The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!

/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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New Holland TC45 with a 60" Single Lid Wicked

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/ The WICKED Root & Debris GRAPPLE!!!!!!!
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I really would like to have intermediate tines. They would be great for scooping up rocks and firewood and other smallish objects that are likely to fall between the 8-9" distances of the main tines. Not necessary for brush or logs or stumps etc but boy would they be nice for picking up rocks.

EA might consider making the welded tabs an extra cost option. Many folks aren't prepared to take on a welding task.
 
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Wondering why one couldn't slide pipes through the holes in the existing slats. For sure, it would add weight, but it would be fairly easy: right diameter and some caps on threaded ends would hold the pipes in there. Seems that that could fill in a lot of the gaps and allow picking up rocks and the like.

Quick comment on the notion that pallet forks can suffice for grapples: do some stuff with your hands w/o using your thumbs.
 
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Wondering why one couldn't slide pipes through the holes in the existing slats. For sure, it would add weight, but it would be fairly easy: right diameter and some caps on threaded ends would hold the pipes in there. Seems that that could fill in a lot of the gaps and allow picking up rocks and the like.

Quick comment on the notion that pallet forks can suffice for grapples: do some stuff with your hands w/o using your thumbs.

I suppose you could do that but you'd need to get pipes that fit the various sized cutouts. I don't think the cutouts were designed for that though. The cutouts are to make the grapple lighter, look good and most importantly to go faster!:D
 
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I really would like to have intermediate tines. They would be great for scooping up rocks and firewood and other smallish objects that are likely to fall between the 8-9" distances of the main tines. Not necessary for brush or logs or stumps etc but boy would they be nice for picking up rocks.

EA might consider making the welded tabs an extra cost option. Many folks aren't prepared to take on a welding task.

Offering the slats as a customer installed option is the most economical method, for EA and the customer.

Yes, offering them as a factory made option is something Ted and I are pondering/discussing, BUT....
It would require either:
1. Having extra "slat ready" grapple inventory on hand.
2. Welding the tabs to all grapples whether they'll get slats or not.
3. Special order production.

I think #3 makes the most sense, but we'd need to take this into consideration:
In this case, if someone wanted a 60" grapple with slats, we'd have to build another 60" grapple, even if one without tabs is already in inventory.

Travis
 
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Offering the slats as a customer installed option is the most economical method, for EA and the customer.

Yes, offering them as a factory made option is something Ted and I are pondering/discussing, BUT....
It would require either:
1. Having extra "slat ready" grapple inventory on hand.
2. Welding the tabs to all grapples whether they'll get slats or not.
3. Special order production.

I think #3 makes the most sense, but we'd need to take this into consideration:
In this case, if someone wanted a 60" grapple with slats, we'd have to build another 60" grapple, even if one without tabs is already in inventory.

Travis

Agree #3 makes most sense. Perhaps you simply tell the customer that 1) they will need to pay more for the prewelded tabs and 2) it will also take longer. I don't know about others but if it took an extra couple of weeks it wouldn't bother me if it meant getting exactly what I wanted. I can weld but I'd imagine it would take someone a couple of weeks and considerable hassle plus expense to get those tabs welded after taking delivery.
 
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What do you have on the back of that machine in the second photo? looking like a flail. Which model ?

Still loving my grapple from you guys!!!!

It is a customer submitted photo, so I do not know any specifics, but it definitely looks like a flail mower.

I'm glad you like your Wicked Grapple. Rock on!!
Travis
 
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What do you have on the back of that machine in the second photo? looking like a flail. Which model ?

Still loving my grapple from you guys!!!!

Most likely a flail given the size and setting and what appear to be metal guards hanging in front. Second choice would be a tiller but I doubt it.
 
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From my point of view, just put the tab and slat together and fit in the grapple and tack it. It would be pretty easy to get it lined up right that way it would seem to me. Of course if they all came with the tabs welded in from the factory and the slats were just a bolt on kit you either ordered with the grapple or at a later date, that would be easiest of all. But this is bound to add cost to the base grapple to have those tabs fitted to all of them whether a person wanted the extra slats or not.
 
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From my point of view, just put the tab and slat together and fit in the grapple and tack it. It would be pretty easy to get it lined up right that way it would seem to me. Of course if they all came with the tabs welded in from the factory and the slats were just a bolt on kit you either ordered with the grapple or at a later date, that would be easiest of all. But this is bound to add cost to the base grapple to have those tabs fitted to all of them whether a person wanted the extra slats or not.

Yes, for someone with even a 110V MIG and some fluxcore it wouldn't be hard but 1) not everyone has welding equipment, 2) you'd need to grind and then paint afterwards, 3) many folks would just like to start using the grapple as soon as it arrives. No doubt some people will be happy doing the welding themselves and I hope EA makes allowances for that but given that it probably wouldn't take even an hour for one of their fabricators to set up a jig and weld the ?8 or 10 tabs in place I doubt it would cost much to do it at the factory. I've got the welding equipment but just the hassle factor would be enough to make me choose the factory welded version if the price was reasonable.
 
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Offering the slats as a customer installed option is the most economical method, for EA and the customer.

Yes, offering them as a factory made option is something Ted and I are pondering/discussing, BUT....
It would require either:
1. Having extra "slat ready" grapple inventory on hand.
2. Welding the tabs to all grapples whether they'll get slats or not.
3. Special order production.

I think #3 makes the most sense, but we'd need to take this into consideration:
In this case, if someone wanted a 60" grapple with slats, we'd have to build another 60" grapple, even if one without tabs is already in inventory.

Travis

How about a sheet of heavy duty flattend expanded metal, framed on the top and bottom with flat stock so it lies just behind the back the last tine barb. You can add some kind of fastener or welded loop that could line up with the holes in the tines and be bolted into place. This way it could be removeable. IF, the distance from the rear tine barb to the back of the lower frame is the same on all the grapples then you would only need to customize the width based on the grapple size. This could help pick up the smaller wood scraps, stones, etc. Just a suggestion.
 
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How about a sheet of heavy duty flattend expanded metal, framed on the top and bottom with flat stock so it lies just behind the back the last tine barb. You can add some kind of fastener or welded loop that could line up with the holes in the tines and be bolted into place. This way it could be removeable. IF, the distance from the rear tine barb to the back of the lower frame is the same on all the grapples then you would only need to customize the width based on the grapple size. This could help pick up the smaller wood scraps, stones, etc. Just a suggestion.
Interesting idea. The problem would be if that expanded metal behaved a bit too much like a bucket and held dirt like a sieve where lots of vibration would be necessary to clear the loam. I guess there are probably various grades of expanded metal though so maybe if the "holes" are big enough it would work.
 
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I thought I would have to use the backhoe to get this stump out, but the EA grapple just pulled it right out. The recent rains must have given me a hand.

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I thought I would have to use the backhoe to get this stump out, but the EA grapple just pulled it right out. The recent rains must have given me a hand.

Some sort of root rot on that tree if you pulled it out?
 
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Some sort of root rot on that tree if you pulled it out?
Agree. It's always a pleasant surprise when an old stump just surrenders without a fight. The other circumstance is when lateral roots have been ripped with BH ripper and there is a long enough section of trunk remaining to push the stump over before grabbing with the grapple.
 
 

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