Quality Electric Lot Splitter?
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Sawyer Rob
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Well, THAT certainly makes it better!
Still not a strong 3hp though...
AND, if you are running it on a phase converter, that makes for a bit more loss...
SR
Still not a strong 3hp though...
AND, if you are running it on a phase converter, that makes for a bit more loss...
SR
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It's probably a VFD and the VFD draws more amps than the motor.
LD1
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Yes it's off a vfd.
It's just a standard run of the mill baldor tefc 3hp. (Gold paint). Don't remember exact amps. Just a basic motor.
Quieter and cheaper than running the gas motor. Tried a few 5hp motors I had, and the drive wouldn't start them. Started this one no prob. And don't go over FLA. Not worried. Got nothing in the motor.
It's just a standard run of the mill baldor tefc 3hp. (Gold paint). Don't remember exact amps. Just a basic motor.
Quieter and cheaper than running the gas motor. Tried a few 5hp motors I had, and the drive wouldn't start them. Started this one no prob. And don't go over FLA. Not worried. Got nothing in the motor.
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If you were trying to run it continuously on high pressure you'd likely burn up a 3hp motor, but you're not.
jerrybob
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Thanks.......probably not worth it.....will not buy.
goeduck
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I have been thinking of getting one of those to keep just inside the garage for the simple 2 way straight grain splits (not big rounds or crotches). Also for those pieces where my eyes were bigger than my stove opening when doing in the initial split.
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triptester
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Ramsplitter has a 20 ton H/V splitter with a 2hp. electic motor.
2 Ton
Swisher also makes a 22 ton electric splitter
22 Ton Timber Brute Eco Split 12 Volt Electric Full Frame Log Splitter LS22E - Log Splitters
2 Ton
Swisher also makes a 22 ton electric splitter
22 Ton Timber Brute Eco Split 12 Volt Electric Full Frame Log Splitter LS22E - Log Splitters
LD1
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The issue I have with the electric versions is I think the motors are just too undersized.
Most certainly not designed for continuous duty. Or longevity for that matter. And the math simply doesnt work.
Swisher for example, uses a 2hp 120v motor and what they claim is a 10gpm pump. But under pump detail they list it as an 8.8/1.6. That usually means 8.8gpm on high flow low pressure, and 1.6 gpm on high pressure low flow.
Now its no secret that log splitter MFG's fudge the tonnage numbers. But usually they are right on the money for calculated cycle time.
Swisher uses a 4x24 cylinder. With 10gpm its closer to 14.4, but the true 8.8gpm of the pump puts it closer to 16 seconds.
Now I cannot confirm any of this, and dont know what the real world cycle is, but the more important issue is motor HP. A 2HP motor, with 1.6gpm on the high pressure side.....should only be operating up to a max of 1820psi. Which would only yield about 11.5t of splitting.
But as with any electric motor, they are very very hard to stall. They just continue to draw amps to overcome. Eventually leading to a burnt up motor.
To actually get 2500psi out of a 1.6gpm pump, you actually need 3HP to do that.
The ramsplitter says it uses an 11gpm pump, paired with a 3.5" cylinder. Now on paper it should cycle in ~9.6seconds, but they claim a more realistic 12 seconds. so thats believable. But while everyone fudges the tonnage numbers up a bit......this one takes the cake. Claiming a full 20t out of a small 3.5" cylinder, that at 2500psi would only make 12t.
But the same issue with the motor. I have seen 11gpm pumps come a few different ways. With varying high pressure stages. Some as high as 3.5gpm on high stage, and down to under 2. Assuming this is under two. Still "should" have a 3HP motor.
And with the really small second stage, they are really slow when high power is required. About half that of the pumps normally paired with a gas motor, because the second stage can be up in the 3-3.5gpm range on the 11gpm pumps.
I understand the convenience of 120v. But a 3hp motor is really needed IMO. But that would require a 30a curcuit.
Again, no real world experience with anyones electric offerings other than the one I converted. But I wonder....those of you that do have electric.....ever have breaker trip issues? Full cycle and dead head pump (make it build full pressure)....does breaker blow? Cause I guess thats about the only thing saving a 2HP motor from ceratin failure on these splitters is the fact that most are probably used ona 20a circuit.
Its a shame more companies dont make an "actual" electric splitter.....sized right......and for continuous duty. And for bigger pumps too, like 16 and 22gpm pumps. Would be nice to unplug the welder or air compressor, plug in a 240v splitter.....and have all the power and speed of a good commercial unit.
Most certainly not designed for continuous duty. Or longevity for that matter. And the math simply doesnt work.
Swisher for example, uses a 2hp 120v motor and what they claim is a 10gpm pump. But under pump detail they list it as an 8.8/1.6. That usually means 8.8gpm on high flow low pressure, and 1.6 gpm on high pressure low flow.
Now its no secret that log splitter MFG's fudge the tonnage numbers. But usually they are right on the money for calculated cycle time.
Swisher uses a 4x24 cylinder. With 10gpm its closer to 14.4, but the true 8.8gpm of the pump puts it closer to 16 seconds.
Now I cannot confirm any of this, and dont know what the real world cycle is, but the more important issue is motor HP. A 2HP motor, with 1.6gpm on the high pressure side.....should only be operating up to a max of 1820psi. Which would only yield about 11.5t of splitting.
But as with any electric motor, they are very very hard to stall. They just continue to draw amps to overcome. Eventually leading to a burnt up motor.
To actually get 2500psi out of a 1.6gpm pump, you actually need 3HP to do that.
The ramsplitter says it uses an 11gpm pump, paired with a 3.5" cylinder. Now on paper it should cycle in ~9.6seconds, but they claim a more realistic 12 seconds. so thats believable. But while everyone fudges the tonnage numbers up a bit......this one takes the cake. Claiming a full 20t out of a small 3.5" cylinder, that at 2500psi would only make 12t.
But the same issue with the motor. I have seen 11gpm pumps come a few different ways. With varying high pressure stages. Some as high as 3.5gpm on high stage, and down to under 2. Assuming this is under two. Still "should" have a 3HP motor.
And with the really small second stage, they are really slow when high power is required. About half that of the pumps normally paired with a gas motor, because the second stage can be up in the 3-3.5gpm range on the 11gpm pumps.
I understand the convenience of 120v. But a 3hp motor is really needed IMO. But that would require a 30a curcuit.
Again, no real world experience with anyones electric offerings other than the one I converted. But I wonder....those of you that do have electric.....ever have breaker trip issues? Full cycle and dead head pump (make it build full pressure)....does breaker blow? Cause I guess thats about the only thing saving a 2HP motor from ceratin failure on these splitters is the fact that most are probably used ona 20a circuit.
Its a shame more companies dont make an "actual" electric splitter.....sized right......and for continuous duty. And for bigger pumps too, like 16 and 22gpm pumps. Would be nice to unplug the welder or air compressor, plug in a 240v splitter.....and have all the power and speed of a good commercial unit.
triptester
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While I will agree that most splitter tonnage and cycle times are usually exaggerated . There are many different types of electric motors that may have the same hp. rating but different capabilities . Shaded pole, split phase, capacitor start, capacitor run, induction, etc.. Different types of electric motors is like comparing diesel to gas engines of the same hp..
