the remote 3pt and extendable draft links when I got mine last year. The only other thing I would like to have installed on it would be the pedal link, its not necessary but would be nice.

Beeenvenue · May 12, 2020

The SE HST does not have a clutch at all since it has electronic pto. Just get in, hit the brake and turn the key.

chevy · May 12, 2020

PhantomOfHeat said:
The HST does have a clutch just not one that you use to drive. The clutch need to be depressed to start the tractor, change the speed selector H, M, L, and to start the PTO.

I wish I would have known the SE had the remote 3pt and extendable draft links when I got mine last year. The only other thing I would like to have installed on it would be the pedal link, its not necessary but would be nice.

The CK10 SE HST does not have a clutch. To start my tractor, I have to either have the parking brake set or push on the brake pedal. To change gear ranges, I just move the lever to the range I want. To start the PTO, I just turn the electric switch to on.

The regular CK10 HST does have a clutch. On those you have do do things as you describe.

PhantomOfHeat · May 12, 2020

Beeenvenue said:
The SE HST does not have a clutch at all since it has electronic pto. Just get in, hit the brake and turn the key.

Your right. Do you know if its possible to change the gear selector while moving on the SE? I wonder why they used a different transmission on the SE and not just use the same one on the base model it seems like it would be cheaper to not have the mechanical clutch on the base model just from a building it point of view.

The other difference I see with the SE (trans) is its max speed is 0.5mph faster the PTO has 2hp less (I assume it has eco-mode) the SE is considered an independent PTO and the base is a Live PTO.

GE7EA · May 12, 2020

I am a first time tractor owner of about 6 months I guess. A friend let me try out his L3800 using a finish mower. I won't go into what I didn't like about the other orange brand, but I can tell you what I have enjoyed with my 3510SE. In comparison I think they are neck and neck with HP. I think the Front End Loader lifts a little more. I really like being able to get on and off from either side of the 3510SE. The seat is nice and if you spend any time on it, you'll feel the difference. I like that the bucket level indicator comes stock and the auxiliary hydraulic ports on the back are there. All of these things I mentioned, my L3800 friend wishes he had. The aux ports on the back have been really nice using a hydraulic top link and a box blade and tiller. I haven't bush hogged yet, but suspect it'll be nice to be able to reach over some banks. As to the HP, I live on 9 acres with 1/2 of it hilly that eventually leads to a pond. I've got a bush-wacker brand rotary cutter (bush hog) that weighs in at 700 lbs or so. The tractor does the job without wavering. The emission thing is a little funky, but overall it's been just fine. I've only got about 60 hours on it. Considering the size.....I can honestly say that it's sufficient for what I've used it for. Bush hogging, spreading dirt and gravel driveway, tilling garden, other fun tractor stuff. I'm actually considering a backhoe.....

chevy · May 12, 2020

PhantomOfHeat said:
Your right. Do you know if its possible to change the gear selector while moving on the SE? I wonder why they used a different transmission on the SE and not just use the same one on the base model it seems like it would be cheaper to not have the mechanical clutch on the base model just from a building it point of view.

The other difference I see with the SE (trans) is its max speed is 0.5mph faster the PTO has 2hp less (I assume it has eco-mode) the SE is considered an independent PTO and the base is a Live PTO.

No, you cannot change gear ranges when moving. I am guessing that the transmission was changed for the independent, auto PTO.

BrkMstr · May 12, 2020

SE Offers: Mirrors, Mat, Dual Rear Remotes, tool box, cruise control on HST, Link Pedal, Dual Air Cleaner, Dual Armrest, Horn, Telescopic lower, Telescopic stabilizers, independent PTO / Auto PTO not sure if I got it all but to me it was worth the price difference....