Security & Theft Securing tractor from theft

[Kendrick]

Sound I still have yet to get a comment from you about my solution. a bouncing betty style paint/sound/teargas mine under the bucket. another similer device in the cab to spray the guy if they forget to turn off the inside one...

lojack/cell heartbeet = good 2ndary

 

[Soundguy]

While a permanent dye/paint marker system like a bank may use would mark the target.. I have a feeling the tear gas would be a violation of law.. even though it is non lethat in most cases.. there are limits to the legalities of booby-traps.. etc.

soundguy

 

[Egon]

Robin Hood and His Merry Men!

 

[Soundguy]

I knew there was a silver lining in that message somewhere!

( good post by the way.. )

soundguy

Although there might be a brief period of thieves getting dispatched with great frequency, Pat

 

[YukonKing]

Dogs,

Big yard no fence, 3 dogs, No problems yet. Other Ideas. Live in the Yukon, I own one of maybe 50 working tractors within a 100 mile radius. And to my knowledge only one of 2 Jinmas. To steel it would like painting your face blue and waiting on main street.

Population of Yukon Canada is about 35000 people.

If you steel you get caught. Period

YukonKing

 

[gemini5362]

Dogs,

Big yard no fence, 3 dogs, No problems yet. Other Ideas. Live in the Yukon, I own one of maybe 50 working tractors within a 100 mile radius. And to my knowledge only one of 2 Jinmas. To steel it would like painting your face blue and waiting on main street.

Population of Yukon Canada is about 35000 people.

If you steel you get caught. Period

YukonKing

I was in alaska two weeks ago and one of trips we took we went into canada about 12 or 15 miles from the Yukon. I would think that buy the time you paid for fuel to get to the yukon you could buy a good used tractor for the fuel bill.

 

[davo727]

Reading this thread and the other one regarding vacant property, and thinking about ways to prevent entry to a locked container. Heavy steel plates ( boxes) covering hinges and locks, heavy steel crossbar across both doors and add a coating of something on the outside and inside of the plates and bar to prevent successful cutting with a cutting torch or grinder. Think - Reactive Armor.

Im not going to detail any severe methods that might be utilized but some milder forms could be coating the inside and outside of the plates with epoxy resin and then a thick rubber coating such as truck bedliner or undercoating so that any attempts to cut it will result in large amounts of noxious fumes and smoke which I would think would cause anyone to give up , unless they showed up with a torch and a firesuit and supplied air respirator.

 

[Soundguy]

You could encase the thing in a concrete dome and make it safer.. but all that adds to difficulty for the owner too. All them heavy beefy crossbars and extra big hinges and stuff gonna move real good with an inch of truck bedliner clinging to it.. my guess is the latch mechanism won't work at all..

soundguy

 

[Egon]

Forget all about the encasement systems. Set up a tracer system so you can find it whenever you wish.

And then set up up two more if the first one is found.

Actually you set one up that is easy to find, the next is a little more complicated but the third is very well hid!

 

[gemini5362]

My tractor insurance is about 150.00 a year. How many years of those payments will the cost of some of these schemes cost ?

 

[Soundguy]

Exactly.. 2000-3000$ of space age notification and satalite tracking and super-human prevention methods start tipping the practicality way over the line..

soundguy

 

[patrick_g]

My tractor insurance is about 150.00 a year. How many years of those payments will the cost of some of these schemes cost ?

Right on, Thomas. Of course to be entirely fair you need to consider your deductible, any loss of use issues, and the fact that the insurance company probably isn't going to deliver a shiny Montana to your driveway but just mail a check. You will have to invest time in the replacement process. What all this is worth can be different for different folks.

I agree with your basic economic assumptions which are not invalidated by my comments.

The most bang for the buck is not a system that makes theft impossible. It is a system that makes your tractor enough harder to take than the other guy's and or yours enough hassle to give the thief pause to consider.

I still assert that my anti theft "alarm wire system" is an awful lot of bang for the buck BUT unfortunately is only practical if your normal parking location is near a monitored alarm system (your house or whatever.) Although remoting that protection up to a thousand feet or so is not much of a technical challenge, distances commonly discussed in miles runs the cost up considerably AND could quickly succumb to your cost/benefit comments.

These days we should be glad if no one strips the copper wire off our tractors or siphons the fuel given the costs.

Pat

 

[Soundguy]

There you go.. drilling the tractor fuel tank to get that 20g of diesel.. at todays price.. that's like 100$ ..

soundguy

 

[RobJ]

Im not going to detail any severe methods that might be utilized but some milder forms could be coating the inside and outside of the plates with epoxy resin and then a thick rubber coating such as truck bedliner or undercoating so that any attempts to cut it will result in large amounts of noxious fumes and smoke which I would think would cause anyone to give up , unless they showed up with a torch and a firesuit and supplied air respirator.

Of course the bed liner will catch on fire and burn up everything inside the container. Back to insurance.

 

[RobJ]

Forget all about the encasement systems. Set up a tracer system so you can find it whenever you wish.

And then set up up two more if the first one is found.

Actually you set one up that is easy to find, the next is a little more complicated but the third is very well hid!

These are compact tractors, not a lot of room to hide something. Mine does not have a truck!! Inside the gearbox might affect the sat signal. Can you hear me now? hehe