Trailering B2650HSDC

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Farmall45b

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White Bear Lake, Minnesota
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2014 Kubota B2650 HSD Cab
I am wondering if anyone on here is trailering their B2650HSDC on a single axle trailer. I am looking at a PJ U7 with 5200# axle, 14 foot in length. I do not plan to trailer the tractor often, maybe once every couple of years, the primary use of the trailer is other utility purposes. I know that trailer will handle the tractor weight wise, I am just wondering if I will be able to position the tractor on the 14 foot trailer to distribute the weight correctly to the axle and tongue.

Thanks in advance.
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #2  
I am looking at a PJ U7 with 5200# axle, 14 foot in length... I know that trailer will handle the tractor weight wise

Out of curiosity, I looked up the specs on this trailer and wanted to point out a couple of items just to make certain you don't regret something later. It's also very possible the published data is wrong or incomplete. I always like to make 100% certain the facts are correct before paying $'s.

Please reference the attachments.

1. Are you certain you can get the higher capacity axles in the U7? They appear to only be an option on the U8.

2. Not certain how you define "I know the trailer can handle the weight", but it appears the standard U7 does not have enough capacity to handle the 2650 cab as the weight limit is exceeded. Assuming stronger axles are an option (see 1 above) does the rated capacity also go up? I'm guessing the registered weight class would have to go up also and this will dictate the legal weight limits. Is the published usable capacity based on axle rating or chassis design? The base 2650 cab weighs 2293 lbs without any implements.

Don't take any salesperson's word... Get it in writing!


I'm not saying your wrong, but I felt obligated to point out there is conflicting published info. I like to know that I'm within specs/laws to minimize liability should something go wrong.
 

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/ Trailering B2650HSDC #3  
One other thing you want to be sure of is if the ramp can handle the weight of the tractor. Just because the trailer will haul the weight, that doesn't mean you can place all that weight on the trailer gate at one time as you are pulling on and off. A lot of folks I see with trailers, used for tractors, have slide-in ramps.... just a thought. :confused3:
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #4  
I would never haul a B or bigger sized tractor with FEL and maybe other implements on a single axle trailer except in an emergency. I'd sweat every foot of the trip. I asked around before buying my first trailer over 10 years ago and got lots of advise and then I called my BIL that has hauled tractors and heavy equipment all over for years and he advised double axle only because one tire flat or blowing out on a single axle can have you in deep dookey quickly and stranded in the middle of traffic at best. I've hauled a BX2650 FEL, non cab on my 16' double axle and it felt right and haul a L3901 on the same trailer and it seems at it's limit. My Gatormade has two 3500 lb axles and the trailer weighs about 1000 lbs so gives me 6000 lbs of hauling capacity. How much more for a dual axle and what is piece of mind worth to you? I also had to reinforce the gate on a previous trailer since loading the tractor bent it. :2cents:
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #5  
Truck $30K-$60K, tractor $20K-$30K, trailer $3K-$5K. The trailer is the cheapest part. Why risk loss or damage to the other two trying to save a little on the trailer. Get a sturdy 2 axle with ramps and brakes. Then you don't have to worry every time you haul somewhere.
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #6  
What they said and...........get at least a 16 footer.....not 14 footer.
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #7  
And taking a light duty (frame) trailer like that and replacing the 3500lb axle with a 5000lb axle does not make it a heavy duty trailer. Trailers are relatively inexpensive, buy a quality trailer now with room for future growth. You'll save $ in the long run.
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #8  
And taking a light duty (frame) trailer like that and replacing the 3500lb axle with a 5000lb axle does not make it a heavy duty trailer. Trailers are relatively inexpensive, buy a quality trailer now with room for future growth. You'll save $ in the long run.

I agree. I bought a 7000 pound capacity dual axle trailer for my little Kbota BX 25!
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #9  
I know your original inquiry was to see if someone out here has direct personal experience hauling a B2650HSDC on a single axle trailer, details to be confirmed. You will of course get a lot more in free advice... I may have a data point for you and then a few free of charge comments like the rest.

1) I use a Stage Coach brand 14' trailer to haul either of two B2150 tractors I have. One has liquid filled tires. One has a FEL. One has twin 6" spacers between the rear wheels. Bought the trailer new with heavier axle and wheels, etc. using a 5200 lb axle, 6 lug tires, etc. Your tractor is about 400lb heavier than mine but there is no realistic question that this trailer would be more than adequate for hauling a B2650. Comfortably. Features I really like about the StageCoach model I bought are: Small beavertail which results in a short ramp which results in super easy loading. Also for old men like me it means the ramp is MUCH lighter and easier to handle. Strong pipe type side rails. Nice tie down spots built in. Protected lights and protected wiring. Mesh sides that allow me to haul the wife's mulch without adding ugly plywood sides, etc.

2) All that said there are a lot of considerations and issues (including the ideas mentioned by others.) I'll list what I think matters for you.

-- Is this the only trailer you have in case you want to haul the tractor AND implements like a bush hog etc ?
-- What do you pull with ? Plenty of beef or is a small trailer better ?
-- You said "I do not plan to trailer the tractor often, maybe once every couple of years, the primary use of the trailer is other utility purposes." I think that says a lot about your application -- just being able to move the B2650 once in a while and MAINLY use the trailer for general purpose utility applications. That leans strongly toward the smaller trailer with a beefed up axle to be on the safe side. You have no real need for anything longer than 14 ft. You have no known need for anything with more load capacity.
-- Is this in the context of a country home with 3 acres, a small 50 acre farm with several implements around or a side issue in a big operation of some sort ?
-- You have to figure for yourself what is the best match for you of course but ...
- smaller trailers are easier to maneuver, esp. by hand. Also to store.
- Being a trailer with sides, make sure you have plenty of width for all cases (belly mowers for example tend to surprise people on width needed)
- You have no need for trailer brakes on that size machine or trailer. Unless you have much heavier things to haul that would be both extra expense and needless bother.
3) You pose a very interesting question about length and space to load the tractor to get the desired tongue weight -- I have found a surprising (and never explained by the manufacturers) difference among trailers in terms of where the axle or axles are placed relative to the long dimension of the trailer. Some have the axle/axles very far to the back and others more to the middle of the load bed. In my opinion you will have no trouble getting optimum tongue weight using a 14ft trailer. Your entire tractor is only 8' 5" long so it will be no problem to get the c.g. of the tractor well forward of the axle no matter whether the axle is mid-bed length or further back. Notice in the picture below of my trailer, it happens to have the axle more towards the rear rather than mid deck. That makes adjusting tongue weight quick/easy.

All those things thrown out there, it depends so much on your individual situation. I have yet to build a building that I didn't end up wishing it was bigger.
I suppose by now we have worse than overkilled your question. Good luck .


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/ Trailering B2650HSDC #12  
Just out of curiosity anyone have thoughts on length for FEL with the BH77 on the 2650?
I am thinking 16' will be minimum?
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #13  
How is the tractor going to be outfitted when you're going to be hauling it? Loader, loaded tires, other attachments? How far are you going to be hauling it the few times you do and what is the tow vehicle?
 
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Just out of curiosity anyone have thoughts on length for FEL with the BH77 on the 2650?
I am thinking 16' will be minimum?
14' 7" if you twist the BH hard into the rubber bump stop to the side. In a 7'x14' you can not get it sideways completely, and you'll need the loader bucket out by your truck. If you jack knife at all, the loader comes through your truck bed corner

I use a 25' equipment trailer on dual 7,000 lb axles with 4 brakes. I wouldn't ever want less. I'm registered at 9,950 lbs to eliminate combination plates and all of the legal trash that goes along with pulling heavy

My B2650 is around 1,900 lbs, around 800 lbs in the tires, around 800 lbs in loader, around 800 lbs in backhoe, around 350 lbs in the Titan 60" box blade and around 450 lbs in the 72" rear grader blade. That is around 5,100 lbs not including chains and binders. Let's say 5,200 lbs. My trailer is 2,800 lbs bare, so I'm at 8,000 gross, but assume around 10% or 800 lbs transfer off of the trailer to the truck, do now at 7,200 on the trailer.

I'm doing pretty good by weight, but the 25' can get really tight, really fast. My next trailer, should I ever buy one, will be at least a 30' or 32'. Length is no harder to pull, longer backs easier, longer for more... Easier. I would always rather have more trailer than I need than needed more trailer than I have.

I hate the 7'x14' 14,000 GVW dump trailer, it needs to be 25 feet long to be useful. Can't bring additional implements with the dump, it's a one trick pony and screws me every time. Really chaps my butt. I have to call my father to get one trailer while I pull the other.... Short trailers suck horribly.

TLB with the box blade and the rear grader blade.... Things are tight.IMG_20180112_151610772_HDR.jpg3657.jpeg3658.jpeg3663.jpegIMG_20180217_155014644_HDR.jpgIMG_20180217_155032914.jpgIMG_20180218_083728006_HDR.jpg
 
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Hi,

I just went through this in September when I needed to move a used/basically new TC24DA New Holland with NIB 914A MMM from Scranton, Pa back to Maine. I ended up using one of the 5K single 7x12 red Cary On rental trailers from Tractor Supply behind my Nissan Xterra. Last week I purchased a 2018 Misson/Cargo Pro 6.5x16 aluminum tandem landscape. The trailer is a 6k rated unit with brakes on both axles and weighs 1350 lbs. I would think it would be perfect for your tractor as well. When I made the trip to PA I looked closely at all weights and DOT regulations even though it is not a commercial vehicle or registered with commercial plates. Some states have weight regulations for passenger vehicles that require you to stop at weigh stations or subject you to routine CMV roadside weight checks like PA does. It helps to have friends in Commercial enforcement of the State Police and we studied this deal hard before I did it. The trailer I bought will reduce some of the tongue weight and allow for better positioning of the machine which weighs 3125lbs. I will not move it again w/o a tandem especially 500 miles if for no other reason than it is hard on leaf springs so I am adding a leaf and re combering the new spring assys to add 500lb of tongue weight even though I don't really need it now. The trailer with PT decking, silver mod power coat rims w/ radials and brakes on both axles was $3800.00 or so.

Brian
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #17  
Just out of curiosity anyone have thoughts on length for FEL with the BH77 on the 2650?
I am thinking 16' will be minimum?

If you want the ability to position for proper balance and tongue weight, I'd say 18-20' minimum. I know when I hauled a B on a 16' trailer, if I had an implement on the back end, I barely had enough deck length to get balanced.
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #18  
Since it's a cab tractor the BH will be pushed even further back so it'll be longer then rockcrawlers measurements.

I don't think a 14ft is going to be adaquate, 16 would be bare minimum with an 18-20 being comfortable. With the shorter trailer you might have to back on to get enough tongue weight depending on axle placement.

You have a big enough truck that you can get by with a single axle, will just be less forgiving of load placement and I would suggest a 6 or 7k axle for a little more margin.

If you're only going a few miles on secondary roads you can get by with a smaller trailer sometimes but I wouldn't want to do it for any distance.
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #19  
Loaded tires, BH77 with Fel. 2001 3/4 HD with 8.1l engine.
Sorry just realized you weren't the OP so not sure if you have the cab or not.

To the OP how is your tractor going to be equipped when transporting and how long is the trip?
 
/ Trailering B2650HSDC #20  
Ya that is definitely bigger than I was hoping to go. The dream list is to have a dumping trailer that I can use to move the 2650 with and have the ability to load and move materials, a 20' is going to be on the pricy side.
 

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