Dumb Question after following threads

[KevT]

I have seen posts referring to CUTs and UTs. So what is the difference between a large CUT and a small Utility tractor? Such as my Kubota L3901, has 37 hp so it is not full size, but is it a Utility or a Compact?

 

[George2615]

Just my opinion. SCUT's are under 25 engine HP, CUT's are usually 25-46HP, Utility tractors are usually 47HP and up.

 

[jeff9366]

TractorData.com - Three-Point Hitch

The convention is:

Less than 20-hp = Subcompact Cat 0/1 hitch

20-hp to 40-hp = Compact Cat 1 hitch

40-hp to 60-hp = Utility Cat 1/2 hitch

over 60-hp = Ag Cat 2 hitch


20-hp increment in each category.

((This is OFFICIAL only in Gilchrist County, Florida.))

 

[GManBart]

I have seen posts referring to CUTs and UTs. So what is the difference between a large CUT and a small Utility tractor? Such as my Kubota L3901, has 37 hp so it is not full size, but is it a Utility or a Compact?

The lines are pretty blurry when you get at the top of one class and look at the bottom of next class. Right now you can get CUTs that are up to around 60hp and have a basic tractor weight around 4,000lbs (except Mahindra which throws a wrench in the works with much heavier weights). Compare that to the smallest Utility machines that start at 45hp and around 5,000b basic tractor weight.

The Utility machine will have a Cat I/II hitch, usually higher 3pt lift capacity (most are well over 3,000lbs @24"), and larger wheels and tires with front planetary gear setups rather than the more common spur gear setup. In general everything will be simply bigger and heavier on the Utility machine. When you look at the loaders, most CUTs don't go much above 2,500lbs of max lift, and something like 110" max height (just ballpark numbers). Most Utility machines are well over 3,000lbs and upwards of 130" of lift (again ballpark).

The other kicker is that you generally can't get an HST transmission on Utility machines...at least none I'm aware of.

 

[paulharvey]

TractorData.com - Three-Point Hitch

The convention is:

Less than 20-hp = Subcompact Cat 0/1 hitch

20-hp to 40-hp = Compact Cat 1 hitch

40-hp to 60-hp = Utility Cat 1/2 hitch

over 60-hp = Ag Cat 2 hitch

20-hp increments in each category.

((This is OFFICIAL only in Gilchrist County, Florida.))

Another person from north florida; seems like a lot of folks from the area.

 

[TSO]

I believe that Kubota and/or Massey actually have titles for CUT class. Something like class 1 CUT, class 2, and so on. I believe they base it on frame size & weight.

 

[McREBEL]

What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet

 

[Sawyer Rob]

In general everything will be simply bigger and heavier on the Utility machine.

That really nails it, right there!! You can add "tougher" to it too...

SR

 

[GManBart]

I'm convinced that if a manufacturer made a smaller utility machine with around 50hp at the PTO, under 7,000lbs total with FEL (so people could haul it on a 9,900lb trailer), and an HST tranny, people would buy a bunch of them. Let if lift 3K+ to over 120" on the FEL, 3K+ on a Cat I/II 3pt, nothing more complex than maybe auto throttle and cruise control on the tranny, and the option of changing the wheel spacing yourself, and a bunch of them would sell. Keep it simple, powerful, and just small/light enough that people without a CDL can move them if need be...winner!

 

[Sawyer Rob]

It needs a STRONG (heavy) front axel to live 3K and be RELIABLE. That's why utility farm tractors are heavier, they are much stronger built tractors.

SR

 

[Dr_Zinj]

Consider this. The old Ford 8N tractor was about 25 horse, and was considered a full-sized tractor. Yet it's dimensions and hp would place it in the compact utility tractor range today. So those terms of SCUT, CUT, UT, AG, etc. are rather loose and fluid. jeff9366 gives a nice breakdown in his first post in this thread, but you don't have to take it as Gospel.

 

[Trillium Farm]

I agree with you TSO, SCUT & CUT are determined by size & weight and not HP

 

[KennyG]

Consider this. The old Ford 8N tractor was about 25 horse, and was considered a full-sized tractor. Yet it's dimensions and hp would place it in the compact utility tractor range today. So those terms of SCUT, CUT, UT, AG, etc. are rather loose and fluid. jeff9366 gives a nice breakdown in his first post in this thread, but you don't have to take it as Gospel.

Time marches on. When the 8N was built you would have been hard pressed to find a tractor with more than 50 hp. However, even in those days the 8N was considered a "small tractor" and did not sell well in certain areas. It wasn't the HP that was the problem it was the weight. The heavier Farmalls, Olivers, Allis Chalmers, etc considerably our performed it. I know the small Fords had huge overall sales numbers but in the Midwest where I grew up they were considered an oddity.

I see the differences more as weight and 3 point capability than horsepower.