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Eagleview

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I was going to build my own mulcher a couple of years back but got side tracked . I was looking for an excavator track frame for the base , I ended up buying a new 23 tonne excavator that I was going to dismantle as the donor but couldn't bring myself to do it and have been using as is . The search is on again now , today after much searching I bought a major component for the project . A fully glazed and trimmed cabin . I now need a 500 odd horse power donor truck I can pinch the engine and transmission out of . I am still wanting to have the cruise control working so that as the head loads up , the ECU will pour on some more power . I just won this 2 acre job for $6,600 but will have to do it with the excavator and tractor . I am hoping this new beast will be able to do this type of job in a day and create a good income . This will take a while as waiting for the right parts to come along takes time .
 

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/ Self built mulcher . #2  
With mulcher math applied, will your 2 acre job require 2 hours or 65? :)

How large of a head are planning for your new machine? Won't using an ex bottom end give you an undesireable travel speed?
 
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With the machinery I have , it will take 2-3 days as there is a lot of matter in those shrubs to contend with . I expect in the real world that it will take 1 day in the track mulcher to do the same task . I plan to build the head to be within the 2500mm/8' 2 1/2" overall width limit so it can be carried on my truck without flags and flashing lights . It will end up being about 2300mm cut . The excavator track base has infinite travel speed up to 4.5 kilometres per hour so will be fine . The only thing i'm not happy with is that an excavator does not have walking track frames . I have now decided on a forward/reverse Twin Disc marine gearbox bolted straight to the engine , it is rated at 600hp and will allow the rotor to spin both ways . I just bought a crate of 200 , 3.5 kilogram double edge hammers for the project , there will be 31 on the rotor . I can spin the rotor top forward to fall a tree and then bottom forward to mulch it . I have just found a near new Cummins Red Head motor rated @ 525hp , I need to find out how heavy it is before I buy it . I don't need that much hp , but it will allow me to mulch economically at 1300 revs as it makes 1550ftlb of torque at those revs .

The 2 acres starts at the edge of the grass line and goes down to the power lines and is a fairly narrow strip .
 

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A photo of the cabin I picked up from Brisbane today for anyone who might be interested in the project .

I ended up buying two , one as spare .

Ive settled on a new track base from a 14 tonne/ton class excavator with rubber track pads and a blade . The blade will be cut off and the mulcher will adapt to the arms . As it is a PTO drive system , the lift height the arms will give will be adequate .
 

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/ Self built mulcher . #5  
Quite an undertaking... very interested to see how your project goes along. How about a look at the base?

Would help me to visualize how this thing is gonna come together!

AKfish
 
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Just after the invention of the internal combustion engine... this is the "Iron Horse" I used to ride --

These pics were taken 25-26 years ago. We cleared about 2,700 acres over a 2-winter period.

AKfish
 

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Here's a few more -- if you squint and look hard -- you can see the white caps breaking on the Great Barrier Reef!!! :D :D

AKfish
 

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/ Self built mulcher . #8  
Just after the invention of the internal combustion engine... this is the "Iron Horse" I used to ride --

These pics were taken 25-26 years ago. We cleared about 2,700 acres over a 2-winter period.

AKfish

so how does the thing work? do you just push over the tree or what?
 
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so how does the thing work? do you just push over the tree or what?

Don't want to get off track here ---

Just thought that Iron Horse might appreciate a look a some "prehistoric land clearing".

But, yes, that's what the heavy bar up near the cab is for - the machine is very heavy +40 tons and very long - ~45ft and would push over every tree and many times 7-8 at once.

AKfish
 
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Just after the invention of the internal combustion engine... this is the "Iron Horse" I used to ride --

These pics were taken 25-26 years ago. We cleared about 2,700 acres over a 2-winter period.

AKfish

What were you clearing it for? Oil exploration? Pipe line?
 
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Don't want to get off track here ---

Just thought that Iron Horse might appreciate a look a some "prehistoric land clearing".

But, yes, that's what the heavy bar up near the cab is for - the machine is very heavy +40 tons and very long - ~45ft and would push over every tree and many times 7-8 at once.

AKfish
Then just drive over them repeatedly to turn into mulch?
 
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A photo of the cabin I picked up from Brisbane today for anyone who might be interested in the project .

I ended up buying two , one as spare .

Ive settled on a new track base from a 14 tonne/ton class excavator with rubber track pads and a blade . The blade will be cut off and the mulcher will adapt to the arms . As it is a PTO drive system , the lift height the arms will give will be adequate .

Replacing the rubber right away? It does seem like mulching would be a high stress environment for the rubber. Have you started fabbing yet? Powerplant choice?
 
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Rubber track pads are bolted to the steel track plates so the machine can be driver over paved roads without the risk of damage to the surface . As the machine will be working on roadsides , having to screw around the guide posts to miss them and back onto the verge to continue mulching etc .

I am also toying with the idea of fitting a 3.5 ton/tonne excavator arm to the right side with a hydraulic flail mower so I can mow the embankments at the same time .

AKfish , as the cabin I bought is very similar to the one on the PT400 pictured , and the engine covers and cab frame will be the same , it will end up looking pretty much the same .

The tree crusher you posted would have it's place as just a quick knock down and a match a few weeks later would clear big areas of forest to prevent wild fires reaching the canopy .

Recieved emails from 3 machine wreckers this morning , "sorry no track bases available" .
 

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/ Self built mulcher . #14  
Iron Horse I can't help but wonder what you do with all your spare time?:eek: Sure hope you will keep us posted with weekly updates as you begin your build. Way, way above my level so I enjoy watching.

AKfish, I've never seen a machine like that before. It had to be a trip to drive. Does it have a name?

MarkV
 
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Iron Horse I can't help but wonder what you do with all your spare time?:eek: Sure hope you will keep us posted with weekly updates as you begin your build. Way, way above my level so I enjoy watching.

AKfish, I've never seen a machine like that before. It had to be a trip to drive. Does it have a name?

MarkV

Way beyond something I'd tackle as well!

(Maybe he'll be able to patent his creation and SAVE all those poor souls that are suffering with their ASV's!!!!) :rolleyes:

It's a Le Tourneau tree crusher. DC electric motors in each wheel (100hp front and 125hp rear wheel). DC electric motor for steering. 8-71 GMC diesel powering a very large DC generator! The company was (still is, I think) pretty well known for large mining equipment.

It would clear (and crush) that 2 acre parcel before lunch time. :D But, it wouldn't be very pretty... As Iron Horse mentioned; the downed trees, etc. would be burned over sometime later after crushing.

It was a kick to run - nothing would even begin to stop it. But, as you might imagine from looking at those wheels; rocky hillsides and large (frozen) stumps and steep hills were a challange. Slip, slip; slide away and pound, pound jar your teeth out!!

One guy rolled his machine the year after I left the project; he wasn't seriously hurt and replacing the cab was about all that was needed to get the thing back in action. Everything on those things was herky, heavy, and hard wearing..

AKfish
 
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Yes I can imagine those wheels slipping off greasy logs and hitting the ground . You wouldn't try having a cup of coffee whilst driving it .

I'm going to Brisbane in two weeks to try and buy this truck , it is a late model with very low mileage . Was a garbage truck so has had an easy life . It has everything I need for the project . I will swap everything into the mulcher . It even has cruise control which will monitor the PTO shaft to keep the ISC Cummins engine humming . If I can get it at the right price , the only other thing I will need is the track base which is proving difficult to find . The air seat , air con , dash , computer , Allison auto , exhaust and air cleaner etc will all be used . The same as I did with my F truck conversion . I am waiting on a quote for a track base with oscillating tracks from a company in India who supply CAT with their undercarriages .

I'm going to keep the size of the machine down to about a PT200 now as the excavator can handle the bigger trees so the 280hp of the Cummins will be fine .
 

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/ Self built mulcher . #17  
To get temporally off track again (while you're looking for parts), here's the big brother to the tricycle version of the tree crusher, 175 ton machine: Tree Crusher
 
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I was thinking today , what am I going to do for an engine hood ? Just checked my emails a minute ago and the company I bought the cabins off had sent some photos of a Loader hood I may be interested in......Just now finished doing a bank transfer so I did not miss out . It's even painted the same colours as my excavator , how goods that . All I need now is a bit of luck at the truck auction and a reply about the track base .
 

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You're on a roll!! Very good turn of events! (They might just GIVE you that garbage truck, now. :D)

AKfish
 
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What a huge undertaking for your self. How much do you think being the component assembler will save? Here's to hoping the rest of your adventure will go as well :)
 
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