Your towing rigs and trailers

[DavesTractor]

Honestly, some folks would argue anything on these forums just to try to show that they know just a little more than the rest and it gets tedious.

I see that a little differently. I appreciate the guys that go into detail on whatever the subject might be. I can skim over it if I wish. I've always been amazed at the breadth of knowledge on this site. If someone mentions financing, a CFO disguised as a weekend farmer might chime in. If an electrical issue, sure enough, an electrical engineer starts talking about sine waves and frequencies or whatever. I see this as a valuable contribution as I am a lifelong learner. No doubt some folks just like to stir up issues or show off, but that seems rare on this site. Just my opinion and meant somewhat generically.

 

[dodge man]

I looked up a couple of window stickers for actual trucks, I would guess your payload sticker will be as low as 1500 lbs and as high as 1700 lbs. That’s pretty good for a loaded truck. At one time on previous versions of Ram it would have been lower by as much as 500 lbs. I think Ram has addressed their lower payload numbers. The reason I’m asking is the payload numbers are important to me and I’m curious what it is on an actual truck not a towing guide. I am not trying to show how smart I am.

 

[BigBlue1]

Then it will be interesting to see what Nik responds with from his sticker.

 

[deezler]

^ this is why I like having a 9200 lb GVWR with sub 5800 lb curb weight on my 2500HD, even though its mostly overkill for my homeowner needs. Never have to think about splitting up pallets of brick, pavers, block, etc.

I don't know how you guys get by with these 1000-1500 lb payload ratings.... put your family in the cab and you're nearly tapped out. Well, actually I do know, many of you probably just regularly exceed the rating. :laughing:

 

[nikdfish]

Here's the numbers from the sticker. Says mfg date 6-20, vin lookup said 7-22 but that may have been the first transfer date. I believe curb weight is in the 5000 - 5200 lb. ballpark (crew cab +v8+ 5'7" bed).

GVWR on sticker is 7100 lb.

 

[dodge man]

The other sticker will list the actual payload number.

In the past I had a Dodge 2500 and the payload on that truck with the Cummins is less than a lot of modern half tons.

 

[nikdfish]

OK, got the right one.

Looks like 1301 lb. Odd how things are out of sync. 5200 (curb weight) + 1301 (max cargo on sticker) = 6501 lb while GVWR is 7100 lb. Load range 113 tires should be OK for 2500 lb. each, so where does the limitation come from?

 

[dodge man]

Your truck probably weighs closer to 5800 lbs, the options add up and take away from the payload.

 

[s219]

I had the same experience with the various brochures and towing guides from the manufacturers being unreliable for cargo and tow ratings. If you're lucky they will be within 400#. The doorjamb sticker (or sometimes in the glove box) is the most accurate data and will usually be specific to the VIN or configuration and trim level.

The loaded up trucks suffer in cargo capacity, no doubt about it. You're trading off cargo capacity for options, crew cab, etc (and you carry it around all the time). And at least with GMC, going with the heavier engine options also deducts from cargo capacity. In a GMC, if you care about cargo or towing capacity, best option is a lower trim level with the smaller V8 and avoid crew cab. That can gain 200-500# in extra capacity for cargo and towing.

I hear a lot of people proclaim that the bigger engines are better for towing. Well, they might feel stronger when towing, but they also knock down the towing capacity. I think there is a couple hundred pound loss in tow rating with the larger V8 in GMC.

 

[lostcause]

OK, got the right one.

Looks like 1301 lb. Odd how things are out of sync. 5200 (curb weight) + 1301 (max cargo on sticker) = 6501 lb while GVWR is 7100 lb. Load range 113 tires should be OK for 2500 lb. each, so where does the limitation come from?

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seeing this just made me curious so i grabbed a flashlight and went out to check mine, and my numbers all add up. 7200 gvw, 5405 curb, 1795 payload... both the tire sticker and the manufacturer towing / hauling sticker matched up on the max payload amount. Hard to believe that any newer-ish trucks (even from different manufacturers) would vary by that much. Makes me think that they aren't going apples to apples, and that makes me surprised that they don't all use the most advantageous data they can.