Will UAW Strike?

/ Will UAW Strike? #81  
I'm not sure I understand the your post. Do you mean Ford is virtue signaling by manufacturing EVs?
Yes, there is not enough electrical infrastructure to charge all the projected unit sales of EV's. Every manufacturer knows it, so what are they building for? Virtue signaling. my opinion.

The market for EV's is saturated, many new EV's sitting on storage lots. Ford's projected market share is actually lower than anticipated. They jumped in the game against lower cost producers, and will have a harder time seeing profits without higher unit sales.
They need higher volume unit sales to make it profitable.

Good quote froms @Snobdds

A bit of an exaggeration on spread, but really bad understanding of volume.

Volume creates economies of scale. Where you can lower unit costs and increase profit margin through operation efficiencies. The text book goal of any manufacturer.
 
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US CAR MANUFACTURER SALES BY QUARTER​


ManufacturerQ4 2020Q1 2021Q2 2021Q3 2021Q4 2021Q1 2022Q2 2022Q3 2022Q4 2022Q1 2023Q2 2023Q3 2023
General Motors770,176696,226674,388457,509441,840511,418578,435554,120624,740602,184690,3270
Toyota Motor Corp660,715591,270656,568536,845449,566497,804483,557489,456516,377467,324558,048379,475
Ford Motor Company538,587518,681472,259397,644504,138429,174480,558461,514479,741476,041527,875332,834
Stellantis - FCA499,430469,652485,313400,919411,512405,222409,076385,659347,674367,654434,6430
Hyundai Kia Auto Group354,878344,472454,920347,991306,456313,114370,983380,730386,767382,306432,882287,433
Honda Motor Company366,068347,091486,419345,914286,460266,418239,789222,050255,250284,507347,025217,766
Nissan Motor Co243,125285,552298,150198,958194,985201,085183,176154,090191,014235,813244,3530
Tesla64,00266,00073,30184,00178,696163,371118,700113,998140,000170,002172,9990
Subaru Corporation175,382160,426160,824156,222121,008132,346131,449137,320155,466143,376160,713106,796
Volkswagen Group174,202160,123198,663135,613136,080113,550146,420141,32697,270137,875151,4350
Daimler95,31090,03292,44171,18276,01069,17298,80986,41288,49473,77995,6700
BMW Group107,29977,764105,90182,064106,13380,58784,03285,206111,21889,16095,5270
Mazda75,79678,794105,90984,04659,48882,26860,53572,58979,51790,07495,39960,803
Volvo36,52627,23936,52531,61128,04922,69627,82821,63129,82226,48333,26721,429
Mitsubishi Motors Corp14,76928,23125,14723,79924,85826,39821,87116,78120,75520,93524,6030
Jaguar Land Rover33,19825,06722,13722,02537,69820,21612,42113,89122,62017,40115,4710
Rivian Automotive000009007006,0996,0004,20112,6010
Lucid Group0000005005998507906010
Karma Automotive000009004513130320
Polestar000002602,3002,3002,1002,99900
∑ = 4,209,463∑ = 3,966,620∑ = 4,348,865∑ = 3,376,343∑ = 3,262,977∑ = 3,336,089∑ = 3,451,139∑ = 3,345,816∑ = 3,555,688∑ = 3,593,034∑ = 4,093,471∑ = 1,406,536

AUTOMOTIVE DATA DISCLOSURES​

Important note: Both Ford, GM, and FCA have switched to quarterly reporting, making it more difficult to accurately gauge sales. We won’t have results to report for Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet, GMC, Ford, Lincoln, Jeep, Chrysler, Fiat, Alfa Romeo, Dodge, and Ram until the end of each quarter.
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/ Will UAW Strike? #83  
Don't die on this hill...

Information overload does not work...
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #85  
Just a side note; Tesla is building a new Lithium production facility in Texas--On the Gulf Coast. Close to the water. I guess in case it goes up in flames. :LOL:
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #90  
Profits made by all the Big 3 are only coming from trucks. Buyers smell the blood on the wall that bidenomics is insisting on the phase-out of gasoline & diesel powered vehicles in favor of electrics, so buy now as long as the supply lasts, no matter what the cost. Plus, the automakers have just started to realize that electric vehicles which deliver goods & food won't be able to provide the ranges, amounts & costs of these items and the Public has already figured it out. State & Federal governments have already started the strangulation of gas vehicles by raising gas taxes, AND they know now that excise tax revenue from gas & diesel is falling rapidly, so road & bridge repairs are being cut back. Next will be vehicle taxes based on mileage, not fuel.

Our electric grid is being strangled by electric vehicle charging which will take dozens of years to recover, if ever at all.

GM (insider info) as already written the plans (Strategy Board) to leave the U.S. rather than go thru bankruptcy again. So, it's on to China & India which care more for their citizens employment & happiness than our own government. Mr. Soros's Global Open Boarders funding is working just like it was planned many years ago, (now under the leadership of his son). The morons who assisted setting this in motion will create their own 'Heavens' elsewhere.

Like apples ? How do you like them apples ?
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #91  
Have not been commenting because I know what is going to go down but suffice to say, my 'Insider' information comes directly from Ford corporate in Dearborn, Michigan. Remember who my BIL is.

Far as what transpires with the gummit and their push for EV's, that can all change abruptly with a change in the governing party.

Once again, the UAW will strike (coming soon) and the automakers will basically tell them to pound salt as their demands are totally unrealistic.

back on the side just reading along.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #92  
Just saw on tv they are striking for 46% pay increase, a 3 day work week but paid for 40 hours.

So I guess by next year a base F150 will start at $200,000. LOL
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #93  
Fain must have increased the rate. Last time I checked it was a 40% wage increase, abolishment of the tiered wage system, 36 hour work week paid as 40 and a bunch of other pie-in-the sky BS.

Less than 8 days to go now.

It won't last long because no auto worker I know of can survive on 500 a week strike pay (before taxes)... and NO health and welfare.

My BIL will keep right on working because he's in upper-upper management at Fords. Of course he's not union either.

I'd put down what management thinks about the UAW but I cannot. Privileged information.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #94  
I have always been curious if the UAW will end up like the UMWA back in southern Illinois, grand pa always said the union kept striking, and would eventually turn to brute force. The mines eventually up and closed down their doors. A few months later they reopened as non union, and as soon as any of the new work force even mentioned starting up a union they were walked out.
 
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/ Will UAW Strike? #95  
Current auto unsold, new inventory was up 68%, and over 100 days inventory for vehicles over $50k (currently 103 days for F-series trucks). Can't say Ford is gonna be upset to shut down for 60 days or 90 days. They can't sell expensive inventory, and they can't meet union demands, while making low profit, cheap vehicle. Seems like the manufacturers have the edge. The lovers, either way, is the consumer; either higher prices because failing inventory; or higher prices by paying their ransom.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #96  
I have always been curious if the UAW will end up like the UMWA back in southern Illinois, grand pa always said the union kept striking, and would eventually turn to brute force. The mines eventually up and closed down their doors. A few months later they reopened as non union, and as soon as any of the new work force even mentioned starting up a union they were walked out.
The UMWA didn't have all the politicians on the payroll.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #97  
The UMWA didn't have all the politicians on the payroll.
...and auto workers for the most part are overweight slobs. I know more than one. Most of them (not all) are lazy and do anything not to work, at work.

I used to deliver to auto plants (steel) and I could tell some stories about what I saw. FCA was the worst, followed by GM and then Fords. The foreign automakers that are here, their workers have a different attitude and of course are non union. Always liked delivering to Toyota and Titan Wheel (they make all the Kubota rims and mount their tires on them). Great folks that actually take their jobs seriously and get it done, unlike the Big 3.

Someday I might tell some stories of the grief I had to deal with. Just glad I was paid hourly.

A little tid bit... Chrysler Trenton Engine plant, you had to buy stale doughnuts for 5 bucks each to get the crane operator to unload you and even then he was slower than dirt. Buy the rock hard doughnut and toss it on the railroad track. Great place. Filthy inside too. Housekeeping is non existent. UAW workers don't give a hoot.

How about Fords Rouge stamping. Unload by appointment only and if you were a minute late you sat there all day. Always seemed like they were going on a break and the breaks lasted an hour. What saved my butt at Fiords was my BIL got me a Fords Special Vehicle Operations jacket with my name embroidered on it and when they saw that jacket, they knew I knew someone way up the ladder. You don't get that kind of stuff unless you are connected.

I've spent a lot of time (my own time) at Fords SVO in Dearborn. Pretty interesting place and not just anyone can get in either but I'm connected so it was all good.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #98  
Back in the 70s, I had a trucking customer that was a parts manufacturer for several industrial equipment manufacturers. I delivered several loads of steel there and got to know the receiver pretty well. He was really happy working there, wages were well above average and the owner treated employees like family, great benefits, generous vacation time, big weekend picnic in the summer and lavish Christmas party. But a couple of people who had hired in were trying to get the union in to represent the workers. He was afraid it was going to damage the relationship with the owner and the employees. Sure enough, an election was scheduled to vote on union representation. A couple of days later the owner called everyone to the cafeteria and laid it all out in plain and simple language. He was not going to allow a union to interfere with his operation, and that no employees had ever complained about being mistreated or underpaid, and lastly if the union was voted in, he would immediately close the plant and move the operation to another of his non-union facilities. He said it wasn't a threat, it was a promise and he was a man of his word.
Well the union won the election held on a Friday. Monday when the employees showed up for work, the plant was locked up, and on Tuesday trucks, I was one of them, started hauling the machinery and material to one of his plants in southern Illinois. The receiver was there that day and said several of the employees that had opposed the union had been offered jobs at the Illinois plant with the company paying for moving costs and purchasing their homes at market price so they could relocate with little or no financial loss. He was going to take the offer, said it was the best job he's ever had.
So the moral of the story is be careful what you wish for.
 
/ Will UAW Strike? #100  
I've had two experiences with unions in my life.

Many years ago I worked for the MTO (Ministry of Transportation) in Ontario. They used to do all the highway plowing, sanding and maintenance. Just like the DOT in the States. Was a great place to work. Government job. Nobody worked hard. All kinds of benefits. Good pay.
Then they got greedy and went on strike for more money.
So all the government did was get rid of the whole operation and contracted out. Gone was the good pay to do that job and now we are stuck with crappy road conditions ever since.

Next was I worked for a friend that had the contract for all the wheel loaders in a mill.
A couple employees got the union in and organized, even though a bunch of us wanted no part of it.
The outcome of that one? They all cried afterwards when they found out that after paying their union dues they were now actually taking home even less pay than they were non-union.

I don't know. Maybe unions have some good points, but I only see them as protectors for the lazy people that would otherwise be rightfully fired.
 

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