Hydraulic SSQA idea

[TMGT]

Yes exactly. I swap between forks and bucket attachments quite a bit and that's really what it will be used for. The valve will be mounted right by the seat for easy operation.

Are you taking about mounting the manual diverter by the seat?

 

[TMGT]

What about changing back and forth between buckets and forks and other inplements that have no hydraulics? I would rather be able to operate it from the seat otherwise I can just flip the levers if I am up front anyway...

You still wouldn't have to get of the tractor to switch implements, only when connecting something that's going to use the 3rd function, which you would have to get off to connect the hoses anyway.

 

[Fields_mj]

I don't have the additional hydraulic circuit on my tractor yet, but its on my list of things to do because I do want a grapple, and being able to hydraulicly articulate my snow plow would be NICE! With that said, I think this is what I want to do for operating the SSQA.

Inexpensive, easy to install, easy to revert back to manual, easy to maintain, easy to replace, and seems to be holding up well.

 

[JeepHead]

Are you taking about mounting the manual diverter by the seat?

Yup!

 

[JeepHead]

I don't have the additional hydraulic circuit on my tractor yet, but its on my list of things to do because I do want a grapple, and being able to hydraulicly articulate my snow plow would be NICE! With that said, I think this is what I want to do for operating the SSQA.

Inexpensive, easy to install, easy to revert back to manual, easy to maintain, easy to replace, and seems to be holding up well.

I thought about doing the electric version of it, but think I would rather do it with hydraulics.

 

[scootr]

Getting off and on my tractor to lock the QA pins is a big part of my exercise program

 

[TMGT]

Yup!

I would mount it on the loader at the 3rd function quick couplers, save you from running additional hoses.

 

[TMGT]

I don't have the additional hydraulic circuit on my tractor yet, but its on my list of things to do because I do want a grapple, and being able to hydraulicly articulate my snow plow would be NICE! With that said, I think this is what I want to do for operating the SSQA.

Inexpensive, easy to install, easy to revert back to manual, easy to maintain, easy to replace, and seems to be holding up well.

What's your total cost with wiring relays connector etc. end up being?

 

[JeepHead]

I would mount it on the loader at the 3rd function quick couplers, save you from running additional hoses.

I plan to do a manual valve. I suppose I could do an electric one and mount the valve on the loader.

 

[JeepHead]

What's your total cost with wiring relays connector etc. end up being?

It can be done pretty cheap with an electric actuator.

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

 

[TMGT]

I plan to do a manual valve. I suppose I could do an electric one and mount the valve on the loader.

You don't need an electric to go on the loader.

You leave the diverter in the ssqa position and use your 3rd function to actuate the ssqa.

If you mount an implement such as a grapple, you would mount it, get off the tractor, hook up your hydraulics hoses, then switch the diverter to the quick couplers for the implement and leave it in that position until you are ready to remove it.

Then, you would disconnect the hoses, switch the diverter back to the ssqa, and detach the implement from the seat.

No need to get off to switch the diverter, unless you have to hook up hoses, which means you'll be off the tractor anyways.

Only reason to run a second set of lines to the front is if you want to be able to run 2 cylinders on an implement from the 3rd function from the seat.

 

[TMGT]

It can be done pretty cheap with an electric actuator.

Amazon.com

Amazon.com

I wonder how well those cheaper linear actuators hold up in that application.

And just an FYI, you only need 8in of stroke, the cylinder I used was a 1"x8"x0.625"

 

[NYlumberman]

I’m not sure if I would want full hydraulic pressure available to the SSQA. My old New Holland skid steer used the back pressure from a return line and an electric valve to actuate the SSQA. My current JCB uses an electric linear actuator. Both limit the force applied. I am probably not the only guy to not have an implement perfectly seated before hitting the actuator, I bent the flange a bit. Easy fix, but if I had full power it would have been ugly. I stuck with the manual levers on my tractor.

 

[JeepHead]

I wonder how well those cheaper linear actuators hold up in that application.

And just an FYI, you only need 8in of stroke, the cylinder I used was a 1"x8"x0.625"

That link was just to the actuator which has multiple size options.

 

[jigs_n_fixtures]

I have been considering converting my SSQA on my Kubota to hydraulic. I have a true 3rd function operated off a Summit valve. I was thinking about using a manual splitter valve so that I switch a lever one way and it controls the SSQA cylinder, and then flip the other way and it's back to running my grapple. Anyone used one of these valves before?

Manual Hydraulic Multiplier, Splitter / Diverter Valve

Manual Hydraulic Multiplier, Splitter / Diverter Valve

summit-hydraulics.com

The other option is an electric linear actutator. DIY MyWay did that on his tractor.

 

[Sportsman762]

What about changing back and forth between buckets and forks and other inplements that have no hydraulics? I would rather be able to operate it from the seat otherwise I can just flip the levers if I am up front anyway...

You would leave the diverter valve set to the hydraulic SSQA (skid steer quick attach) and not on the 3rd function. You do not need a 3rd function for buckets or forks. The hydraulic SSQA would then function from the seat but 3rd function would not. If you need 3rd function then when you hook up the attachment hydraulic lines you switch the diverter valve. This eliminates having to run two sets (4 lines) down the loader arms.

You should never unhook an attachment from the tractor with the 3rd function hydraulic lines hooked up as you might rip them off. Having to get off the tractor to unhook the hydraulic lines means your right next to the diverter valve and you can switch it to hydraulic SSQA from 3rd function.

You would never need 3rd function until you hook up the attachments hydraulic lines. You have to get off the tractor to hook the hydraulic lines up, at that point you could switch the diverter valve from 3rd function to hydraulic SSQA.

If your moving from non hydraulic attachment to non hydraulic attachment your diverter on the loader is already set to hydraulic SSQA, otherwise you were unable to unattached the grapple. Since the diverter is already set to SSQA it can hook and unhook attachments from the seat, until you need to operate the 3rd function.

 

[JeepHead]

You would leave the diverter valve set to the hydraulic SSQA (skid steer quick attach) and not on the 3rd function. You do not need a 3rd function for buckets or forks. The hydraulic SSQA would then function from the seat but 3rd function would not. If you need 3rd function then when you hook up the attachment hydraulic lines you switch the diverter valve. This eliminates having to run two sets (4 lines) down the loader arms.

You should never unhook an attachment from the tractor with the 3rd function hydraulic lines hooked up as you might rip them off. Having to get off the tractor to unhook the hydraulic lines means your right next to the diverter valve and you can switch it to hydraulic SSQA from 3rd function.

You would never need 3rd function until you hook up the attachments hydraulic lines. You have to get off the tractor to hook the hydraulic lines up, at that point you could switch the diverter valve from 3rd function to hydraulic SSQA.

If your moving from non hydraulic attachment to non hydraulic attachment your diverter on the loader is already set to hydraulic SSQA, otherwise you were unable to unattached the grapple. Since the diverter is already set to SSQA it can hook and unhook attachments from the seat, until you need to operate the 3rd function.

I get what you're saying now and it makes perfect sense.

 

[jonsstihl]

I don't know how much that valve is but I used two valves. one for each line. I have a post about it somewhere on here. cost me about 500$ to put it on. but I did bend one of the links that are between the lever and the pin, probably when hooking up not perfectly aligned. the links are 140$ each but so far they have not broken and are still doing the job. there is a little play in the pins with the springs in the stock setup so I don't think it is an issue. the only issue I have had is keeping the bolts holding the cylinder onto the levers tight. I upped the torque spec to the max for the size of the bolt and used some blue loctite. we will see if that holds better. both ends of the cylinder are swivels so the rotation of the joint shouldn't be causing the loosening.

 

[Fields_mj]

What's your total cost with wiring relays connector etc. end up being?

I didn't build that. Its someone else's video, but its something that I'd like to do to my machine. If you had to buy everything new, I'd say the total cost is well under $200. Probably under $100, especially if you use the $40 amazon actuator (current price is closer to $45 IIRC).

 

[Fallon]

I put an electric one on my previous tractor. Linear actuator for power SSQA?. I have picked up a manual diverter & small cylinder to do it hydraulically on my new (well, now at 1,000 hours) L4060. I installed the manual diverter on the boom on the 3rd function. But I have never gotten around to mounting up the cylinder & making hoses. Really should finish that project one of these days

By reusing the 3rd function I'll save some cost & plumbing. Just leave the diverter set to the power SSQA. If you ever need to hook up a hydraulic implement, hitch up first. Then get off the machine to hook up hoses & then hit the diverter at after the hoses. Reverse order to unhitch. Remove hoses, flip diverter & you are back to power SSQA. No need to run a whole separate circuit for just the SSQA & you have to get on or off the machine to deal with hoses for hydraulic implements anyway.