New Pole Barn Started

[EddieWalker]

How much is the transportation fee? I would talk to the rental yards and see what they have to offer, and it it includes delivery.

Can you remove the header on the end wall and get something inside the building to set the trusses? then put the header back into place ounce you are done inside the building? You can use a smaller tractor with a boom pole this way.

 

[BoylermanCT]

Eddie, removing the gable header would be a challenge as they are attached with five 40D nails per post. However, we could hand carry them into the barn without too much trouble. They are 7.5' tall and the 2 doors are 9'. So if I could lift them straight up once inside, we could set them in place without too much difficulty. The question is how to lift them up 20' to set them on the 12' walls. I'm thinking a boom on the front end loader might be possible. Wondering if someone has done this and has pics they would share.

 

[GLyford]

Go to the "enhanced by google" search box at the top of the page and search for loader gin pole, loader boom pole, or fel boom pole. Should get you lots, this topic comes up fairly often.

 

[aczlan]

Either a gin pole, or a guy on each wall with a rope and pull them up one side at a time, then flip them once they are up.

Aaron Z

 

[EddieWalker]

I did a quick search and clicked on images to see what showed up and I think there might be something in the pictures that will work for you, or at give you some ideas. https://duckduckgo.com/?q=lifting+trusses+with+loader&atb=v108-1&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images

 

[fitter1]

Help me understand that type of construction with the 2x12's sandwich holding up the roof trusses. All I see is the nail fasteners taking the weight of the roof. Why no top plate and set trusses on top of them. My small barn was built the same way with 2x12 nailed to each side of the 6x6 posts. Plus i have a second floor? My builder says don't worry, but I still do.

 

[s219]

Help me understand that type of construction with the 2x12's sandwich holding up the roof trusses. All I see is the nail fasteners taking the weight of the roof. Why no top plate and set trusses on top of them. My small barn was built the same way with 2x12 nailed to each side of the 6x6 posts. Plus i have a second floor? My builder says don't worry, but I still do.

It's very common to do it this way with pole barns. Those 40D nails can hold a lot (or lag bolts instead). However, my building department would not approve my plans to do it that way. So I instead notched one 2x12 into the post and the second 2x12 gets nailed on (sistered) over the first one. This addressed both of their complaints about the other method.

 

[BoylermanCT]

Help me understand that type of construction with the 2x12's sandwich holding up the roof trusses. All I see is the nail fasteners taking the weight of the roof. Why no top plate and set trusses on top of them. My small barn was built the same way with 2x12 nailed to each side of the 6x6 posts. Plus i have a second floor? My builder says don't worry, but I still do.

I was thinking the same thing. I know if I was building a deck, I could not attach a carrying beam to the side of the post. Code requires the post to be notched so the beam is resting on at least part of the post. But the plans are stamped by a CT approved engineer so I have to believe the 40D nails are sufficient. The plans showed 5 nails per 2x12 per post, but I drove in 6 just to be safe. All told the 4 2x24 carrying beams are held to the posts with 264 40D nails.

 

[fitter1]

At least you have doubled up on the 2x12's that would make it twice as strong as mine. Have fun with it.

 

[BoylermanCT]

Ordered 32 more yards of fill. My father-in-law spread it out and we need at least 32 more which will be delivered tomorrow. Never thought I would spend thousands on dirt! But it is looking better and better each day! Now we need a little rain to help the dirt to settle.

 

[otlski]

Yeah, this day after day of perfectly beautiful weather is getting old
By the way, nice looking bear. No earrings either.

 

[metalchomper]

My dad and I put up the trusses on my 30x40 by hand. Started by putting up the end truss upside down. Swung it up by using long 2x4s against bracing that we had previously installed. Leaned an extension ladder against the end truss extended higher than the peak. Had a pulley tied on the top rung. Put the next truss on the walls upside down. Put up one end at a time by carry it on my shoulder. Used a rope in the pulley along with a 2x4 to start the truss rotating up. Pulled it up mostly with the rope and pulley. My dad would hold it up and give it vertical control while I moved the truss into place on the walls, nailed, and braced it. Repeat 19 more times.

By the time he built a new shop, we bought a tractor. I welded a vertical 2" receiver to the fork attachment. Used a pole in the receiver to set his trusses. So much easier.

 

[BoylermanCT]

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By the time he built a new shop, we bought a tractor. I welded a vertical 2" receiver to the fork attachment. Used a pole in the receiver to set his trusses. So much easier.[/QUOTE]

What diameter and length pile did you use, and did you support the pole with braces, chains or cables?

 

[nybirdman]

Either a gin pole, or a guy on each wall with a rope and pull them up one side at a time, then flip them once they are up.

Aaron Z

That was how my Amish builder did it,5/12 trusses on a 12' wall

 

[BoylermanCT]

The Amish have their own way of doing things! I bought my tractor near Lancaster PA, and next to the tractor dealer was an Amish man plowing a field with 6 Belgian horses all lined up in a row next to one another.

Amish Shed Move - YouTube

My guess is they went to a crane construction company, and they said it could not be done.

Spent the evening leveling the dirt inside the barn. Looks pretty good. Will hand dress the edges near the skirt board and run a plate compactor around the edges and then order up 22 yards of of crusher run to bring the grade up 6" to final level for the concrete floor.

I am leaning towards using a vertical pole with a hoist so we can lift the trusses safely into place. We decided against the loader boom idea as we will run out of maneuvering room with the boom when trying to set the last of the trusses. Will be building the pole out of triple 2x6's and getting a HF electric hoist that I can use in the shop once the barn is built.

 

[metalchomper]

By the time he built a new shop, we bought a tractor. I welded a vertical 2" receiver to the fork attachment. Used a pole in the receiver to set his trusses. So much easier.[/QUOTE]

What diameter and length pile did you use, and did you support the pole with braces, chains or cables?[/QUOTE]

2" square tubing. The receiver came from harbor freight. Didn't need additional bracing. Don't remember the wall thickness. We would tilt the fork frame to where the end of the pole would touch the peak of the truss. I would tie the pole to the truss with rope and a slip knot rope that was long enough so I could pull on it from the ground to untie. Had a tag line on one end so I could control the truss while my dad ran the tractor. Left the header off the door so we could drive in with the boom raised.

 

[BoylermanCT]

I was wondering how you set the last trusses closest to the entry door. Thanks for the info. My FIL found some 2" square stock in his barn, and we are going to see if it might work for what we are planning. More to come.

 

[metalchomper]

I was wondering how you set the last trusses closest to the entry door. Thanks for the info. My FIL found some 2" square stock in his barn, and we are going to see if it might work for what we are planning. More to come.

With the tractor, I set it from the outside. By hand we put up the last two or three together and walked them into place after swinging them upright.

Getting ready to build a 40x64. Either going to pay for a crane or build a boom pole for my 18000lb terex backhoe.

 

[BoylermanCT]

Lined up my concrete floor today. Was thinking about doing it myself, but talked myself out of it. Would have been $2000 in concrete plus $800 in rebar. My father-in-law has a neighbor a few houses away who is a concrete contractor, and he quoted me $4000 for everything using 4000psi concrete. 4" thick in the 28x30 barn area and 5" thick in the 12x30 shop with two 4x10 sloped aprons to connect the 2 doors to the existing driveway. Smooth finish in the shop and rougher finish in the animal area.

This week I will be bringing in 2 dump truck loads of septic sand for the 6" subfloor for the concrete pour. He says he uses it for garages and barns and it packs nicely and is relatively cheap. Then I am trying to buy some pallet racking 12' long and 12' high. Will put on skids and use as scaffolding during construction and then use for implement storage in the shop. If I can get the pallet rack this week, we may be able to start setting trusses over the 4th of July weekend.

 

[BoylermanCT]

Started working in the barn again now that the weather is nicer and cooler. We built a crane attachment from a 20’ 3” square steel tube and mounted the pole and a Harbor Freight hoist to my forklift backplate.



Allowed us to raise and lower trusses at the touch of a button with great precision which made setting the trusses in place much easier.