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/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #101  
I have a 24' RAM 2500 w/ the Cummins. So far I really like the truck. I was a Ford guy but kept having issues with them. Tried Chevy for a brief time and then decided to look at RAM. As soon as I test drove it, I knew I was I buying it. Are they without issues? No, but I think it's the better choice out there right now.
Check out the newest Cummins engine specs: https://www.cummins.com/en-na/engines/octane
 
/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #102  
Check out the newest Cummins engine specs: https://www.cummins.com/en-na/engines/octane

Interesting. But only 660 lb-ft of torque max - a far cry from the latest Cummins diesel @ over 1000 lb-ft of torque. And I'm wondering at what rpm that engine makes that 660 lb-ft of torque? All the article says is that "rated" speed is 3200 rpm. One of the things I love about my Cummins diesel is max torque is about 1600 rpm. The truck rarely gets to 2000 rpm.
 
/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #103  
I might suggest having the underside treated with Woolwax, fluid film, even used oil to give whatever you buy a fighting chance.👍
Just an FYI, a guy at work had his GMC sprayed with Woolwax, and when he went to put airbags on it, everywhere he wiped off the Woolwax it took the paint right off, right down to the bare metal. User beware!
 
/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #105  
Interesting. But only 660 lb-ft of torque max - a far cry from the latest Cummins diesel @ over 1000 lb-ft of torque. And I'm wondering at what rpm that engine makes that 660 lb-ft of torque? All the article says is that "rated" speed is 3200 rpm. One of the things I love about my Cummins diesel is max torque is about 1600 rpm. The truck rarely gets to 2000 rpm.
660 ftlbs would put it FAR ahead of the other gassers and 3200 rpm is really low for a gas motor to make max torque. It's going to be a heck of an engine.
Probably way better fuel economy since it's a six
 
/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #106  
Interesting. But only 660 lb-ft of torque max - a far cry from the latest Cummins diesel @ over 1000 lb-ft of torque. And I'm wondering at what rpm that engine makes that 660 lb-ft of torque? All the article says is that "rated" speed is 3200 rpm. One of the things I love about my Cummins diesel is max torque is about 1600 rpm. The truck rarely gets to 2000 rpm.
Preliminary suggests over 550 lb. ft at 1200 RPM for the 87 octane gas engine.
None of the new Cummins seem to make under 500lb at 1000 RPM.

Freaking Impressive for an 87 octane gas engine. That one line is showing about 430lb. ft. @ 600 RPM!

Want to pull a heavy trailer from a dead stop up a hill? Compare the way it would feel doing the same job with say a 10 year old 6.2 Ford V8 gas engine starting at 1000 RPM, 530 vs, about 110 lb. ft. Doing it with a manual transmission...

I smell a burning Ford clutch. Eco boost kicked the 6.2's butt. Not really fair busting Fords chops by using a decade old engine but does show how much things have changed and also which is a better truck power band.
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/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #107  
The off-pedal torque rivals early 2000’s diesels and the torque curve is also flat from what would normally be a peaky gasser.
 
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/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #108  
I tow a 7k 14ft trailer weighing 2040lbs with my 2024 z71 Colorado. No issues. It’s got 430 lb-ft torque which is pretty good for its size.
 
/ Pick WinterDeere's next truck #109  
Newer gas V8 engines are posting similar stats as diesel engines available in the same vehicle. The Ford Godzilla V8 is a work engine designed for Ford trucks all the way up to the F550.
I've owned my one and only V8(GM) with the fuel saver function of disabling 4 cylinders; that rules out GM and Ram gas engines.
The GM engines that are compared to the Ford Godzilla engine in the HD would be the 6.0 and 6.6 gassers. Both of those do not have DOD...

The 6.6L V8 gas engine (L8T) in the Chevrolet Silverado 2500HD/3500HD does not feature Displacement on Demand (DoD), also known as Active Fuel Management (AFM). This heavy-duty, direct-injection engine is designed for durability without cylinder-deactivation technology, providing 401 hp and 464 lb-ft of torque.
 

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