Increasing 110 tlb loader lift capacity

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ME83

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JD 110 TLB
I have had my 110 for about 4 years now. The one thing I really wish it had is more lift capacity for the front loader. Comparing it's numbers to the 400cx loader, the 110 has about 13% more capacity. This seems like a very small difference especially when looking at how much heavier the 110 loader is built. The hydraulic pressure is already 3000 psi per spec (which is 17% higher than 4x20 series); the pressure seems high enough as is and I prefer to not increase it.

Has anyone here increased their hydraulic pressure on a 110?

I would rather look into swapping the cylinders out for a larger bore cylinder. Anyone done anything like this or have any concerns/suggestions?

Thanks,
Mark
 
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Just keep in mind that the hyd cylinders on the 110 are the same grade/duty level as the construction side so are built to a different requirement than the cylinders for a 400x loader. Deere has a series definition for each cylinder grade, I am forgeting them right now I want to think they call the cylinders on the yellow stuff 200 series?? I only mention because you could end up going down in cylinder quality. How much do you want a #7-7,500 machine to lift?
 
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My friendly advice is to leave it alone! The 110 has incredible FEL capability for the size machine it's affixed to imo. This machine like others has been professionally engineered and as such the components are all matched to each other. If you oversize one component another component will be directly affected and thus undersized.
 
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Every now and then... I wish that the FEL would have a bit more lifting capacity. Although, I have found myself seriously wishing I hadn't picked up that heavy a load, too! That thought has crossed my mind just about the time that one of the rear wheels comes off the ground and the tractor is doing a 3-legged pirouet!

So, I've left well enough alone...

The backhoe unit with HD 20" bucket and thumb and cylinder guards is over 2,000lbs (1,980 with 18" bucket OEM). So, what type of rear ballast would you consider using if the loader capacity was increased?

AKfish
 
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I want a hoe thumb...they're cool! Can you send a pic AKfish?
 
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Here are some pictures of my thumb and hoe, 321647i_20.jpeg20120807_163630.jpgTLB 110 Clode up pics 002.jpgTLB 110 Clode up pics 003.jpg
 
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Nice!!! There's been times where a thumb would have been really handy! Specifically concrete removal, seperating roots and dirt in a pile, cleaning my fence row (from either side), loading cross ties on a trailer and a million other chores/jobs!! An extendable hoe would be sweet too!! For that extra reach! I saw a backhoe the other day with a pivoting dipper arm. Not sure if I called that right but basically the backhoe pivots between the boom and dipper...crazy! Cool concept for digging right against a house footing or fence etc...
 
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PBettis the thumb is one of those items that if you never had it you may not miss it but once you have had , used or seen one in action it becomes a must have.
There is a ytube channel of a guy from up here in Canada called Billstmaxx he has a TLB 110 and post allot of videos( many with the 110). He posted a series of videos of him making a thumb for his TLB110. You may want to check it out.
 
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Have any of the 110TLB owners checked their releif pressures to see what the as found setting is? Wonder what the spec setting is also?
 
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Here is a few photos that i had on file when i was looking for my 110 (stolen photos from web sites)


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Clearing trees has always been the time when I'm most likely to have moments when the tractor can get "light in the @ss"! Generally, it's when I grab onto a pile and they're pretty long... quite a bit of lateral force on the loader and can make the tractor tippy. Try to center the load if the trees are big - and back off - when they're just too many big ones. Smaller bites...

Frozen stumps and root wads are "burn projects". Can take a couple of weeks to get them burned down to ash. Here's a pic of me tryin' to get the fire goin' again and adding another stump to the burn.
 

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AKfish...this is back before you put a cab on the 110 huh? So now you got some heat blasting in the cab?
 
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AKfish...this is back before you put a cab on the 110 huh? So now you got some heat blasting in the cab?

I wish I had a cab on the 110... no such luck! Steve's got a Laurin cab on his 110. Would have added around $8K to the cost of the machine... really hard to get the wife onboard with a $50K price tag! :eek:

Of course, when she had a few year's learning how to use the tractor and could see how that machine "changed" our farm - it was pretty easy getting her to agree to buying a CAB 5075M! :thumbsup:

AKfish
 
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The backhoe unit with HD 20" bucket and thumb and cylinder guards is over 2,000lbs (1,980 with 18" bucket OEM). So, what type of rear ballast would you consider using if the loader capacity was increased?

AKfish

The backhoe stays on whenever I am digging and moving a lot of material, which is when I want the extra capacity. I also have the rear tires loaded with rim guard, which adds about 1100 lbs.

I am not looking to double the capacity, but it just seems that this is a much heavier built tractor than the 4000 series, yet can only lift several hundred pounds more. The other newer loader I have used is a Kubota 4240 with the 853 loader. It will lift the same weight but is flimsy in comparison. I have used quite a few older tractors and any of the industrial ones were truly industrial.

Everything about the 110 is industrial except for it's loader capacity. It has a very good design with the thicker steel on the top and bottom of the loader arms, heavy cast iron masts for the loader, heavy frame, heavier front axle, etc. I just feel a little larger lift cylinders would complete the package.
 
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The 110 is a well made machine and i am happy with mine. While i would like more lift capacity i recognize there are limits to everything. While the fel is strong and well made this tracgtor is only six feet wide so stability with high loads might be the issue rather the strength of the fel and frame. Having the rimguard in the rear tires is not recommended as per the manual.

i am sure you could put larger diameter cylinders on the fel and lift more but i would think you are on your own with that. Whatever you decide be careful and let us know how it works out. Sounds to me like you should have bought a 310 or Kubota m59.
 
 
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