Winch, bucket mounted Reese.

[RadarTech]

Folks,
I’ve been thinking about this since i got my chipper.. and since spring is around the corner I’d like to tap the hive mind for either a thumbs up, down, or don’t do it….

I have a bolt on set of hooks, loops, and Reese hitch.

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It is fasted to my bucket with 10 grade 8 bolts. They have lock nuts and were 5/8 bolts…

My idea, is a Reese hitch plate and a 5-6k winch. A snatch block as a fulcrum point to run a cable to the rear of the tractor where the chipper is connected. And using a wireless remote, I could pull small brush, limbs etc up the bank.. and then chip them.

Now…

Is it a good idea?

I believe the winch plate rated for 8k or 10k winches and a 5k winch with a second cable for length.

I don’t expect to pull more than 300-400 lbs of stuff using this.. but with this method I can triple my productivity…

The chipper is a woodland mills TF810.

TF810 PRO PTO Wood Chipper

Woodland Mills supplies high-quality Bandsaw Mills, wood chippers, trailers, and accessories! Get the equipment to tackle big logs & long hours today!

woodlandmills.com

The tractor is a Yanmar YT359C..


Thoughts?

Thanks!

 

[2manyrocks]

The tree service I used had a winch built into their chipper. They could winch right to the intake.

 

[Sportsman762]

I think i would reduce the complexity and mount a 2k winch under the chipper. 8-10K and your asking for trouble unless it is firmly mounted to the tractor frame.
If you mount it to the bucket and run it under the tractor I see a few potential problems. Any angle that is not straight back and you will be pulling the wire against the rear tires, potentially leading to a flat. You are removing the bucket from being used for other activities, the bucket lip might get bent if you hit a snag and put 8-10k of pull on it, same for the loader arms getting tweaked. A smaller winch will require less current, aka smaller wire, and not have the power to damage stuff if your only pulling 3-400 lbs.

I don’t expect to pull more than 300-400 lbs of stuff using this

A low powered winch will stall out if you hit a snag before severe damage occurs.

Most commercial chippers that have a winch mount it above the feed chute so that you can pull stuff up into the chipper. I doubt that your chipper has a strong enough chute, hence my suggestion to mount it under the chipper so its near the lift arms.

 

[RadarTech]

I should have been clearer.. I’m not going under the tractor.. I’m going out at an angle to the side… since it is a PTO chipper and there isn’t a secure place to mount it on the chipper I can’t do that.. that’s why I included the link to the chipper so yall could see it..

Look at this rough sketch.. the tractor is not moving while I’m chipping since it is a PTO chipper.. with the cable going to a fulcrum in front and to a side.. it would not be going under.. and wouldn’t have bucket issues..
I’m not looking to pull all the way into the chipper.
It may be that I turn the tractor, winch up the bank then flip around and chip..
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Does this make more sense?

The issue I’m trying to avoid is the tops of 2-3 trees that are in an area I can’t get to because of the slope.. and it would be a pain to pull up by hand… a winch would let me pull it up and then chip…with a 7500 lb tractor and chipper combo, I doubt pulling 300-400 lbs of brush would move it…

 

[BlueKnife]

Folks,
I’ve been thinking about this since i got my chipper.. and since spring is around the corner I’d like to tap the hive mind for either a thumbs up, down, or don’t do it….

I have a bolt on set of hooks, loops, and Reese hitch.

Amazon.com

It is fasted to my bucket with 10 grade 8 bolts. They have lock nuts and were 5/8 bolts…

My idea, is a Reese hitch plate and a 5-6k winch. A snatch block as a fulcrum point to run a cable to the rear of the tractor where the chipper is connected. And using a wireless remote, I could pull small brush, limbs etc up the bank.. and then chip them.

Now…

Is it a good idea?

I believe the winch plate rated for 8k or 10k winches and a 5k winch with a second cable for length.

I don’t expect to pull more than 300-400 lbs of stuff using this.. but with this method I can triple my productivity…

The chipper is a woodland mills TF810.

TF810 PRO PTO Wood Chipper

Woodland Mills supplies high-quality Bandsaw Mills, wood chippers, trailers, and accessories! Get the equipment to tackle big logs & long hours today!

woodlandmills.com

The tractor is a Yanmar YT359C..


Thoughts?

Thanks!

If you're going to mount a winch on the front of that tractor, I would mount it here, not on the bucket. Bucket mount like that is a good way to bend or break something.

 

[Sportsman762]

Thanks for the diagram. It will probably work without damage. However if the 300 lb of brush hits a snag, the line tension can increase significantly vary quickly. An 8K winch has plenty of power to tweak a loader arm, or damage a bucket. I would not do this, or I use a lower powered winch that would not have the strength to bend the loader arms. A solid mount like @BlueKnife stated is required for a stronger winch. Most likely your fine, with your plan, however the potential of damage is too high for my risk appetite.

 

[2manyrocks]

What you are talking about is setting a pulley as redirect.

May require a lot of cable to go from the winch, to the redirect, and finally to the tree top. If there's a lot of winching, could be slow and involve some battery drain.

Depending on the angles, you could run into an issue of the cable digging into the top of the bank as you try to winch the tree tops up.

Most tractor forestry winches are rear mounted and have a ground anchor plate that resists the forces of winching for a reason.

 

[2manyrocks]

I remember watching a youtube video showing how someone made a simple tree mount for a small electric winch they used to winch deer out of the woods. That could be another option to consider.

 

[WranglerX]

You probably don't need anything more the 2500# winch fro brush pulling, and attached to bucket is pretty good chance of bending or wracking lift arms....IF you are going to mount a winch do it rigidly to tractor frame as in post #5... If you do a lot of winching with electric winch you will probably want to update battery CCA and also higher output alternator.... Electric winches are designed for occasional "recovery" not specially good for continuous use....

 

[bigtiller]

I have a woodland mills chipper also, it is a WC68. The 68 and WC88 have an optional trailer hitch that bolts onto the back-bottom of the frame. The hitch has a pretty heavy frame.

It would be a good place for a winch. I wonder if it would also fit your TF810 pro. It might be worth a ph call to find out.