New to me 1850

[agjones]

Hi gang

I'm heading to scope an 1850 with hopes of bringing it home.

I've got 2 42Xs so I'm familiar with the power trac... But also completely aware this is a different animal... I have run plenty of other Slope mowers so testing the tilt setup and performance I feel ok w...but input welcome.

I've checked out many threads and mods that you guys have shared... So thanks for that.

I'd appreciate any trouble areas to check for signs of doom, bad maintenance etc...

If it rides home w me, I anticipate doing maintenance like filters and cooler fin clean up etc... I have a filter cart to run the hydraulic oil through... But any gotcha things or wear/fatigue to look for please let me know... Really hoping not to drag a project home...

As always thanks for the helpful insights!

Stay tuned for a 42X(predator powered) for sale
Andrew

 

[Thomas]

Hope your able to purchase Andrew. :thumbsup:

 

[woodlandfarms]

A lot to look at and then nothing. If it runs, moves and seems solid, well, its a PT and it doesn't get much better than that. Do you know what year? Does it have the hydraulic locking mechanism for implements? Hydraulic shuttle for forward and reverse? Is it a Deutz?

It comes down to how it was maintained, how many hours and what you are willing to pay for it.

 

[agjones]

Not sure of the year, waiting for a response from Tazewell. Yes hydraulic attach, deutz and treadle forward /rev... From pictures and history seems reasonably cared for. 4 new tires... Hours just under 1500.

I've got my ir thermometer and my experience fwiw... We'll see.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Well that would be a post 2001 model so depending on the price you can't miss. 1500 hours, you should get 3K or so at least with the Deutz. We do need a couple more 1850 owners on this site... .

 

[agjones]

Thanks for the responses.

Do you happen to know the flow (and psi if not 3200) of the loader cylinder circuit?

 

[woodlandfarms]

At the lift cylinders? Nope. Never seen that number. The PTO is 18GPM @3200. I would call Tazwell on that one, but please let us know your results.

 

[agjones]

Runs like a top....heading home with a heavy trailer!

Was a municipal unit now it's gonna be a very country unit... Closer to 1600 hrs and seems like maintenance was done by some body on the clock.

No obvious immediate needs... Other than a suspension seat!

Pics later this week. Honest.

 

[agjones]

Runs like a top....heading home with a heavy trailer!

Was a municipal unit now it's gonna be a very country unit... Closer to 1600 hrs and seems like maintenance was done by some body on the clock.

No obvious immediate needs... Other than a suspension seat!

Pics later this week. Honest.

 

[AVIVIII]

Congrats!

 

[woodlandfarms]

Jealous. Can we ask price and what you got with it?

 

[MossRoad]

NICE! :thumbsup:

 

[agjones]

No attachments, unless the fire extinguisher counts

I've got a non pt grapple bucket, flail brush mower and excavator type mini mulcher en route. I'm finishing up a rehab on a 7'x16' deckover trailer. This winter I'll rebuild a 6' power rake and fit up an excavator attachment... Probably adapt the burley 3pt hitch from my 425d to the rear of the 1850....dunno yet. Happened pretty fast.

This things job for me is margin(field, road, utils) maintenance and trail construction /management.

Price? Well I nevah... Bless your curious heart. <--to be read with a slight gasp in my late grandmother's drawl!

Don't tell her I answered such a question!... Less than a new 425,more than a new 422.

BTW surpluscenter.com has a hydraulic motor that is a good match for the 1850 to run 540 rpm ag implements... 8.1ci...one left.

 

[cqaigy2]

Yea!

Looks like fun.

 

[SpringHollow]

This would be better if you want to hook up to PTO equipment but out requires full flow.
7.63 cu in PTO Drive Motor | Low Speed High Torque Hydraulic Motors | Hydraulic Motors | Hydraulics | www.surpluscenter.com
It would be nice if there was a 7 cu in one.

Ken

 

[agjones]

Hey Ken, thx for the response on the hydraulic motor. Let's talk about it...New thread if you want.

I'm learning... And have asked surpluscenter.com for advice.

My understanding is that I'll lose a few rpm, 21...but that the 8.1ci motor is applying the full 18.2gpm @ 3200psi & developing the full hp/torque available to the hydraulic pto, 30+. While the 7.63ci one is limited to 26hp and cannot sustain the psi of the 1850 w/in it's spec.

I got one of the 8.1 & added a shaft adapter... So I'm at about the same $.

I've got a lot tied to this experiment... My brute of a flail mower showed up yesterday.... To really get the most out of it, I gotta clear 30hp.... It's spec for up to 4-5" brush. Once I'm satisfied with with that pair... I'll order the 28" mulcher which is made locally. The 21rpm don't matter as much to me as max sustained pwr.

I'm definitely interested in your input. Why would you be after 7ci?

 

[SpringHollow]

The main use I have been thinking of needing a PTO motor for is a flail mower like you are doing. From what I have read, RPM seems to be more critical for flails than bush hogs, better to be high than low. I hate having to have full WOT (wide open throttle) output to make an attachment work properly. That is why I would even prefer a 7 cu in one in order to have a safety factor. And yes, it would be nice if the PTO unit could handle the full pressure. The total shaft length can also be an issue depending upon the setup. And I did intend to say "might be better". Running short on sleep these days.

Ken

 

[agjones]

Gotcha. In my experience with flail mowers the rpm are very important when cutting high /consistent density grass...where it translates to cut quality... Less important when swinging mass at scared brush... Which is lower ground speed any way... That said, if the thing is not spinning fast enough to keep the flails out you really just have a lawn striper!

At any rate, seems to me that I have a better chance of keeping those 43oz <--yeah almost 3#> flails spinning out and angry by having the torque to follow through even if the peak rpm is 520...This particular mower is a trail cutter from China. And 66" cut width plus side shift....so I can clear single wheel setup or one side if running duals...

Flail mower if interested, is fhm d160 betstco.com... Build quality and finish is good. If the gear flakes out... I'll ultimately just direct drive the output to the belt pulley...

These won't be hours long sessions of flailing...

 

[ponytug]

Not that it is a flail, but I went undersize on the motor for my wood chipper with the idea that I might be able to drive it at more than 540rpm. (It was an international manufacturer, so I was pretty sure it would handle 1000rpm; it does.)

With a flail mower...I really don't know you want the speed, because the kinetic energy in the flail goes up as the square of the speed, but you do need the power, because that is the amount of material that you can mulch per unit time.

It sounds like you got a great machine for a great price.

Can you tell that I'm green with envy? :thumbsup:

All the best,

Peter

 

[woodlandfarms]

Hey Peter. Can you in a seperate thread show us your Chipper? Just found one on CL for a song, one of those chinese brands that proabably needs to be adjusted and then works like a charm... seller seems to think it is junk and selling it for junk price. Want to see how you did the motor assembly.