Security & Theft Securing tractor from theft

[Kendrick]

Exactly.. 2000-3000$ of space age notification and satalite tracking and super-human prevention methods start tipping the practicality way over the line..

soundguy

with simple electronics abilitys ie soldering. mine could be put together for about 300$ maybe less. 2 400 mhz transmitters would be the most expensive things going at about 50$ a set. if you wanted the super package a trackphone guts with activation would be 150$ and 40$ a year for the trackphone year card additional.

 

[Soundguy]

How far / what power on those 400mhz xmitters?

licensing requirements?

soundguy

 

[gemini5362]

with simple electronics abilitys ie soldering. mine could be put together for about 300$ maybe less. 2 400 mhz transmitters would be the most expensive things going at about 50$ a set. if you wanted the super package a trackphone guts with activation would be 150$ and 40$ a year for the trackphone year card additional.

I believe I have simple soldering ability and know a smattering of electronics. What kind of circuit are you talking about.

I also get the impression that you are talking about modifying the tracphone since you mentioned tracphone guts. Would you elaborate more on what you are suggesting would work ?

 

[patrick_g]

... if you wanted the super packat together for about 300$ maybe less. ge a trackphone guts with activation would be 150$ and 40$ a year for the trackphone year card additional.

The cell phone backup on our alarm system required no front end costs and is $5/month with no other charges. It self tests periodically.

Pat

 

[2manyrocks]

I estimate legal defense costs between $50,000 and $100,000 for the opportunity to find out if a jury agrees that your defense of your tractor with deadly force or bodily harm was justified. Since criminal defense costs are not typically covered by insurance coverage, the costs would come from your pocket. If you can show enough poverty for the court to appoint a lawyer, he's probably going to get paid at a rate of about 1/3 of what a private paying client would pay, and what level of defense do you suppose that buys?

Think about the risks of putting your freedom and assets in the hands of any jury and the cost of defending yourself.

 

[Soundguy]

I think you are on a bit of a tangent.

If I'm robbed, and the criminal gets injured.. it's not automatically my nads on the chopping block.

Well.. it may be in some communists states.. however.. there are some states where the victom actually has rights...

I'm not a lawyer.. don't play one on TV, and havn't been to a holiday in express since easter.

I don't want to take this thread about securing a tractor down a leagl tangent involving dispatching a criminal..

I'd be glad to continue discussing ways to keep your tractor in your ownership.. but as far as the legal portion of the thread. I'll leave any further comments orphaned with no further discussion .

soundguy

I estimate legal defense costs between $50,000 and $100,000 for the opportunity to find out if a jury agrees that your defense of your tractor with deadly force or bodily harm was justified. Since criminal defense costs are not typically covered by insurance coverage, the costs would come from your pocket. If you can show enough poverty for the court to appoint a lawyer, he's probably going to get paid at a rate of about 1/3 of what a private paying client would pay, and what level of defense do you suppose that buys?

Think about the risks of putting your freedom and assets in the hands of any jury and the cost of defending yourself.

 

[KevPH1]

How about "Lo-Jack"?

 

[AKwelder]

And if there is only one side of the story, from the survivor, er victim the problem has less of a chance of going to court.

 

[Kendrick]

SparkFun Electronics - Modem Long Range 433MHz: UM96 - Includes Antenna and Cable

They also have some gsm cell componants
SparkFun Electronics - GE863 Module with GPS

for example t mobile? does have a prepay plan. if it is any thing like tracphone its about 50 a year to keep the unit running.

fyi gemini if you follow that reasoning you could make burgerlar alarms illeagle. as for the paint/teargas mine. there is product out there that is a foam with pepper spray/tear gass like effect on contact. it also paints the theaf with a uv type permant mark that can be later verified by the police. 4+ days before it wears out of the skin. that foam stuff is often sold in replacement of pepper spray as an assailent has a hard time explaining away the paint.

also i find the statement "apparently harmless portable object" i think we could safely argue that a tractor does not petecularly fall in that catigory. a tin of cookies would certinally fall in the harmless object catigory i dont think complex mechanical objects would though.

 

[Soundguy]

. RS232 serial line into computers is nice. exactly what program do you use to read those and react to them. If you do not have a computer or electronic background you might have problems with that.


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Won't be long before the rs232 is nothing but a bit of data and old specs .. something you will find in a history book... already getting hard to find native searial ports on computers or add on cards as it is.. though sometimes you can find USB converters.. etc... I bet it won't be long till usb and firewaire are about the only non video/audio IN/OUT ports on a computer..

soundguy

 

[gemini5362]

Won't be long before the rs232 is nothing but a bit of data and old specs .. something you will find in a history book... already getting hard to find native searial ports on computers or add on cards as it is.. though sometimes you can find USB converters.. etc... I bet it won't be long till usb and firewaire are about the only non video/audio IN/OUT ports on a computer..

soundguy

USb are non video/audio ?

I am looking at a projector for buisness meetings. The ones I am concentrating on have USB inputs. I might be wrong I would have to check and make sure but I believe the sounds system on the one desktop computer we have hooks to the USB port on the computer.

 

[Soundguy]

Ok.. Iguess I should have taken about 3-4 paragraphs and specifically dotted all the I's and crossed thet's before making an open ended technology post..... or should have fully prefaced all my comments..

In short.. how about 'dedicated' video / audio ports?

Yes.. you can do audio on USB..e tc.

soundguy

 

[patrick_g]

How about "Lo-Jack"?

Didn't you see on 60 Minutes where the surgeon general published a report on Lo-Jak being linked to brain tumors. Something about the RF energy...

Pat