MJPetersen
Veteran Member
I really like my Esab C-170, 380 v/3ph, but that is not really an option for most of you.
I have a local dealer and can get everything that I need for it.
Mike
Mike
What are you guys using for a mig welder, what are your recommendations, specific brands to buy or stay away from? should I go for a 110 or 220 model. How much amperage do I really need? I hate to spend money on too much or too little welder. I will be using it for general repairs around the home and on my tractor. I would also like to fabricate items like trailers etc... Any good sources for buying this welder? Thanks for all your imput.![]()
No, my Lincoln Pro 100 was not the welder that I learned on. But it was my first welder many years ago. For many years, I had means or resources that I could get in contact with to use there welder if I needed to. After getting tired of using other peoples, my employers welder(s). I finally decided to buy my own welder. So, I purchased a Lincoln Pro 100 for my needs (auto restoration and drag racing). I've worked many years dealing with metal, so I knew what it took to bond two pieces of metal together. For welding, I learned how to weld with not a welder but a torch. I know your going to laugh at me, but I learned how to weld with a torch and a coat hanger. Most people laugh when I tell them that I can weld with a torch. They always call me a cheap skate (and of course a back yard hillbilly) thinking I don't own a mig welder. And of course, I tell them I have a mig welder and they ask how I learned how to weld with a torch. I learned the old school ways. Back in the days when hard working folks could not afford a mig welder. So, they used what they had on hand, a torch and coat hangers (ok, you can stop laughing now).Letsroll, I am just guessing here but your Lincoln 100 is not your first welder nor the welder you learned on???? Right??
For welding, I learned how to weld with not a welder but a torch. I know your going to laugh at me, but I learned how to weld with a torch and a coat hanger. Most people laugh when I tell them that I can weld with a torch. OK, who's turn is it now. Tag, your it.![]()
I have a miller 135XP (mig) and a Thunderbolt 225 ACDC stick. Both my welders have been great, but if i was going to do it all over again id go for a Millermatic 252.
I recommend a welding night course. You;ll learn the proper way to fit up joints, and get to try out some machines to see what you like.
You can make a really pretty looking weld with a mig, but it has no strength. People think mig is easy, and it is to a certain extent, but skill is required to get a sound joint.
I agree with your recommendations on the Millermatic 252. I have the Millermatic 251 which is a year older than the 252 and it can weld up to a 1/2 inch thick in one pass. It's basically took over where the stick welding used to be in my shop. I don't agree with you when you say Mig isn't strong. As a matter of fact I've never heard of anyone stating that in my life. In fifteen years welding basically everything from heavy equipment to structural steel I've never had a weld facture with the Mig process.
Even now when I go mobile with my Miller Trailblazer 302 I use the Mig process with it on site because of it's speed, appearance and strength. Arc welding will never be replaced and there will always be a need for it but I think Mig is the best advancement in welding since welding has been around.
I think the idea of MIG not being strong comes from the idea that pretty makes a good weld.
I see so many guys that go out and buy a purple welder,spend a few minutes playing with the knobs,and see welds fail. Properly prepped and executed,MIG will be as strong as arc,but most guys won't take the time to learn this....they wanna build things!! I personally believe that if you're gonna spend time learning,you might as well learn stick and save a bunch of money and time screwing around with feeds,liners,clogged tips,gas pressure......blah blah blah.
I think the idea of MIG not being strong comes from the idea that pretty makes a good weld.
I see so many guys that go out and buy a purple welder,spend a few minutes playing with the knobs,and see welds fail. Properly prepped and executed,MIG will be as strong as arc,but most guys won't take the time to learn this....they wanna build things!! I personally believe that if you're gonna spend time learning,you might as well learn stick and save a bunch of money and time screwing around with feeds,liners,clogged tips,gas pressure......blah blah blah.
Thats what i was getting at ( maybe i wasnt clear in my post). Of course mig can be strong. I was refering mostly to amateurs who use small migs at the high end of their rating and dont believe in or know about proper joint prepairation, but can leave the prettiest looking bead you'd ever see. Is it strong? Dont know, but i wouldnt chance it. Mig is the most common process for production welding.Do i think it has value and is a sound process when properly executed? You BET!!! . Ive welded things that take some of the worst vibrations possible (Rock Crushers) with mig. No problems.The fundamentals are equal or even more important with mig.Just cause its point and shoot, doesnt make it foolproof.