Trailer for an L3400
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pitt_md
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The tandom axel trailer looks nice but i could not find any mention of brakes.
I think your truck would pull it fine but like another post said you NEED trailer brakes.
buck12
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If I were in your shoes I would strongly consider a 18' trailer at a minimum . I have a Mahindra 2615 similar in size to your 3400. My 18' trailer is short when towing with the rotary cutter. Just food for thought.
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careyo63
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My trailer is 20ft. just a little over 2ft. is the dove tail. My CUT. fits great with extra room. If I need to move my 8n or the ym2500 with the bush hog attached I have to remove the back rail/gate and use the length of the dovetail for the implement. If it was me and was only getting a flat deck I would get nothing smaller than 20'. Alot of times the tractor is not the only thing I have loaded or needs to be moved.I also prefer the wood side rails instead of metal. I have found having removeable rails come in handy loading things. Esp. with a fork lift or being able to load from the sides. My scale weight is 1920 LBS. it's well made the dual brakes makes a nice option.
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wushaw
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I have an 08 Tacoma manual, 4X4 and a 20' bigtex car hauler. My numbers would be 2600 tractor, 900 loader, 500 loaded tires, 830 BB, 2200 trailer coming to 7030. I would be 530lbs over the Tacos tow rating and 30lbs over the trailer rating.
I have a different truck to tow my L2800 in this configuration when I need to so the only thing I would be doing is over grossing the trailer by 30lbs.
I haven't towed anything over 4000 lbs with the Taco yet so I don't know how it acts with anything heavier and I do have a brake controller.
Just be sure you install a brake controller and watch your weights, also if you still have the three leaf pack you may not like how it will squat, there is a TSB (don't know on 2010 years but 05-09) for harsh ride with weight, basically you go from a three leaf pack to a four to carry the weight.
I have a different truck to tow my L2800 in this configuration when I need to so the only thing I would be doing is over grossing the trailer by 30lbs.
I haven't towed anything over 4000 lbs with the Taco yet so I don't know how it acts with anything heavier and I do have a brake controller.
Just be sure you install a brake controller and watch your weights, also if you still have the three leaf pack you may not like how it will squat, there is a TSB (don't know on 2010 years but 05-09) for harsh ride with weight, basically you go from a three leaf pack to a four to carry the weight.
I have a L3400 HST and a 16 foot tandem axle trailer (7K rated). My 2003 Chevrolet 1500 (5.3L with auto) pulls the tractor just fine on flat ground. The tractor and box blade fit completely on the trailer and my FEL sits at the very front of the trailer flat and firm. The truck has plenty of stopping power.
If I bring the mower it will stick off the back of the trailer a few feet, no big deal.
Remember, with trailer brakes, it's one more thing to keep up. I think you are fine without them, unless you are towing heavily.
Good luck.
If I bring the mower it will stick off the back of the trailer a few feet, no big deal.
Remember, with trailer brakes, it's one more thing to keep up. I think you are fine without them, unless you are towing heavily.
Good luck.
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You are clueless of the law. In Texas you are required to have brakes on any trailer over 4,500#. Get your rig legal or if you get in a accident you will be at fault.
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RobertN
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Wow! I am glad you were not on the road near me when I was in Texas a few months ago(I hope...).
Let's see you stop when that deer runs in front of you. Or that kid on the bicycle. Or the kid chasing a ball. A blowout on your truck. Or, in my case, the little white Honda cuts you off and hits the brakes...
I trailered my tractor on a borrowed trailer once. Was running 55mph when this little Honda cuts me off bad, and tags the brakes so it could catch an exit. Well, the brakes didn't work that time on that borrowed trailer.
It pushed my 3/4 ton a lot. Fortunately, I was on a straightaway; if on a curve I think it would have jack knifed me. As it was, my anti-locks were working overtime for a few moments.
5500lbs+ is a lot to tow with no brakes, no matter what size pickup. I'm looking at those L3400's to buy; now way I would tow it without brakes on the trailer.
I'm guessing as long as you don't need to worry about brakes, you don't inspect/grease the trailer bearings either?
Let's see you stop when that deer runs in front of you. Or that kid on the bicycle. Or the kid chasing a ball. A blowout on your truck. Or, in my case, the little white Honda cuts you off and hits the brakes...
I trailered my tractor on a borrowed trailer once. Was running 55mph when this little Honda cuts me off bad, and tags the brakes so it could catch an exit. Well, the brakes didn't work that time on that borrowed trailer.
It pushed my 3/4 ton a lot. Fortunately, I was on a straightaway; if on a curve I think it would have jack knifed me. As it was, my anti-locks were working overtime for a few moments.
5500lbs+ is a lot to tow with no brakes, no matter what size pickup. I'm looking at those L3400's to buy; now way I would tow it without brakes on the trailer.
I'm guessing as long as you don't need to worry about brakes, you don't inspect/grease the trailer bearings either?
RobertN
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My aunt hit a deer in her mini-van a few years ago. Did a job on the frontend.
When she got home, my Uncle did not even look at the front; he went and opened up the back so he could start getting the deer ready to butcher. He was upset my Aunt did not bring the deer home
When she got home, my Uncle did not even look at the front; he went and opened up the back so he could start getting the deer ready to butcher. He was upset my Aunt did not bring the deer home
wushaw
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Your towing something that weighs more than the trruck pulling it and you do not consider that heavy?
Well, I just checked this thread and I see I am being blasted.
I guess I need to do what most people do and run down and buy me a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel motor. Yep, that is exactly what I need to pull my trailer the three or four miles every year or two and maybe the occassional lawn-mower or a few square bales. That is exactly what I need so that I will fit in at the mall with all the other urban cowboys.
Give me a break. The tractor weighs 2600 lbs. I do not have loaded tires. I do not know exactly what the boxblade/FEL weighs but I am well within my vehicles capability. I don't really see what the weight of my vehicle has to do with it either in this case, the vehicle braking capability is the most important factor. I guess those new 1/2 tons they are advertising with an 11,000 # towing capacity are the ticket.
I would never do anything that I felt was unsafe or overload a vehicle. If you think that a modern 1/2 PICK-UP TRUCK is not worthy of doing what it was designed to do then I just don't know what else to say.
I guess I need to do what most people do and run down and buy me a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel motor. Yep, that is exactly what I need to pull my trailer the three or four miles every year or two and maybe the occassional lawn-mower or a few square bales. That is exactly what I need so that I will fit in at the mall with all the other urban cowboys.
Give me a break. The tractor weighs 2600 lbs. I do not have loaded tires. I do not know exactly what the boxblade/FEL weighs but I am well within my vehicles capability. I don't really see what the weight of my vehicle has to do with it either in this case, the vehicle braking capability is the most important factor. I guess those new 1/2 tons they are advertising with an 11,000 # towing capacity are the ticket.
I would never do anything that I felt was unsafe or overload a vehicle. If you think that a modern 1/2 PICK-UP TRUCK is not worthy of doing what it was designed to do then I just don't know what else to say.
BTW: I'm glad you can lecture me on safety seeing as how you put an unmanned vehicle in gear to pull a tractor out of the mud. Are you going to give classes on how to operate unmanned machinery?
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Well, I just checked this thread and I see I am being blasted.
I guess I need to do what most people do and run down and buy me a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel motor. Yep, that is exactly what I need to pull my trailer the three or four miles every year or two and maybe the occassional lawn-mower or a few square bales. That is exactly what I need so that I will fit in at the mall with all the other urban cowboys.
Give me a break. The tractor weighs 2600 lbs. I do not have loaded tires. I do not know exactly what the boxblade/FEL weighs but I am well within my vehicles capability. I don't really see what the weight of my vehicle has to do with it either in this case, the vehicle braking capability is the most important factor. I guess those new 1/2 tons they are advertising with an 11,000 # towing capacity are the ticket.
I would never do anything that I felt was unsafe or overload a vehicle. If you think that a modern 1/2 PICK-UP TRUCK is not worthy of doing what it was designed to do then I just don't know what else to say.
I know I was not telling you a 1/2 ton truck could not do the job. I have a very capable 1/2 ton truck and have owned a 1/2 ton truck along with 2 3/4 tons and 3 1 tons since 1997. What we are saying is your trailer need brakes. You can get a kit to put on your trailer for around $200 and it will keep you legal and and away from jurisdiction if the worst ever happens.
I am a trailer dealer. I go through this all the time but will admit I have never seen the absolute worst happen, just lots of close calls and a few bent trailers and trucks.
Chris
RobertN
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You can tow that load with a 1/2 ton.
My point simply is brakes. "I" would not tow the load without brakes, even if it is legal in your state.
My point above; as I noted I have been in a "stop or I'm hitting the guy in the little Honda that just cut me off" situation. My 3/4 ton barely did it. With a lighter tractor on the trailer. The brakes on that borrowed trailer were marginal at best, but bad when a wire came loose...
I would tow the load stated in this thread with a 1/2 ton. And... I would have working trailer brakes. In case that little white Honda cuts you off. Or, a little 5 year old kid chases a ball in to the road...
My point simply is brakes. "I" would not tow the load without brakes, even if it is legal in your state.
My point above; as I noted I have been in a "stop or I'm hitting the guy in the little Honda that just cut me off" situation. My 3/4 ton barely did it. With a lighter tractor on the trailer. The brakes on that borrowed trailer were marginal at best, but bad when a wire came loose...
I would tow the load stated in this thread with a 1/2 ton. And... I would have working trailer brakes. In case that little white Honda cuts you off. Or, a little 5 year old kid chases a ball in to the road...
Well, I just checked this thread and I see I am being blasted.
I guess I need to do what most people do and run down and buy me a 3/4 ton truck with a diesel motor.
buck12
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Goose I tow a similar load with a 1/2 ton and as you and others have said the truck is more than capable. I pulled this setup without brakes a couple of times before buying a new truck with a brake controller. After experiencing the difference that trailer brakes make I will never tow that kind of load without trailer brakes. Even if its legal to tow the load without trailer brakes I think I owe to others on the road, my family, and myself to be as safe as possible.
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For the 2009 Silverado trucks Chevrolet disagrees with you (if you look in your manual you will probably find a similar statement, but I could not find a 2003 Silverado manual online). On page 4-67 of the 2009 Silverado Owners Manual (PDF page 397) it says:
As for your disdain for trailer brakes
I agree that you are fine without them if you are not towing heavily. however, I define "towing heavily" as pulling anything more than a 3000# single axle trailer.
You owe it to the other people on the road to have working brakes on a trailer that weighs more than 3500#. The life you save may be your own.
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Well said and totally agree. Jim
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