Will UAW Strike?

[Joel/ak]

If he ever gets it, the torque will be unbelievable. All the torque he wants at very low speed/rpms.

I don't plan on buying one, even though I'm probably the perfect target (we have one nice/reliable vehicle for travel and several "beater with a heater" style vehicles for our 20 mile round trip commute every day. With more vehicles than drivers and a short predictable commute an EV might make sense from a usage standpoint. We need enough people to buy them so that they can work out the problems (fiery death, cold weather, more pollution than an ICE, etc).

What's it going to put out 700+ ftlb of torgue? I read the numbers once but forgot. He could definitely pull but at what cost to battery charge to keep said pull going? That's what I want to know. Yeah, if he ever gets it.

 

[5030]

All the grunt in the world don't mean squat if it will only go 100 miles and then poop out.

 

[ultrarunner]

The Tesla Supercharging network makes long distance driving extremely easy.

I did see cars charging on my I-5 trek from the SF Bay Area to Olympia and one Tesla with WA plates was pacing me to the Oregon/California border.

 

[5030]

...If you have the time to sit around and twiddle your thumbs maybe. Today, people are always in a hurry to get nowhere anyway.

 

[5030]

Guess the 64 dollar question is... When will the UAW rank and file go back to work?

 

[airbiscuit]

November 21st

 

[MoKelly]

The Tesla Supercharging network makes long distance driving extremely easy.

Perhaps you are correct. I hope you are correct.

I drive from St Louis to Tampa —- roughly 1000 miles. 5-6 times/year. It’s easy in a gas car - stop for gas/coffee every 300 miles. Interstate all the way.

I can make the trip in 16 hours.

How long would you think it would take in a Tesla? Would I have to spend the night along the way?

 

[airbiscuit]

And yet, Tesla owners seem very happy with their cars.

 

[5030]

How long would you think it would take in a Tesla? Would I have to spend the night along the way?

2 years ago in the winter, my BIL found out. What usually takes him 3.5 hours to get here to the farm from his house in New Lennox, Illinois, took him 6 hours because he had to stop and charge up his Tesla X (I think it's an X, not sure however).

Back then the choices for charging were slim at best so he went to a Supercharger but because it was cold out (we do live in the north), it took substantially longer to charge it up and he was running the cabin heater (more battery drain). When he finally got here, he was running on electric fumes..lol, so I had to plug him into the 220 shop power to charge it up so he could go back home in a few days. Not for me when I can fill my car (ICE) in less than a minute and travel around 400 miles before I need to pull into a filling station and fill it up again. I will admit it is a nice car and I've driven it but to own one, never.

If Musk gave me one, I'd refuse it.

Like I've said in previous comments, I'd consider a plug in hybrid but a pure electric ain't happening here and I don't care how expensive gas gets either. Heck, my wife just bought an off lease Chevy Suburban LTZ with a big V8 under the hood and it's a gas sucker but she feels comfortable in it and candidly so do I. Besides I like riding rather than driving anyway.

 

[Hay Dude]

And yet, Tesla owners seem very happy with their cars.

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[Gale Hawkins]

Perhaps you are correct. I hope you are correct.

I drive from St Louis to Tampa —- roughly 1000 miles. 5-6 times/year. It’s easy in a gas car - stop for gas/coffee every 300 miles. Interstate all the way.

I can make the trip in 16 hours.

How long would you think it would take in a Tesla? Would I have to spend the night along the way?

If you are an old dude with no joint movement in your spine and arthritis in all of your other joints bump your estimated time by 4 hours.

Yesterday I got up at 6 am in Austin Texas then worked the tradeshow and cleared room and at noon hit the mic button and said "Navigate to Home" and put it in drive and engaged FSD. Blue she took care of steering, braking, signaling and driving to the next Supercharger of her choice with 60-90 miles of range remaining each time. That 800 trip back to Kentucky took 15.5 hours. FSD selected speed from reading speed limit signage and the blue lights never flashed..

My son had me get a Tesla for the safety of his Mom I expect. . We have the 2023 Tesla Model Y dual motor long range battery. The older chargers take about 50 minutes to charge to 98 percent. The current version chargers takes about 25 minutes. The one in Little Rock across from Hooters is slow and restrooms are far far away. I had to wolf my can of tuna.

I am still on Ver. 11 of FSD but Elon Musk has posted a drive on Ver. 12 using early AI technology. Since Ver 11 can handle Jonesboro. Little Rock, Texarkana, Dallas, Austin as well Memphis Tennessee I expect V12 will be over kill for my but you may be looking for the Robo Taxis era.

You may have picked up on the discussions of some of these old husband EV tales being posted.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

2 years ago in the winter, my BIL found out. What usually takes him 3.5 hours to get here to the farm from his house in New Lennox, Illinois, took him 6 hours because he had to stop and charge up his Tesla X (I think it's an X, not sure however).

Back then the choices for charging were slim at best so he went to a Supercharger but because it was cold out (we do live in the north), it took substantially longer to charge it up and he was running the cabin heater (more battery drain). When he finally got here, he was running on electric fumes..lol, so I had to plug him into the 220 shop power to charge it up so he could go back home in a few days. Not for me when I can fill my car (ICE) in less than a minute and travel around 400 miles before I need to pull into a filling station and fill it up again. I will admit it is a nice car and I've driven it but to own one, never.

If Musk gave me one, I'd refuse it.

Like I've said in previous comments, I'd consider a plug in hybrid but a pure electric ain't happening here and I don't care how expensive gas gets either. Heck, my wife just bought an off lease Chevy Suburban LTZ with a big V8 under the hood and it's a gas sucker but she feels comfortable in it and candidly so do I. Besides I like riding rather than driving anyway.

When you get a Tesla with FSD, your wife may no longer be scared of your driving and be willing to ride with you.

 

[tacticalturnip]

As much respect as I have for Elon Musk and Tesla, I loathe electric vehicles. They've become a physical representation of so much that I find repulsive about the world right now.

 

[paulsharvey]

Ok, so, I think I've tried to make my position pretty clear, I dont want one (if it was free, of coarse I would take it). But... look at E bikes. I'm 95% sure they were made for the urban, man-bun crowd, to go from Starbucks to their IT job 3 blocks over. Now, it seems they are a Huge hit with hunters.
Why? Partly regulations, they aren't considered a motorized vehicle in some Wildlife Management Areas, but also, practicality, they are next to silent, light, throw them in the bed of a truck, and scout away, or ride past the 300 yard from parking lot crowd.

All things in moderation. Long term, I dont think they are efficient use of power, until nuclear or solar/wind become cheap and plentiful; but; if we get to the point where for strictly commuting, you can go a month on $100/power vs $500 worth of gas; maybe. I dont think the tax payer should fund the experiment, and I don't think they should heep regulations on conventional vehicles to twist arms.

 

[Paystar]

Ok, so, I think I've tried to make my position pretty clear, I dont want one (if it was free, of coarse I would take it). But... look at E bikes. I'm 95% sure they were made for the urban, man-bun crowd, to go from Starbucks to their IT job 3 blocks over. Now, it seems they are a Huge hit with hunters.

Around here they are a huge hit with people that have lost their license to DUI's and crackheads.

 

[Paystar]

I see even Mack Truck's workers are on strike.

 

[Torvy]

Not in this survey

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1) this is initial quality, not customer satisfaction
2) initial quality is a useless measurement unless you want a vehicle for a year or two

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

69% of Japanese cars are made in the USA.

And some with more USA made content than the Big 3!

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

Btw, a contract can be ANY MEETING OF THE MINDS……..

But at some of these meetings the minds haven't showed up!

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

...If you have the time to sit around and twiddle your thumbs maybe. Today, people are always in a hurry to get nowhere anyway.

Some of these owners schedule thier meetings during the charging time, and catch up on there jobs while waiting. So all is not lost. Not all are twiddleing thier thumbs.
So virtue signalling or not virtue signalling is what they do while they wait???!!!