Snow Attachments 3 point snowblower question..

[mikester]

Hey all! Have a question and hoping for some thoughts. I own a 4100 hst, and have been searching for a rear snowblower. Finally came across a great deal on a pronovost puma 54? Now my question is, since the puma is rated 18-25 hp and the 4100 is 16/17 hp at the rear pto, will I be ok using it being at the very, very low end of the hp requirement...? I知 thinking I値l just have to adjust my speed with dealing with some of the thicker heavier stuff..? I live in CT so we can get a mixture of snow (heavy, fluffy, etc.). My driveway is long and narrow but thankfully paved. So, ultimately I壇 love to hear from some 4100, and series, owners or anyone with a similar size tractor, for some input. Thanks in advance!
The hound

Nothing wrong with upsizing the blower a little bit - it means the gear box will be heavier duty and handle more power than your tractor can output. If the implement is too heavy your tractor might struggle pushing it around in wet snow or on ice. Sounds like you are in the ball park for sizing.

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

Thanks @RickB for the tips. And @ cdaigle430, what are the bucket edge tamers? I have the rest but am debating the chains. I have turfs so I壇 like to see how well they do.

These are Edge Tamers.



Here is the website to the manufacturer:

R2 Manufacturing - Home Of The Edge Tamer

The Edge Tamers allow you to run your bucket over ground that is still soft, or grass without digging in and tearing up the ground. I use them until winter freeze up freezes the ground hard here. Once our ground freezes up, it's hard as granite for the rest of the winter, and I take the Edge Tamers back off again, as they're no longer needed.

 

[TractorHound2]

@slowpokeslim thanks for the pics of the edge tamers to clear that up.
Any other opinions on tire chains? Will they tear apart a paved driveway? Chain fronts only, backs, both?

 

[Slowpoke Slim]

I can't see chains tearing up pavement that's not already hosed. You may get some scratches or marks on the surface only, but most of us aren't running 20 ton bulldozers here. I'm running filled rear tires and R4's on very flat ground here. I don't need chains where I'm at here, but if I had hills and slopes to clear snow on, I would want chains. Rear chains alone should be enough, but I also have steering brakes which helps a lot, even without chains.

 

[TractorHound2]

Thanks for the insight slim. Anyone else have opinions on chains? Any New Englanders have some input?

 

[RickB]

Former New Yorker used chains every year for 40+ years. Put them on before you need them, leave them on till spring.

 

[BoylermanCT]

I have a plow on front and a blower on the back. R4 loaded tires. No chains needed for my flat 600’ driveway. Tractor weighs 2400, loader 400, plow 500, blower 400, weighted tires 300. All told 4000+ lbs. Never had a traction issue while plowing or blowing. Live in NW CT.

 

[TractorHound2]

Thanks RickB for the advice.
Thanks Boylerman. Question, do you have the plow mounted on the loader or use a subframe?

 

[cdaigle430]

Last winter was horrible! Layers of ice, if I didnt buy my chains my tractor would be useless.....have you every tried to walk on ice with a layer of snow? You will only need rear chains-if you want to protect your driveway the 2 link ladder style is a good one.

 

[cdaigle430]

These are Edge Tamers.

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Here is the website to the manufacturer:

R2 Manufacturing - Home Of The Edge Tamer

The Edge Tamers allow you to run your bucket over ground that is still soft, or grass without digging in and tearing up the ground. I use them until winter freeze up freezes the ground hard here. Once our ground freezes up, it's hard as granite for the rest of the winter, and I take the Edge Tamers back off again, as they're no longer needed.

thanks for following up

 

[BoylermanCT]

Thanks RickB for the advice.
Thanks Boylerman. Question, do you have the plow mounted on the loader or use a subframe?

My plow is on the loader so I never have to remove it. It has a SSQA plate so swapping between bucket, forks and plow is easy.

 

[TractorHound2]

Ah. I致e been considering adding that type of plow for this winter. Ultimately I think a subframe plow is in the future, but how do you like that style of plow. Any issues? Concerns?

 

[BoylermanCT]

I have not had any issues or problems with the loader mounted plow. I can plow piles up to 8' high. I can swap out the bucket for the plow in about 2 minutes. You can't do that with a sub-frame plow!

 

[TractorHound2]

Wow! Looks like you have a great set up! How far out does the plow sit from the mounting plate? That may be an issue for me as far as winter storage goes

 

[chim]

Wow! Looks like you have a great set up! How far out does the plow sit from the mounting plate? That may be an issue for me as far as winter storage goes

There are a couple threads here on tucking the plow frame under the SSQA plate. I went with that method mainly because I didn't want the plow to act like a rudder when angled. The other benefit is making the overall length of the equipment shorter.

This is an 8' Fisher blade with a bottom trip edge. The frame connects to the blade higher than some because of that design. It helps avoid dragging the SSQA plate or part of the mounting on the pavement. Paul Short had that problem and added an extra pair of skid shoes to his frame to get around it.

 

[TractorHound2]

Hi chim..for some reason I can稚 see your attached thumbnails..?

 

[LouNY]

There are numerous threads here on tire chains;
Mnay people will tell you that chains will damage your driveway,
if you are spinning your tires with chains yes you can damage a driveway.
That said with really good chain you will not spin so you will not damage it.

The best chains for a tractor are the Euro style;
such as the Aquiline Talon, the OFA, the TRYGG.
This style of chain will provide the most traction, the smoothest ride and actually do the least damage as any.

Any chain with cross "bar" types of links will ride rough and bouncy, the duo-grip style even more so.

Some of the smaller tractor tires may need to go with ATV sized chains in the diamond pattern.

 

[chim]

Hi chim..for some reason I can稚 see your attached thumbnails..?

Here's a thread with several pics:

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums/build-yourself/408923-setback-underslung-ssqa-snow-plow-2.html

Here's Paul's video. One departure that I made was to use a chain so the blade can be floated just like it would have been on the truck the plow was originally mounted on (weight of the blade and its mounting hardware only). Using the loader's float position presses down on the blade with the added weight of the loader frame.:

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