Summitsrule
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kcender said:
This was done on the loader or on the tractor? Did u set it to the max pressure then? Thanks everyone
Bump up lift capacity of L3400/LA463 Loader
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This was done on the loader or on the tractor? Did u set it to the max pressure then? Thanks everyone
kcender
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It is in the loader valve which is up under and behind the right fender.I did it over two years ago so I can't remember the numbers but I know it would be a little over the maximum setting.I say this because the head service guy at the dealership was telling me that you can get away with about 10 percent over the max setting without any problems as they are rated conservatively to avoid any problems.I know some people may not agree with this but that was his opinion and I set the valve to get maximum performance.If it leads to problems then I will deal with it.I will say that I have over 800 hours on the tractor,with a lot of FEL work,and there are no problems YET.This was done on the loader or on the tractor? Did u set it to the max pressure then? Thanks everyone
bullbreaker
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Been following this thread closely I've been wanting to check my L3400/LA463 loader with meter as described by lots of TBN members here. I don't have any problems or complaints with my tractor but was gonna shimmy it some according to specs if need be.
Problem I bought new liquid filled meter from Northern and new hydro/male/female couplins from TSC.I hooked it all up(tapped in) and I 'am getting a zero reading. I'am posting this before I get back to tractor and check to see if hydro fluid running through fittings(gonna have to take apart) and my other thought was bad meter or hole in bottom of meter somehow obstructed. I've cranked tractor up revved up some played with fel joy stick and nothing "NO READING" on meter.Like I previousely stated all new stuff not that something could have come defective. I even turned dial under seat both ways and no reading. Any other thoughts in meantime ? I'am I doing something wrong/misread something.
Big Thanks in advance I've been playing cowboy 40 something miles up road and have everthing hooked up wanting/waiting to check what I mentioned. :confused3:
Boone
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I bought new liquid filled meter from Northern and new hydro/male/female couplins from TSC.I hooked it all up(tapped in) and I 'am getting a zero reading. I'am posting this before I get back to tractor and check to see if hydro fluid running through fittings(gonna have to take apart) and my other thought was bad meter or hole in bottom of meter somehow obstructed. I've cranked tractor up revved up some played with fel joy stick and nothing "NO READING" on meter.Like I previousely stated all new stuff not that something could have come defective. I even turned dial under seat both ways and no reading. Any other thoughts in meantime ? I'am I doing something wrong/misread something.Big Thanks in advance I've been playing cowboy 40 something miles up road and have everthing hooked up wanting/waiting to check what I mentioned. :confused3:
Boone
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bullbreaker
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Okay Update : With tractor idling I'am getting "0" reading. Then when I pressure joystick for FEL alway to the Right in the center position(neutral) like if its a four on the the floor tranny my reading immediately jumps up to 2100. Thoughts/ comments ? Should it not give me a reading just idling without pressureing fel joystick/control ? :confused3:
BTW tractor has correct hydro-fluid level and I'am warming it up (letting it idle). Thanks again in advance !
Boone
BTW tractor has correct hydro-fluid level and I'am warming it up (letting it idle). Thanks again in advance !
Boone
k0ua
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Boone, there is no flow or pressure applied to the port until you move the joystick to apply fluid to that port. The fluid goes into and right back out of the valve heading towards the 3pt. But none goes to one of the work ports until you move the valve to apply fluid to that port. So over and to the right (dump) applys fluid to the extend end of the top cylinders that would dump. Also 2100 sounds like low pressure, wasnt it supposed to be about 2350? I can't remember for sure, perhaps someone else would chime in with the factory nominal pressure.
James K0UA
LD1
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Correct. No pressure until you actuate the joystick to open that port. If there was pressure there, your tractor would be trying to dump the loader all the time.
2100 is a bit low. I also believe it is supposed to be in the 2350 neighborhood.
Mine is set @ ~2600psi and I havent had any issues yet.
bullbreaker
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James/LD1 got it and thank Ya's ! :thumbsup:
Will in next day or two use shop vac/pvc insurerance method.I have lots of shimes will try to hit the 2500 or slightly under reading.
Thanks again.
Boone
Will in next day or two use shop vac/pvc insurerance method.I have lots of shimes will try to hit the 2500 or slightly under reading.
Thanks again.
Boone
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If you add a QD to a tee and connect it to the IN port of the FEL valve, you can read any pressure the tractor pump is producing. If you leave it there, you can see the pressure for each function.
There is another relief at the rear of the tractor or on the hyd block. It could be set equal or lower that the FEL.
Using a 2 in cyl 1 in shaft:
If you bump up the pressure around 2500 psi, 100 psi = 315 lbs of force per cyl
-----------------------------------------------------500 psi = 1575 lbs of force per cyl
There is another relief at the rear of the tractor or on the hyd block. It could be set equal or lower that the FEL.
Using a 2 in cyl 1 in shaft:
If you bump up the pressure around 2500 psi, 100 psi = 315 lbs of force per cyl
-----------------------------------------------------500 psi = 1575 lbs of force per cyl
bullbreaker
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LD1
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Now you might have to find heavier ballast:laughing:
bullbreaker
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k0ua
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Boone that should have made quite a difference.. Now don't get into trouble with all that new lift capability!
James K0UA
James K0UA
bullbreaker
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Boone that should have made quite a difference.. Now don't get into trouble with all that new lift capability!
James K0UA
James which brings to mind : Have you checked your Kioti's lift capacty and if so is/was the adjustment simular to these Bota's ? Just wondered.
Boone
k0ua
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I have not checked.. I can tell you it is more than the L3400 had by quite a bit, but I have not measured it.. I assume the adjustments would be similar to the Kubota, but haven't checked it out. Even though the tractor is 1066 lbs heavier in itself, and the amount of liquid ballast is quite a bit more, probably at least 300 lbs due to the larger tires, I am still using the 750 lb rear weight, which seemed about right for the Kubota, but could be a little heavier for the Kioti. (needs another 350 lbs) The loader is strong, but I have no measurement to really know. What I don't understand is the DK40's with their KL401 monster loader that will lift 2760 lbs on a tractor that is only 4 inches longer, and has just a little beefier front axle and larger tires, and weight just a little bit more but how are guys getting away with not ballasting the heck out of those things, Looks like to me that loader would get you in trouble real quick without proper ballast. because the tractor is just not that much bigger than mine. Yet I see photo's of guys running them with no or little rear ballast.. yikes! Maybe they are just the delivery pictures.. I hope so.
James K0UA
LD1
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Either they are just delivery pics, or they arent even getting half of their rated capacity in the FEL.
Those things must take a HUGE amount of ballast to even be efficient. Thats why I mention SOO many times that dont go by the specs alone when shopping. Because heck, my L3400 could have a 5000lb loader but I dont know of any way to put it to any good use at all?? I have loaded rears and an 1100lb bushhog. While the bushhog does the job lifting, if I lift and curl, it can make the rear really light. And thats 1100lbs hanging WAY back in the form of a 6' hog. So I dont think a stronger loader would be of any benefit at all to me. I wonder how much the hoe weighs for a 3400??
k0ua
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Well I have seen pictures of Island Tractors picking up some really big rocks with his grapple. I think the DK40's will actually pick up 2760 lbs I am just hoping that new guys realize what a tiger by the tail they have up front and ballast accordingly. I think the hoe for a L3400 like a bh77 weighs about 1250 don't they?
James K0UA
bullbreaker
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k0ua
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Oh my, big difference in those two hoes.. I didn't know there was such a difference in the weight.
bullbreaker
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Anybody else check or bump there's up lately ? :tractor:
Boone
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