My new shop.

[Mace Canute]

If I'm reading this right, you only have $2500 in the walls and roof? I'm considering doing a pole barn but a gravel floor, adding concrete as finances permit. I'll bet the heating will be great, though.

Sorry, it's the way I answered streamin's question.

do you have an estimate on what you have in it? not including the concrete, as I won't be doing that at first.

Roughly $43,000 for material and labour was for everything except the concrete, the concrete itself was $40,500 for material and labour. We're certainly looking forwards to seeing how the heating will be during the future winter months once we get it up and running. Hopefully it will be both comfortable and cheap to operate.

 

[ovrszd]

Nice project.

You didn't say what the intent is for this building. But, assuming there will be mechanical work done, I'd flip the side wall inner lining. You stated metal at the top of the wall and wood at the bottom if I understood correctly??

That's a very bad idea if there's going to be any metal work done. One loose spark sliding across the floor and stopping up against the wood lined wall and you've got a huge pile of ashes.

A friend of mine burned his shop to the ground that way. Or at least that's what he suspects. Was doing a lot of grinding. Went to lunch. Neighbor called him on his cell phone saying the shop was on fire. Burned it to the ground. Had wood inner wall.

Even if you are not intending to do metal work, I suggest using metal on the inside walls. I also suggest a good caulk to be used where the wall liner contacts the concrete. Stops any unwanted hot coals as well as preventing water from getting behind the wall and rotting the wood there.

 

[farmgirl19]

That's a veru nice shop, Mace, and a very nice thing you did in helping a friend! I hope you both get lots of good use out of it, for years to come.

 

[Mace Canute]

Nice project.

You didn't say what the intent is for this building. But, assuming there will be mechanical work done, I'd flip the side wall inner lining. You stated metal at the top of the wall and wood at the bottom if I understood correctly??

That's a very bad idea if there's going to be any metal work done. One loose spark sliding across the floor and stopping up against the wood lined wall and you've got a huge pile of ashes.

A friend of mine burned his shop to the ground that way. Or at least that's what he suspects. Was doing a lot of grinding. Went to lunch. Neighbor called him on his cell phone saying the shop was on fire. Burned it to the ground. Had wood inner wall.

Even if you are not intending to do metal work, I suggest using metal on the inside walls. I also suggest a good caulk to be used where the wall liner contacts the concrete. Stops any unwanted hot coals as well as preventing water from getting behind the wall and rotting the wood there.

I think it's going to be used for a combination of storage and mechanical work. He has a 28' by 32' shop now where he does everything including welding but it's cramped to say the least. The old shop does have a grade beam so the actual walls sit about 4-5 inches off the floor. The new shop's grade beam means the walls are almost 1 1/2' off the floor. I've told him he can't do any welding in the new shop just to keep the nice white interior clean but I don't know how long that will last. Hopefully with more room in the old shop he will keep all welding there. I built a Stock Car in my garage many years ago and the fumes from welding have left a brown tinge on everything! It can be washed off but getting to every surface is nigh impossible! (We won 8 class championships in a row with that car btw.) I had the choice of full metal interior but went with the 3/4" plywood around the bottom for two reasons. (a) Attaching any cabinets, etc to the walls is rendered hugely simplified and (b) the plywood is many times more durable than the optional light 29 gauge metal. I'm sure there's going to be many instances of something banging into the lower walls over the years.

That's a veru nice shop, Mace, and a very nice thing you did in helping a friend! I hope you both get lots of good use out of it, for years to come.

Thanks farmgirl. I'm sure it will be a welcome and very useful addition to his acreage; for example awhile back he found a 12,000 lb drive on scissors lift on Kijiji at a great price but didn't really have a place with enough headroom to use it except in his attached garage which is definitely not the ideal location to have it. Now he has the perfect place for it. He does a lot of work on his vehicles, all of which he buys used and in need of work, so he's looking forwards to having it up and running. Presently his shop is heated by a wood burning stove, so in the winter by the time he gets home from work, there isn't a lot of time left to do much after her gets the place warmed up. It's going to be nice now to be able to just open the door and walk into a warm shop anytime he wants.

 

[Sigarms]

Nice.

Got to ask, what does LP run you guys that far up north?

 

[MotorSeven]

Sorry, it's the way I answered streamin's question. Roughly $43,000 for material and labour was for everything except the concrete, the concrete itself was $40,500 for material and labour. We're certainly looking forwards to seeing how the heating will be during the future winter months once we get it up and running. Hopefully it will be both comfortable and cheap to operate.

I'm confused...does that mean the total cost so far was $83,500???? I know y'all are getting pounded by contractors, but that is crazy high. There is a thread on it someplace here, our friends in MB had a 1,000 sq ft on a full walkout basement bungalow built.....it cost them just under half a million.

PS, I like your attitude about $ and your commitment to friendship:thumbsup:

 

[Mace Canute]

Nice.

Got to ask, what does LP run you guys that far up north?

I have no idea. I'm connected to the provincial natural gas grid.

I'm confused...does that mean the total cost so far was $83,500???? I know y'all are getting pounded by contractors, but that is crazy high. There is a thread on it someplace here, our friends in MB had a 1,000 sq ft on a full walkout basement bungalow built.....it cost them just under half a million.

PS, I like your attitude about $ and your commitment to friendship:thumbsup:

Yeah, that number is correct. Like I said, they didn't even have the decency to wear a mask when they billed me!

 

[Gary Fowler]

Prices for things in Canada are outrageously high. I worked on a job up there in the Alberta oilsands and we were paying $185 per cubic meter for concrete in 2002-2005 so I am sure it is over $200 now. Labor rates are way up and getting someone to do the work itself would be a chore hence the high cost. Heck waitress were paid $28 per hour plus tips in Ft McMurray and restaurants never could get enough staff. I suppose it all will work out in the end as the selling price reflects the high costs of building. My shop (small though it is at 30x52 with 996 sq feet of concrete slab only cost me $25,500 fully insulated and wired but no heat, but it is only worth maybe $50k in replacement cost now.

 

[ovrszd]

My shop (small though it is at 30x52 with 996 sq feet of concrete slab only cost me $25,500 fully insulated and wired but no heat, but it is only worth maybe $50k in replacement cost now.

I hear ya Gary. I've got $41K in my 42x50 all steel w/concrete, wired/lit, insulated. All I hired was the concrete poured, did the rest myself to minimize costs I'd have had $50K in it if I hired everything.

 

[dodge man]

Its easy to say that cost to much. My shop is stick built, 28x30, 8' walls, wired, heated and insulated, 2 regular garage doors, 2 windows and a walk in door. I don't think I have $20,000 in it but close. That was 15 years ago I had it built, I did very little myself, just paint, hanging lights etc. You take a bigger shop, add in some inflation and I can see how it would cost that much.