What is the highest HP Kubota farm tractor made with a Hydro Trans ?

[Brown Dog]

What current model # is the biggest Horsepower farm tractor that Kubota makes with hydrostatic trans option ?

I’d love to have a new M5-111 open station Farm Tractor with a E-Hydro Trans Option.

I use to have a JD 4720 66hp OS with Hydro trans & I fluid filled all 4 tires but it still wasn’t heavy enough or big enough frame size for my application.

 

[Farmer495]

MX6000 I think.

 

[Brown Dog]

MX6000 I think.

I was afraid of that

 

[Farmer495]

I was afraid of that

If you need hydrostatic "like" above 60 HP you may have to go to a CVT transmission.

There was another thread going that said the Fendt 200 series was the smallest with CVT, you had to go 150 HP or so to get it otherwise.

I have Kubota with Hydraulic Shuttle and it works well, no clutching needed, same idea as M5-111

 

[big bubba]

OP: good title question. another related question may be why Kubota M series tractors do not offer hst in their higher HP Utility models... i'll let someone else explain, but i sure do like my manual/ hyd shuttle model, best of both worlds. thankfully my knees are not a problem for shifting. regards

also maybe explain what your tasks are with your hst preference

 

[MtnViewRanch]

What current model # is the biggest Horsepower farm tractor that Kubota makes with hydrostatic trans option ?

I’d love to have a new M5-111 open station Farm Tractor with a E-Hydro Trans Option.

I use to have a JD 4720 66hp OS with Hydro trans & I fluid filled all 4 tires but it still wasn’t heavy enough or big enough frame size for my application.

May I ask, what is your application that you want an M size tractor, weighing x? amount need to be used for??

 

[Brown Dog]

I currently have two JD 5115M open stations & all Four R4 tires 90% fluid filled with 32spd AND creep option which adds 16 speeds under 1mph.
I certainly dont need all 48 speeds but I do need every tenth of a mph UNDER 1mph.

These trans works fantastic in my Commercial Poultry house litter prep work.

Kubota creep option in a 12spd will only get down to .2mph working at 1500rpm & has a pretty big gap between gears.

The Hydro trans will go any speed you need under 1mph.

M6000 isn’t heavy enough tractor imo.

 

[big bubba]

still interested in your specific applications requiring heavy duty hst vs gear (or manual)

 

[Brown Dog]

still interested in your specific applications requiring heavy duty hst vs gear (or manual)

JD Power Reverser trans works great as long as u have 8 or 10 gears under 1mph for Poultry Litter Prep aka caking in poultry houses.

 

[Farmer495]

I currently have two JD 5115M open stations & all Four R4 tires 90% fluid filled with 32spd AND creep option which adds 16 speeds under 1mph.
I certainly dont need all 48 speeds but I do need every tenth of a mph UNDER 1mph.

These trans works fantastic in my Commercial Poultry house litter prep work.

Kubota creep option in a 12spd will only get down to .2mph working at 1500rpm & has a pretty big gap between gears.

The Hydro trans will go any speed you need under 1mph.

M6000 isn’t heavy enough tractor imo.

Needing a low profile tractor certainly limits what will work for you for sure. Not sure if any CVT tractors built would even fit that.

Sounds like Kubota gear drive doesn't have your application in mind.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

What current model # is the biggest Horsepower farm tractor that Kubota makes with hydrostatic trans option ?

Kubota doesn't have any FARM tractors with a hystat tranny.

SR

 

[Brown Dog]

Certain vegetable farming, snow blowing & stump grinding requires these low speeds.

Very few & unique applications.

New JD ML series with the Power8 trans has a creeper gear option but they are Very Expensive & Super Rare being hard to find unless you special order one taking months to come in.

 

[hayden]

I have been going through this same search for several years now, and there is a very unfortunate gap in product offerings between HST tractors which top out around 60-65hp and around 5000 lbs, and tractors with a CVT that start around 100 hp and 11,000 lbs. That's a really big step up in weight and physical size. In between, your only options are manual shift, and a few mixed manual/power shift options. The only thing with full range and gear power shift was the Deere 5R which was only built for a few years ending around 2022. I have driven a couple of them and they are nice, but not the same as an HST or CVT, especially on hilly, uneven terrain.

As noted, Fendt offers the 200 line at around 9500 lbs, so is the smallest available. But so far my interactions with Fendt have been very disappointing. It's been probably 3 weeks of trying to get a PDF manual so I can see what the tractor actually does, how it works, understand ballasting requirements, tread width settings, SVC operations and options, etc. But nobody can produce a manual for me, or tell me how to get one. The latests is that Fendt told me a dealer can order one for me if I want to buy one. I might do that, but I have become concerned about Fendt is other ways lately. There are only two 200s available for sale in the US, and I can't find anyone who owns one. In fact, I can't find anyone in the US who owns a Fendt. I see lots being demoed by YouTubers, but nobody then buys one.

Brian's Farming in Ohio bought or leased a combine, and last I saw it was being trucked off for repairs.

I found a guy in Canada who owns several Fendts and none of them other than the 1000 model will start in the cold, despite block heaters. And if he can get them started they pretty promptly shut down because of DEF issues, and they are constantly throwing error codes. A recent video was of a 500 series being towed onto a trailer and trucked off for replacement of the main wiring harness because it was destroyed by leaking DEF. He loves them when they are working, but he's in the process of switching back to Deere because they never work when he needs them. It gets real cold where I am (-10F currently) so reliable cold weather operation is essential. Now the Fendt 200 uses the Agco 3 cyl engine same as the Massey 4700, so probably different, but I don't want to be the one to find out. I'm just concluding that Fendt would be a massive risk, and I just don't have a lot of patients for stuff that doesn't work.

 

[Brown Dog]

I agree on Fendt not having enough networking or dealers here in the SouthEast USA.
Deutz is the same way.
I wouldn’t dare buy either Simple because of this.

Closest Deutz dealer is 130 miles away over in AL & up in TN.
I don’t even know of a Fendt dealer Here in North GA SMH

 

[rScotty]

Kubota doesn't have any FARM tractors with a hystat tranny.

SR

No, but they do make a tractor built even heavier than a FARM tractor, and it does have a six speed HST. It's the M62 with 6 speed HST+ tranny, weighing in at about 8000 lbs. It's basically a heavily built low profile TLB for medium duty commercial use.
It can be ordered with the 3pt hitch instead of the backhoe.

 

[hayden]

No, but they do make a tractor built even heavier than a FARM tractor, and it does have a six speed HST. It's the M62 with 6 speed HST+ tranny, weighing in at about 8000 lbs. It's basically a heavily built low profile TLB for medium duty commercial use.
It can be ordered with the 3pt hitch instead of the backhoe.

I think it's essentially the same capacity-wise as an L6060. 63 vs 60hp, same HST transmission (3 ranges plug hydraulic hi/lo), and I expect the weight is abotu the same when you consider that the M62 weight includes loader, bucket, and backhoe. If you equipped each similarly, I expect the weight would be about the same.

 

[Brown Dog]

No, but they do make a tractor built even heavier than a FARM tractor, and it does have a six speed HST. It's the M62 with 6 speed HST+ tranny, weighing in at about 8000 lbs. It's basically a heavily built low profile TLB for medium duty commercial use.
It can be ordered with the 3pt hitch instead of the backhoe.

M62 is equivalent frame size wise to a 4k series JD.
Their pretty small & light compared to a JD 5k 4cyl

 

[rScotty]

I think it's essentially the same capacity-wise as an L6060. 63 vs 60hp, same HST transmission (3 ranges plug hydraulic hi/lo), and I expect the weight is abotu the same when you consider that the M62 weight includes loader, bucket, and backhoe. If you equipped each similarly, I expect the weight would be about the same.

No, there is still a 2000 lb difference. Looking at the overall frame construction and the thickness of metal and fastenings will give an idea of were the extra metal was used. The M62 loader lifts nearly twice the weight & the TLB is set up to handle loader stress.
They seem to be differently built, but with a similar engine and transmission.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

I have been going through this same search for several years now, and there is a very unfortunate gap in product offerings between HST tractors which top out around 60-65hp and around 5000 lbs, and tractors with a CVT that start around 100 hp and 11,000 lbs. That's a really big step up in weight and physical size. In between, your only options are manual shift, and a few mixed manual/power shift options. The only thing with full range and gear power shift was the Deere 5R which was only built for a few years ending around 2022. I have driven a couple of them and they are nice, but not the same as an HST or CVT, especially on hilly, uneven terrain.

As noted, Fendt offers the 200 line at around 9500 lbs, so is the smallest available. But so far my interactions with Fendt have been very disappointing. It's been probably 3 weeks of trying to get a PDF manual so I can see what the tractor actually does, how it works, understand ballasting requirements, tread width settings, SVC operations and options, etc. But nobody can produce a manual for me, or tell me how to get one. The latests is that Fendt told me a dealer can order one for me if I want to buy one. I might do that, but I have become concerned about Fendt is other ways lately. There are only two 200s available for sale in the US, and I can't find anyone who owns one. In fact, I can't find anyone in the US who owns a Fendt. I see lots being demoed by YouTubers, but nobody then buys one.

Brian's Farming in Ohio bought or leased a combine, and last I saw it was being trucked off for repairs.

I found a guy in Canada who owns several Fendts and none of them other than the 1000 model will start in the cold, despite block heaters. And if he can get them started they pretty promptly shut down because of DEF issues, and they are constantly throwing error codes. A recent video was of a 500 series being towed onto a trailer and trucked off for replacement of the main wiring harness because it was destroyed by leaking DEF. He loves them when they are working, but he's in the process of switching back to Deere because they never work when he needs them. It gets real cold where I am (-10F currently) so reliable cold weather operation is essential. Now the Fendt 200 uses the Agco 3 cyl engine same as the Massey 4700, so probably different, but I don't want to be the one to find out. I'm just concluding that Fendt would be a massive risk, and I just don't have a lot of patients for stuff that doesn't work.

HUH?, there's three dairy farms just around me that run Fendts on their farms!

SR

 

[Brown Dog]

HUH?, there's three dairy farms just around me that run Fendts on their farms!

SR

He means there isn’t any near Him or know of anybody that has one to go look at or try.
Same thing here for me too.

I’ve seen some at a Ag Show 300 miles South of me a few years ago.

They just dont have the dealer network to support ppl to buy / svc them.

Their more popular thru the mid west with all the big row crop farming.