Remove a loader

[Oldmanfromthemoutains]

I have a MF165 that was inherited. I was wondering how to take it off and on the tractor.

 

[JasperFrank]

We would need to know which make and model loader is on the tractor. So far, you have only told us what the tractor is. The loader could be anything. Since it can be dangerous, if not done correctly, I would hesitate to suggest any sort of universal method.

 

[Oldmanfromthemoutains]

I can't find a name on it anywhere. I can get some pictures of the attachment points and and over view.

 

[Oldmanfromthemoutains]

I'm pretty sure it's a factory installed loader.

 

[LD1]

Pics would do wonders

 

[Farmer495]

Post a picture. I am going to guess it's a pin on loader and not quick attach. That will be a pain to take on and off if you do not have the right set up. I remove a pin on/off loader routinely and it requires something overhead (like building truss/beam etc) to hold the loader in place while off.

 

[Sonny580]

EACH loader has its danger points!! I had one on an AC-45 that I ended up cutting it off with the torch! Started at the bucket and went from there! IF you want to save the loader, there is WAY more problems in getting it off!
overhead lift or another tractor with loader or a skidloader is almost a must, BUT danger exists so gotta be careful!
as stated before,---PICTURES!!

 

[JasperFrank]

Serial numbers for your tractor with dates.... The factory loader was called the MF 235.

Does it look like this?

1964:	643000001
1965:	643000481
1966:	643007763
1967:	643014673
1967:	9A1000
1968:	9A39836
1969:	9A63158
1970:	9A87325
1971:	9A107597
1972:	9A128141
1973:	9A152025
1974:	9A179544
1975:	9A207681

 

[deereman75]

Loaders on old ag tractors are almost universally a nightmare to remove. Even the so called "quick attach" ones are only "quick attach" in that that aren't permanently attached.
Personally I won't remove one without either a bigger loader or a yard forklift.
If your thoughts are removing it when it's not needed, and putting it back on after, forget it. My old Deeres have all had loaders and you get used to just having it there all the time, even when it can be a bit of a pain. If you have something specific you really need a tractor without a loader for, I'd honestly suggest buying a second old ag tractor without a loader... The loader is such a desirable attachment that they are usually quite cheap without one. Then you can just switch between machines without any hassle at all.

 

[JasperFrank]

Loaders on old ag tractors are almost universally a nightmare to remove. Even the so called "quick attach" ones are only "quick attach" in that that aren't permanently attached.

I agree with Deereman75. If the OP does have a MF 235, it doesn't appear to be a quick attach sort of design. Looks like one would have to jack up the frame rails to mounting bolt points on the tractor to install: A two man job to line up the four belly bolts. Getting it off, would require lots of adjustable stands. I have a more modern common design, a Ford 7106Q, and these follow the idea that there is a drop bar that acts as the stand and you use the hydraulics to position the FEL for removal and attachment that fits over the pre-installed, frame mounted, rail load points. Still a pain, if you have to remove the FEL on dirt ground, as things will not line up anyway when you try to re-attach. I've only had mine off once. It took up some serious real estate in the garage with a level concrete floor, and it was a bear to get it back together. Have never taken it off since.

 

[mo1]

Probably the best question to ask is why you want to remove the loader. Sometimes just dropping the bucket will make visibility and maneuverability good enough that you don't need to remove the entire loader. This would be a pin on bucket so it will come off without too much trouble but it will take a large bolt or a punch to line up the holes with the rod cylinder, a length of pipe to move the bucket, and about half an hour to get it back on. If you need to take more off, you can possibly prop up or suspend the loader boom arms and then remove the boom pivot pins and the boom cylinders' head end pins. Note that you will need to detach the hydraulic lines to the loader, which may involve adding in couplers if they are not already connected that way.

I have had and/or run tractors that have had easily removed loaders and ones where it was as difficult as described above. I only remember ever taking a loader off once, and it was to take the tractor in for the shop to remove a sheared off mounting bracket bolt that an easy-out couldn't take out. Otherwise loaders never left a tractor as taking a bucket off was nearly always "enough." It also helps if the loader isn't too big for the tractor. Some of the newer loaders are simply enormous and really would be bothersome to leave on.

 

[Rebeldad1]

just pull the bucket pins and remove the bucket. may be all you really need to take off.

 

[LD1]

just pull the bucket pins and remove the bucket. may be all you really need to take off.

I don't think the op ever said why he wanted it removed. So hard to say if just the bucket is enough? Or hell, for all we know just taking the bucket off IS what he is talking about

Hopefully he checks back in and answers some questions