John Deere 1026r poor mowing results and poor loader dump control.

[BigMike50]

We . As for the curling while lifting on your loader, I have no problems with the 300cx on my 3320. I do it all the time. Have your dealer check that also.View attachment 319916

My machine is going in next week so ill check. but I have to tell you, I would love to see a video of your machine doing this if you have one because I have watched more than a dozen 300 and 200cx videos on youtube to verify this condition and every single last video exhibits the condition of only doing one operation at a time. not doing both. haven't seen a video yet of a machine raing while dumping.

 

[thatguy]

couple of my thoughts...

1) with a bigger deck you do get more of the scalping in ditches/banks/uneven ground.. My 2320 (one step up from you) has the 60" deck and will give uneven cuts on uneven ground.. I cut at about 4 to 4.5" - so the scalping isnt as bad as when you cut shorter..

2) These tractors have low flow hydraulic pumps (gal/min flow) - you have to run it close to the max RPM (for me that is 3,000 rpm's) to get the most out of the pump/FEL.. Larger tractors have much bigger pumps with more flow or dual pumps.. With my tractor you can do a curl/raise at the same time but its tricky to hit it just right in between the two positions.. Its really just easier to do one or the other..

3) When you are mowing around a tree where is the strip of grass being left? inner or outer width? if the JD is 'faster' than your old mower when you go around the trees the outer edge may be going too fast to give a good cut (i have the same issue around obstacles, but just learned to slow down).. Are you also running the engine at the recommended PTO speed when mowing?

4) I think that some of your problems will not improve by going up to a 2720.. That is a huge jump and you will get more pump flow but the cut may get worse..

5) I hated the cut the standard MMM blades gave.. I upgraded to Gator blades and the cut is much better and the clippings are tiny in comparison to the OEM blades

Brian

 

[BigMike50]

couple of my thoughts...

1) with a bigger deck you do get more of the scalping in ditches/banks/uneven ground.. My 2320 (one step up from you) has the 60" deck and will give uneven cuts on uneven ground.. I cut at about 4 to 4.5" - so the scalping isnt as bad as when you cut shorter..

2) These tractors have low flow hydraulic pumps (gal/min flow) - you have to run it close to the max RPM (for me that is 3,000 rpm's) to get the most out of the pump/FEL.. Larger tractors have much bigger pumps with more flow or dual pumps.. With my tractor you can do a curl/raise at the same time but its tricky to hit it just right in between the two positions.. Its really just easier to do one or the other..

3) When you are mowing around a tree where is the strip of grass being left? inner or outer width? if the JD is 'faster' than your old mower when you go around the trees the outer edge may be going too fast to give a good cut (i have the same issue around obstacles, but just learned to slow down).. Are you also running the engine at the recommended PTO speed when mowing?

4) I think that some of your problems will not improve by going up to a 2720.. That is a huge jump and you will get more pump flow but the cut may get worse..

5) I hated the cut the standard MMM blades gave.. I upgraded to Gator blades and the cut is much better and the clippings are tiny in comparison to the OEM blades

Brian

I noticed that, you have to go super slow with the stick right? if you go full bore with the raise and dump, it wont do both functions. makes sense. doesn't work well with high productivity like loading trucks. also the manual states the joystick only has 4 positions of operating ability and no in betweens like a cat backhoe or something of the likes. so I can see by feathering the joystick you can manipulate it.

 

[nikdfish]

I can verify that my 1025r FILB does the same thing with regards to H120 FEL joystick operations (I have not seen the dump interruption you mentioned, though.). One function at at time, lift/drop/curl/dump - no combos. The 305 loader on the 3038E is a different critter & combo functions are no problem.

Nick

 

[murphy1244]

I don't think you will get the same cut as your Simplicity, its in the Deck design.

 

[just for fun]

I think we just solved that problem. :drink: You have a tractor size tiller on a lawnmower. I bet it does do a nice job with that much weight and 6 tines per flange. Does it push you forward much?

I bought this tiller after reading of others with the same and similiar sized tractors having no issues. It does a great job on the dirt. I just need the front ballast weight to keep the tires on the groung when going up hills. I have several. I have not experienced the tiller pushing the tractor at all. Once the tiller is in the ground it is a great combination.

 

[just for fun]

I would like to thank everyone for their responses. It is good to have some great ideas. Most of the time all you get from the dealers and manufactures is " I have never seen or heard that before". The tractor is going back to the dealer tomorrow for some of these issues. I have to demonstrate my concerns to the person picking it up in the morning. I will try running the loader at full rpm and see if that makes a difference.

My uneven cut is on the outer side of the circle and the cut is lower. I am running the engine at the proper speed and mowing at a slower rate of speed than the legacy. I don't like the banging on my back from the seat bottoming out (sorry for brining up a new issue) so I mow slower.

If I go to the 2720 I will not get a mower, I will by a zero turn. I have heard about the gator blades, they were not available for the legacy. I will give them a try. Thanks Again

 

[jd670]

BigMike, i'll try to put together a video for you tomorrow.

 

[Nooodles]

That's awgata

 

[pinetree10]

Now for the loader. First I am not use to a loader that does not allow you to rotate the bucket while raising or lowering the boom, something I will have to get use to. I was moving some rocks around the yard yesterday and noticed that after raising the boom in preparation of dumping the load the bucket rotated very slowly, stopped and then continued at normal rate or even a little faster. This is quite annoying and difficult to control. Just so you know this in not my first loader tractor but it is my first sub compact tractor. Again any experiences with this condition will help.

I am not ready to go orange but I am almost ready to go 2720 even though it is too big for my 2.5 acres.

I also have 2.5 acres and own a 2012 2720. It has proven to be a good decision to own the larger framed tractor because I've moved a lot of dirt and done some excavating that probably would have taken a bit longer and been a lot harder on a smaller tractor. Most of the property is heavily wooded and the high clearance has also been a plus with clearing stumps and debris.

I have also noticed that the dumping action can be choppy depending on the position of the control lever. It seems like it has to be just in the right position to dump quickly or it moves very slowly. Maybe it's because the RPMs aren't high enough. I'll have to give that a try next time I use it. I agree that it would be nice to be able to perform two functions simultaneously rather than one at a time. Maybe it's just because it's a smaller piece of equipment with a smaller hydraulic pump?