Oxy/acet tank ownership transfer

[big bubba]

Probably varies by state, but i anticipate eventually selling my mid sized oxy/acet tanks. i bought them outright in mid 70'5 & still have ownership papers
i will eventually sell them, but not sure how the ownership transfer is made & if it will be honored by a supplier.

some companies only fill their company bottles. what is your experience of tank sales, suggestions? they have been honored & tested through the years by local companies w/my paperwork. tried calling them, they really are clueless about the subject.. thx in advance

 

[grsthegreat]

Here in idaho, they simply swap out tanks. They dont sell them as far as i know. I know i found a large, empty mig gas tank at an old storage unit we were clearing. Itook it to gas supplier and did a swap out for a slightly smaller tank, full of gas. No papers needed.

If they do sell the tanks, i e never run into it and ive been getting allsorts of gas tanks filled over the years.

 

[Oaktree]

Here in idaho, they simply swap out tanks. They dont sell them as far as i know. I know i found a large, empty mig gas tank at an old storage unit we were clearing. Itook it to gas supplier and did a swap out for a slightly smaller tank, full of gas. No papers needed.

Yeah, I think everyone just swaps them out. Probably not efficient for every Airgas, etc. to have bulk tanks on the premises, there may be some OSHA rules too.
I have, however been asked for proof of ownership.

 

[big bubba]

yes, swapping tanks is std, & i'm sure mine have been swapped over the years from various suppliers. however if i want to sell the tanks w/original papers, how does that work. my original question

 

[mrmikey]

Since you have the original papers, why not just write up a receipt saying you transfer such and such tanks as described on the attached papers originally bought by me, Big Bubba on Jan-01-1998 to John Doe on Mar-05-2025. Or something similar and attach a copy of the original bill of sale.

 

[big bubba]

good advice. i had thought of a notorized bill of sale, easy sale for me, but would it be honored by a supplier? maybe it's too broad a question, & i should pursue in depth local suppliers on that.
the young guys at the desk do a good job, but arrive to work every day w/a blank slate like my former jr high students, best regards, thx

 

[WranglerX]

I "own" three tanks, oxygen, acetylene and C25.... Do not have bill of sale for the oxy and acet, were purchases maybe 30 years ago and bill of sale (receipt) has disappeared same as dealer who sold them to me.... Possession is ownership..

C25 tank all I have is a copy of receipt whose corbon has faded to a point its unreadable.... Possession is ownership...

Local gas supplier has been more than happy to exchange them for the price of a fill..

This may vary wherever you live....

 

[big bubba]

that makes sense, so it seems it's a local matter of suppliers. i'm sure that in medical & even aqua lung regulations of ownership are stricter. i just want to sell & want the buyer to be able to refill. hey, looks like gun sales are much easier, thx

 

[5030]

I own ALL my bottles and I have all of them filled (not exchanged) as needed at the local Air Gas compressor plant. 6 120's of different gases and 1 dissolved acetylene that I exchange.

 

[WranglerX]

I own ALL my bottles and I have all of them filled (not exchanged) as needed at the local Air Gas compressor plant. 6 120's of different gases and 1 dissolved acetylene that I exchange.

Not all of us have a "compressor plant" within reasonable range..... That is why we exchange....

 

[bdhsfz6]

I bought my tanks and refilled them at a welding shop in NJ who has since gone out of business. When I moved to PA, I shopped around and found a local dealer who would exchange them. I did have to show him the paperwork I got with the purchase though.

I was a little annoyed at giving him my shiny, well cared for cylinders for a couple of beat up scratched ones though. No worry about getting them tested anymore, so the exchange plan has it's advantages.

 

[sandman2234]

Not all of us have a "compressor plant" within reasonable range..... That is why we exchange....

Even some of us with a local compressor plant still do the exchange. The only way that makes sense as far as time goes. I don't want to wait until they are running a fresh batch of bottles or have to make two trips to come back and pick up filled bottles. The other option is if they have 3 or 4 bottles set up, they can trans-fill, but you can't get a bottle completely full that way, close, but not full.
David from jax

 

[big bubba]

sounds as if it's almost an individual local/company policy that i'll have to explore to make my ownership transfer sale workable. glad i have kept the 50yr old ownership papers intact. thx for the replies, regards

 

[Sonny580]

Dad bought med. sized tanks in 1960 and traded up the oxy. tank to the big boy a few years later for a few dollars and even tho I still have his title to them he passed away in 91 and I still exchange them at local dealer which has changed hands many times over the years and as long as the tanks have current test stamping on them they just trade tanks +fill volume and I am out the door.
As to original question,--- tanks and torches sell here at the local auction yard without titles all the time. Never heard of any problems with new owners getting them filled.
The main thing is that you have to go to dealer that handles the brand of your tanks.
Mine happen to be Lindie which is now Praxiar.

 

[WranglerX]

Dad bought med. sized tanks in 1960 and traded up the oxy. tank to the big boy a few years later for a few dollars and even tho I still have his title to them he passed away in 91 and I still exchange them at local dealer which has changed hands many times over the years and as long as the tanks have current test stamping on them they just trade tanks +fill volume and I am out the door.
As to original question,--- tanks and torches sell here at the local auction yard without titles all the time. Never heard of any problems with new owners getting them filled.
The main thing is that you have to go to dealer that handles the brand of your tanks.
Mine happen to be Lindie which is now Praxiar.

Actually Lindie dropped the PRAXAIR name a while back and is now LINDIE.... At least at my dealer and their online website...

 

[murphy1244]

I own ALL my bottles and I have all of them filled (not exchanged) as needed at the local Air Gas compressor plant. 6 120's of different gases and 1 dissolved acetylene that I exchange.

Suppose you do your own tank test too?

 

[big bubba]

Dad bought med. sized tanks in 1960 and traded up the oxy. tank to the big boy a few years later for a few dollars and even tho I still have his title to them he passed away in 91 and I still exchange them at local dealer which has changed hands many times over the years and as long as the tanks have current test stamping on them they just trade tanks +fill volume and I am out the door.
As to original question,--- tanks and torches sell here at the local auction yard without titles all the time. Never heard of any problems with new owners getting them filled.
The main thing is that you have to go to dealer that handles the brand of your tanks.
Mine happen to be Lindie which is now Praxiar.

believe you've nailed what i was looking for. & in terms of stamping, think there must be state time sensitive regs that require periodic testing, mine have been done once. good reply, glad i've got all the docs, regards

 

[Sonny580]

I think the testing here is 10 years,--dont quote me on it! different brands/companies may have shorter term on theirs.

 

[jaxs]

Not all of us have a "compressor plant" within reasonable range..... That is why we exchange....

He uses enough clout to have a plant built wherever he wants it.

 

[CliffordK]

There are owner tanks and rental tanks.

The rental tanks I've seen are about 4 feet tall, and the oxygen tanks usually have an embossed collar with the name of the welding supplier.

The owner tanks can be any size, and have a plain collar.

Lots of used tanks are around the community. You can buy a tank at a welding supply store, or you can buy one used. Talk to your welding supplier about the cost of purchasing a tank or set of tanks to get an idea of what they are worth. After a few trade-ins, there is no difference between a used tank and a newly purchased tank (other than some welding suppliers complaining about the hydrotesting being out of date).

In the past, if you took a rental tank back to the welding supplier, they would simply confiscate it. I've been told that they are a bit more forgiving now, but I won't take my chances. If it looks like a rental, I won't touch it.