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I still haven't found much about what makes a cheap(er) power cord able to act as a temporary tent pole tho... Steve
PVC jacket and/or insulation, generally. Any thermoplastic (type SE) is going to get stiff when cold. This is why we prefer type S (eg. SOOW), which is all rubber construction, no thermoplastics.

Type S runs about 3x the cost of type SE, all else being equal.
 
   / welding carts #162  
Type S runs about 3x the cost of type SE, all else being equal.
Yeah, I figured PVC was probably the main culprit - personally I seem to be getting crankier with age (77 so far, fingers crossed) so I MUCH prefer tools/equipment that makes me SMILE when I use it, so I'm willing to PAY for smiles rather than having to invent new swear words :rolleyes:

I've still got a couple of "replacement" power cords that're neoprene jackets, as the crappy cords on tools die they get replaced with good ones. Don't recall where I got 'em, but it's one of my "crappy weather" projects to do... Steve
 
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I'm looking at this extension cord for my welder.

50 foot, 220 Volt Heavy Duty 8/3 Welder Extension Cord for $119

 
   / welding carts #164  
Probably not horrible, but don't let the black cover fool you, it's still PVC so it's doubtful it'll be very flexible in the north - Still, the more desirable choice would likely be at about 3X the cost -


Possible work-around - if you have a shop heater, leaving the cord (coiled) in front of the heater for maybe 1/2 hour before unwinding should make it LESS stiff. Like most things in life, there's no such thing as an EASY choice... Steve
 
   / welding carts #165  
Whats the length of the power cord hardwired into the welder? Cause if it's long enough that's where most of your bending and flexings going to take place in my experience and not on the actual extension cord. It looks like a ok cord made with annealed (heat treated to make it less brittle and more flexible) copper assuming it's stranded. Plus Im assuming your just going to run a fairly straight shot from power supply to welder and won't be wrapping it around and thru a lot of things? Probably wouldn't intentionally drive stuff over it though.
 
   / welding carts #166  
One disadvantage of ebay is lack of buyer reviews for the specific product unless you are buying a name brand with a specific product model number that has reviews on other sites. The other disadvantage is not being to able to return items just because of dissatisfaction with the item if it is not what you expected.
 
   / welding carts #167  
Description says annealed 30 ga. copper, so that part shoudn't contribute to stiffness - and I agree, if there won't be a lot of coiling/uncoiling the pvc sheath wouldn't matter as much.

Ebay - my limited experience has run about 70% ok, so that's usually my LAST choice... Steve
 
   / welding carts #168  
I'm looking at this extension cord for my welder.

50 foot, 220 Volt Heavy Duty 8/3 Welder Extension Cord for $119

Yup, I bought same one off Ebay in 2021, same vendor. It was $109.99 at the time. I've only used it a few times, but it works just fine. I store it in a loose loop.
 
   / welding carts #169  
Loose loops are always better, it's stress reversals that shorten the life of anything. Being a packrat with 10 acres to hide/hoard stuff, I have quite a few 25,50 and 100' extension cords, nearly all are 12 ga. - one of my "tuit" projects is a heavy powered slip roll (bought off CL, sorta working but needs TLC) - until that "tuit" comes around I started using these for hangers -


That particular one is 12 ga. steel, so not as flimsy as some. I have just over 5' reach from hand to hand, so that's my normal loop size winding cords (makes about a 28" diameter loop.)

The fairly large radius of the garden hose hangers eliminates small radius loops from causing problems.

The dual tank running gear on my MM252 mig has ONE large radius hanger built in, but I got tired of having ground, torch and spool gun on the same hanger - my fix was one of those reels and a couple of scraps of square tube, mounted on the opposite side of the welder - the spool gun lives on the new hanger, so it's out of the way but always available.

Even the non-industrial long extensions like the relaxed storage; the stiffness is still a little noticeable, but not as much... Steve
 
   / welding carts #170  
PVC jacket and/or insulation, generally. Any thermoplastic (type SE) is going to get stiff when cold. This is why we prefer type S (eg. SOOW), which is all rubber construction, no thermoplastics.

Type S runs about 3x the cost of type SE, all else being equal.
Has other advantages.
 

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