CUT Low Loader Lift Capacity

[jyoutz]

I don't recall seeing your lift height or reach requirements.
Have you considered the 3 point lift units;
3-Point Attachments | Tractor Attachments | Westendorf

Those are interesting. Any idea what they cost?

 

[yooperdave]

I have no formal lift or reach requirements. I clear lots of snow, move lots of fill, and lift heavy items in and out of my truck and trailer.

 

[rScotty]

Kubota TLB? Used L39, L45 or M59. Once you try one a regular ag tractor want do except a large M.

That's right. Don't let anyone tell you that Kubota can't make an FEL.
This is for the M59, and these are some serious Loader lifting specs for a 59hp tractor.
Almost 4000 lbs at the pins to the full 126" height, and 3000 lbs at the center of the bucket.
These figures are conservative. It will lift a lot more than that to half height.

 

[oldballs]

Looksl like my AMD is getting worse. Sorry about that!

The budget is $30,000. The LS MT342H with rim guard delivered is $28,500.

 

[newbury]

I currently have an MX5800 with LA1065 loader. It came from the dealer with the hydraulic pressure set at 10% below spec. The dealer said it was for liability reasons. They had no problem setting it back to spec after I asked.

Like I wrote - dealers cranked them down on purpose.

I just thought i'd throw in a real world example for reference. This is a 2200lb pallet. I was only able to pick it up about 4 inches above the deck height of the trailer before it stopped lifting all together. From there, I had to make like a 30 point turn because the steering practically doesn't work. you can see the front tires squashed out. I try very hard to only move this type of weight with a tractor on very rare occasions. Due to this particular job, it wasnt going to work well to use a CTL. This is the biggest L series available and has a 1055 loader. Even if other tractors have a higher rated capacity, its still a massive strain because of how far out tractor loaders are leveraged from the front axle.
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If that's the l6060 the specs I looked up for that:

How much can a Kubota L6060 lift?


Lift Capacity (pivot pin): 2361 lb. (1071 kg.) Lift Capacity (500 mm fwd): 1784 lb. (809 kg.)

And it looks like a lot of your load is far forward.
Did you check your pressure vs the spec? It might be 10% low.

 

[sd455dan]

I just thought i'd throw in a real world example for reference. This is a 2200lb pallet. I was only able to pick it up about 4 inches above the deck height of the trailer before it stopped lifting all together. From there, I had to make like a 30 point turn because the steering practically doesn't work. you can see the front tires squashed out. I try very hard to only move this type of weight with a tractor on very rare occasions. Due to this particular job, it wasnt going to work well to use a CTL. This is the biggest L series available and has a 1055 loader. Even if other tractors have a higher rated capacity, its still a massive strain because of how far out tractor loaders are leveraged from the front axle.
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Wow, your making me feel special with my 55 HP tractor with a Koyker K2 FEL.
I had never measured the FEL ability, and it is rated around 2k lift to full height, but last summer we had to move a bunch of Lignetics pellet stove pellet bags that were on stacked pallets. 40lb bags 88 of them plus the 2 pallets .
I was able to pick it up, back up an inclined gravel driveway with the Gannon box blade on the 3 point and then drive up on my 5th wheel tilt trailer with the load. I multiplied it out and looks like about ~3600lb. I am sure it helped having the pallet forks and making sure the lower pallet was fully slid on. tractor is also pretty wide at 76 inches.

 

[amhicks21]

And it looks like a lot of your load is far forward.
Did you check your pressure vs the spec? It might be 10% low

Considering the 500mm forward spec is only 1784lbs, I'd say the pressure is right where it should be.

That's right. Don't let anyone tell you that Kubota can't make an FEL.
This is for the M59, and these are some serious Loader lifting specs for a 59hp tractor.
Almost 4000 lbs at the pins to the full 126" height, and 3000 lbs at the center of the bucket.
These figures are conservative. It will lift a lot more than that to half height.

I got the opportunity to use an m59 a few years ago and the difference is staggering. The TLB's are truly made to lift. That said, for someone like me who's doing 3pt work 90% of the time, I absolutely wouldn't want one. Every bump in spec in one area detracts from function, speed or comfort in another area.

Wow, your making me feel special with my 55 HP tractor with a Koyker K2 FEL.
I had never measured the FEL ability, and it is rated around 2k lift to full height, but last summer we had to move a bunch of Lignetics wood stove pellet bags that were on stacked pallets. 40lb bags 88 of them plus the 2 pallets .
I was able to pick it up, back up an inclined driveway with the Gannon box blade on the 3 point and then drive up on my 5th wheel tilt trailer with the load. I multiplied it out and looks like about ~3600lb. I am sure it helped having the pallet forks and making sure the lower pallet was fully slid on. tractor is also pretty wide at 76 inches

I think the important thing to take away is that different tractors are built for different things.
The l6060 is like a sports car with a high hp to weight ratio and a 6 speed hst trans where as yours sounds to be more like a pickup truck with similar hp but higher capacities that inevitably would make its operation slower. Both useful, but better suited for different tasks.

 

[DieselBound]

That’s too bad... the mechanical engine is also a big plus, nobody says they wish they had an ECM

I'll say it: I wish I had an ECM! OK... I already have an ECM And the ones in my 22 year-old and 19 year-old VW TDIs rock! (still going strong- not a single issue; easy to punch up power on): I rely on these cars the most; they're used the most (I put my most valued thing in one of them- my wife!).

My Kioti now has 720 hours. Not a single issue with the engine or engine management bits. Always starts. Is great on fuel (owing to the ECM). Doesn't stink like the mechanical diesels. My only complaint(?) is is that I don't have an ECM code reader (or tool) for it (I do for my VWs); but, again, not a SINGLE engine or engine management issue, in which case if I had such a tool it would only have collected dust.

I've got pure mechanical diesels (four of them), and I've got ECM-controlled ones (three of these). ALL work ALL the time. Each fits its role well.

 

[sd455dan]

Considering the 500mm forward spec is only 1784lbs, I'd say the pressure is right where it should be.



I got the opportunity to use an m59 a few years ago and the difference is staggering. The TLB's are truly made to lift. That said, for someone like me who's doing 3pt work 90% of the time, I absolutely wouldn't want one. Every bump in spec in one area detracts from function, speed or comfort in another area.



I think the important thing to take away is that different tractors are built for different things.
The l6060 is like a sports car with a high hp to weight ratio and a 6 speed hst trans where as yours sounds to be more like a pickup truck with similar hp but higher capacities that inevitably would make its operation slower. Both useful, but better suited for different tasks.

Completely agree,

My tractor is a an ancient "physical" tractor to run. It makes you work to run it unless just mowing or plowing (field work)

When I plow snow, by the time I get done and in the house sometimes I feel like a beating has taken place.

It only has 6 forward gears and 2 reverses No syncros and a very heavy shift. 5300+ lb bare weight, so actually heavier than an M7060 4x4 ROPS bare weight by a couple hundred pounds, and I have come to believe that is before the rear wheel weights that were added. As i used it that day I think the tractor weighed somewhere between 8000-9000lbs (added weight of the FEL, pallet forks, 1100lb Gannon box blade before lifting the pallets.

Oosik has me beat by a few hundred pounds, those loaded rear tires add quite a bit and his grapple is heavier as well.

I want to get a much newer Cabbed Hydro or even a power shift tractor in the future for most of the winter duties but It will have to have a stout FEL as well because we like to buy the large square hay bales for the horses, that means unloading 1250-1500lb bales stacked 2 high off of a semi bed sometimes and stacking 3 high in the barn.

It may be a while with for sale tractor scarcity and How the prices have gone up.

 

[DieselBound]

Already noted is that the NX is rated for just over 2,700 lbs. I can confirm that this is a realistic spec as I've lifted to max. A pallet of 2k lbs might sound like it's 2k lbs, but geometry and such makes it much more. I regularly pick up 2k lbs of feed on pallets and it's about as much as I care to operate with. I've picked up what I believe is a far greater, numerically speaking, amount of weight in the form of tree trunks using my grapple, but that weight is closer to the pins. My NX5510 is probably running probably close to 7k lbs with my 1,200 lb flail or box blade on the rear (and with loaded rear tires).

Being able to move a lot of weight is one thing, doing a LOT of repetitions is another. Some tractors (within a manufacture's offerings) don't fare well with lots of heavy loader work, while others seem to be OK. Best to not be operating near max on a regular basis; if you find yourself doing so then you really should be using a higher-spec'd machine.

Yes, tractors suck for pallet work. One has to pretty much operate in pucker mode at all times (lots going on to keep all the geometry working such that bad things don't happen). Merlo Multifarmer, in my dreams...