Need advice on trailer purchase

[Lineman North Florida]

That looks like a trailer built for half the capacity, that just happens to have double 8-lug 7k axles underneath it. Interesting.

It very well could be but it has worked really good to haul around my little tractor with FEL and 6' bush hog.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

This is what I use to haul my bigger tractor equipment and hay.

 

[deezler]

It very well could be but it has worked really good to haul around my little tractor with FEL and 6' bush hog.

Heck yeah, perfect for that! Exactly the kind of trailer I want to own, actually.....

 

[fried1765]

I don't know I would have to look through the paperwork tonight, but I'm not trying to prove anything, my post stated that it was an 18' +2' dovetail equipment trailer that has 2-7k axles with brakes on both axles that weighs in at 1990 pounds, there were a blue million of them made in these parts back in the 90's and mid 2000's and while I have never had 12k on it , it has hauled any and everything under the sun probably up to about 7 or 8k and to this day it hasn't warped or bent, I bought it from a local trailer manufacturer brand new in 2006 but I will look tonight to see what any of the paperwork says.

Your FL trailer registration will have the manufacturer GVW listed.

 

[coobie]

Going on 13 plus years with my 20ft PJ trailer 7000 lbs axles rub rails 16 inch e-rated tires.Not one single issue

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[Lineman North Florida]

Your FL trailer registration will have the manufacturer GVW listed.

I don't see that on my registration, so I looked on my Gooseneck brand stock trailer which has 2-5k axles under it and it's not on there either, I did find the sales invoice/receipt and it says 14k equipment trailer, I won't be able to post a picture till Monday but I will take a picture of both registrations and the invoice as maybe I am missing it, post a picture of your's and maybe that will show me where to look.

 

[fried1765]

I don't see that on my registration, so I looked on my Gooseneck brand stock trailer which has 2-5k axles under it and it's not on there either, I did find the sales invoice/receipt and it says 14k equipment trailer, I won't be able to post a picture till Monday but I will take a picture of both registrations and the invoice as maybe I am missing it, post a picture of your's and maybe that will show me where to look.

My 14K trailer is not in FL, and is currently not with me.
I had a previous FL trailer, and the trailer GVW was listed on that registration..

 

[mwemaxxowner]

I'm buying a bx1880, and I decided to buy a trailer at the same time. I bought a Hudson Brother's 20' (18 flat 2' dove) 3.5 ton capacity 9,000 gvwr for $3900. Compared to used prices I couldn't pass it up! I wanted a trailer I can haul my tractor, lumber, broken down truck, etc on. I'm always having random needs for a trailer and you never know what it's gonna weigh!

Sorry I just noticed you have a frontier. Note that the GVWR is not a rating of what you can tow, but a rating for what sort of payload it can handle on its own 4 tires. (Gvwr should be equal to the payload capacity plus the weight of the vehicle.) It'll let you know how much tongue weight you can handle, but other than that it's not directly related to whatever your tow rating is. Perhaps you're aware, and if so I apologize!

 

[Rock Crawler]

Quality Trailers Utility trailer, 16x7 with 2 3500 lb axles.

Iron Bull equipment trailer, 20' + 2', 2 7000 axles.

Appalachian Trailers dump trailer, 14 x 7 with 2 7000 lb axles.

The utility trailer is so I have something I can drag with my Cherokee TrailHawk if needed. Obviously I couldn't load it like you see with 9000 lbs of wood....

But the 22 foot Iron Bull is a great trailer for small tractors.

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[Rock Crawler]

The utility....

 

[nikerret]

Trailers are an interesting subject. You can compare similar Ford, GM, and Ram trucks and the basic builds are much more similar than different. With trailers, you can put two side-by-side, with the same spec’d capabilities and they may be completely different. Beyond the main frame: channel, I-beam, tube, even angle; the box design and supports can all be completely different. Supports 12” on center are generally an upgrade (or on the premium lines), but I’ve seen trailers with 24” on center supports, with 16”-18” being the most common. Ironically, the one with the extra supports actually has a lower payload capacity, since it all comes from the GVWR.

 

[4570Man]

That's funny, this one weighs in at 1990 lbs, 18' with 2' dovetail and 2 7k axles with brakes on both axles.

I’m going to join the camp that says that’s either under built, not a 14k trailer or the weight is incorrect.

 

[4570Man]

And that's actually on the lighter side for that size trailer. A HD 14k 20ft can be 4-4500lbs depending on options!.

I've been looking at a trailer to buy and this is the empty weight range of the ones I'm looking at.

I wouldn’t buy a 14k trailer that weighed that much. My 16k dump trailer weighs 4500-4600 pounds and my 24’ 20k trailers weighs 5500 pounds.

 

[Lineman North Florida]

I’m going to join the camp that says that’s either under built, not a 14k trailer or the weight is incorrect.

Might be underbuilt, but it has hauled any and everything and I have never had a problem with it or it could be that the trailer manufacturer falsified the weight but if they did they did it on probably well over several thousand of these trailers as they built a lot of them, but either way my under engineered /under built trailer would probably be a perfect fit for the OP, as I have hauled my little tractor with FEL and loaded rear tires with a 6' bush hog all over the place on it without issue.

 

[TMGT]

I wouldn’t buy a 14k trailer that weighed that much. My 16k dump trailer weighs 4500-4600 pounds and my 24’ 20k trailers weighs 5500 pounds.

Agreed, the trailers I'm looking at can be spc'd with 8k oil bath axles which is what I would do, but they are standard with 7k axles.

Most are heavy due to options like HD ramps, 12in OC crossmembers, oak decking etc. Or they are tilt decks.

One of my requirements is that it can hold my 9k lbs forlift, the point loading for it is pretty high, hence the higher spc'd trailer.

 

[Hay Dude]

Agreed, the trailers I'm looking at can be spc'd with 8k oil bath axles which is what I would do, but they are standard with 7k axles.

Most are heavy due to options like HD ramps, 12in OC crossmembers, oak decking etc. Or they are tilt decks.

One of my requirements is that it can hold my 9k lbs forlift, the point loading for it is pretty high, hence the higher spc'd trailer.

There are 7k oil baths. Just saw a Lamar dump with triple 7's-oil baths.

2021 Lamar 7x16' Gooseneck Dump Trailer 21000# GVW * DUAL JACKS * FULL TOOLBOX * OIL BATH * REAR JACKSTANDS * 7GA FLOOR * TRIPLE AXLE * TARP KIT * OVERSIZE 6X21.5" SCISSOR HOIST * CHARCOAL * RIGID RAILS * NESTLED I-BEAM FRAME 28" H * 12" O.C. C/M | B

<p>Unit is equipped with several upgrades, including: <br />Oversize 6x21.5 scissor hoist (rated over 11 tons) <br />Dual 12K jacks <br />7GA Floor <br />Charcoal powdercoat with black wheels <br />Tarp kit <br />Undermount ramps <br />12" O.C. floor <br />rear jackstands <br />Oil bath hubs <b

www.bestchoicetrailers.com

 

[4570Man]

There are 7k oil baths. Just saw a Lamar dump with triple 7's-oil baths.

2021 Lamar 7x16' Gooseneck Dump Trailer 21000# GVW * DUAL JACKS * FULL TOOLBOX * OIL BATH * REAR JACKSTANDS * 7GA FLOOR * TRIPLE AXLE * TARP KIT * OVERSIZE 6X21.5" SCISSOR HOIST * CHARCOAL * RIGID RAILS * NESTLED I-BEAM FRAME 28" H * 12" O.C. C/M | B

<p>Unit is equipped with several upgrades, including: <br />Oversize 6x21.5 scissor hoist (rated over 11 tons) <br />Dual 12K jacks <br />7GA Floor <br />Charcoal powdercoat with black wheels <br />Tarp kit <br />Undermount ramps <br />12" O.C. floor <br />rear jackstands <br />Oil bath hubs <b

www.bestchoicetrailers.com

My dump trailer with 8k axels has oil bath caps but the spindles are greased. If I knew the back seals would handle it it I’d dump oil in them.

 

[TMGT]

There are 7k oil baths. Just saw a Lamar dump with triple 7's-oil baths.

2021 Lamar 7x16' Gooseneck Dump Trailer 21000# GVW * DUAL JACKS * FULL TOOLBOX * OIL BATH * REAR JACKSTANDS * 7GA FLOOR * TRIPLE AXLE * TARP KIT * OVERSIZE 6X21.5" SCISSOR HOIST * CHARCOAL * RIGID RAILS * NESTLED I-BEAM FRAME 28" H * 12" O.C. C/M | B

<p>Unit is equipped with several upgrades, including: <br />Oversize 6x21.5 scissor hoist (rated over 11 tons) <br />Dual 12K jacks <br />7GA Floor <br />Charcoal powdercoat with black wheels <br />Tarp kit <br />Undermount ramps <br />12" O.C. floor <br />rear jackstands <br />Oil bath hubs <b

www.bestchoicetrailers.com

You can even get oil bath hubs for 3500lb axles if you want. Pluses and minuses to both. For my uses I think 8k axles either greased or oil would work, I just like oil because I hate packing bearings.

 

[TMGT]

My dump trailer with 8k axels has oil bath caps but the spindles are greased. If I knew the back seals would handle it it I’d dump oil in them.

Next time you work on the breaks just throw some oil style seals in them.

 

[Hay Dude]

You can even get oil bath hubs for 3500lb axles if you want. Pluses and minuses to both. For my uses I think 8k axles either greased or oil would work, I just like oil because I hate packing bearings.

Until you crack/break a hub, then you won’t like oil as much.
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