How quickly can it happen?

   / How quickly can it happen? #21  
That's one channel I'll never watch again. Putting yourself at risk for the sake of hits on a channel. Not the sharpest knife in the drawer.

BTW, I learned that lesson when I was 13, on a garden tractor. I have the scar on my leg to prove it. No video cameras back in 1965!
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #22  
My brother was helping my Dad plant corn when he was 13 yoa. I was helping another farmer bale hay at the time. My brother was driving an Oliver 77 tractor and he pulled out on the road from a field. There was no power steering and he couldn't straighten the steering fast enough and the front of the tractor went up the bank on the side of the road and stopped with the narrow front end straight up. Gas came pouring out of the tank right into the battery and my brother. They lit up when the battery sparked. My brother suffered some serious burns and was in the hospital for a few months. He recovered with only some major scars on his legs, arms and torso. A neighbor drove up on it and drug my brother away from the tractor and rolled him to put the fire out. Unfortunately right into some healthy poison ivy. There were no seat belts in those days and a seat belt would have made matters worse.
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #23  
I watched an AI narrated video on Youtube a few months ago, something like "The 10 most dangerous things about antique tractors." One of those dangerous things was how much more likely a narrow front tractor is to roll over than a wide front. They showed several filmed examples of tractors rolling over, most of which could have been easily avoided by a competent operator.

Thing is, the most spectacular rollover scene they showed, which they showed over and over again through the video, was with a wide-front tractor...
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #25  

I'm sure this is not new, but it is graphic!

But how did they get all those camera angles?
In the event of a rollover, seatbelts only work in vehicles that have ROPS and cars and trucks where there is something similar to ROPS. Even convertibles today are designed with the windshield frame and sometimes an additional rear feature to act as ROPS.

You need to weigh the safety advantage of say a garden tractor with no ROPS. They often come with seatbelts I believe I would much rather fall away from it than be strapped in.

With cars and trucks there are those that don't believe in seatbelts and think they are an entrapment issue.
I'd bet if you talked to EMS people they would argue that.
I personally have seen a young kid who was literally torn out of his Mustang.. no seatbelt. I ran down the embankment. The car was not badly damaged. He was laying about 30 ft away. No sign of injury or blood. Read the next day he succumbed to internal injuries.
That centrifugal force will rip you out of your vehicle in a roll.
And in a rear ender, back seat passengers go through the back window and land on the vehicle behind them sometimes. Not sure if it's safer to be strapped in a cushioned seat if that seat gets torn off it's mounts because the seatbelts are anchored to the vehicle body.
 
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   / How quickly can it happen? #26  
Can Artificial intelligence "construct" multiple perspectives from a single view point?
From a single view point it can, but just like a human artist doing the same with a still photo, some incorrect assumptions about size and depth may be made. For example, I just used AI to generate an image of our two dogs as two of the deer on Santa's sleigh, as a fun little thing to print on the back of our Christmas cards. This is something that'd have taken me an hour or three with Photoshop a few years ago, but took me all of 5 seconds to upload a photo and type what I wanted into chatGPT. In any case, it did a great job, except because the photo I uploaded only had one view/perspective with our 13 lb. dog in the foreground and our 32 lb. dog in the background, chatGPT assumed they must be the same size.

Uploading multiple images would have allowed it to see the animals from more sides and make better assumptions about relative size, etc. Likewise with video, but my God... the processing power to synchronize every frame of a few minutes of video! That'd be 36,000 images uploaded and sync'd into pairs, to generate another 18,000 frames for just 5 minutes of video at 60 fps. 😲 People complain about data center power usage? :unsure: :ROFLMAO:

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   / How quickly can it happen? #27  
It also decided to put snow on the antlers, but not there ears ... And the ropes/reins don't go anywhere ... If there was a double lead up front there would be four, if it was a single leader, both would be down the middle between both dogs ...
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #30  
It also decided to put snow on the antlers, but not there ears ... And the ropes/reins don't go anywhere ... If there was a double lead up front there would be four, if it was a single leader, both would be down the middle between both dogs ...
Exactly. I could've had it fix all those problems with more time and effort, but this was just a quick 30 second job for a stupid goofy image to go on the back of my wife's Christmas cards. :D

Now, imagine making such corrections times 18,000 images for just 5 minutes of video?!? Oof!
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #31  
I remember this type of horse rearing when I was younger like 45 years ago.
I grew up with tractors and I don’t remember them wanting to roll as quick as today’s tractors. (mine included)
I’m taking about side rolling.
I don’t know if it’s just me, having took a good 20 year break from being in tractor seats, or if the stance, wheel base was wider.
I have done everything with my excavator and maybe a few hours on skid steer.,,.BobKitty.
But even with a roll bar that mine has today. I am super cautious or aware, back then the word roll bar or cage almost hadn't been spelled yet.
And the units then were a ford 600 and a ford 4000 with F.E.L and backhoe it was an old state bushing tractor with hydmatic selectospeed I think it had 13 forward and 2 reverse speeds. It was a clumsy dinosaur. But it severed well.
And again this was early and mid 70’s.
Be careful and pay attention guys.
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #32  
The olivers wheels did not move. The Transmission was in Gear. "AI= another idiot" Those rear tires didn't budge. 2WD. and the front also. Pull it backwards with a loader? Did he know it was locked up?
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #33  
   / How quickly can it happen? #35  
If he made a post that stuck up 15 ft above the tractor to connect his chain to, perhaps that would have made it more obvious to him what was going to happen by moving the attachment point above it's center of gravity?
It really isn't the center of gravity though. The drawbar connects below the rear axle. That has the affect of pulling the rear end up and front end down. It will cause the tractor to lose traction vs. rolling up and over. Hooking above the rear axle is what gets people in trouble and the three point hitch connects above the axle. Even if you lower the three point hitch all the way down and it "looks" like it's below the axle, the actual connection to the tractor is still above the axle.
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #37  
It really isn't the center of gravity though. The drawbar connects below the rear axle. That has the affect of pulling the rear end up and front end down. It will cause the tractor to lose traction vs. rolling up and over. Hooking above the rear axle is what gets people in trouble and the three point hitch connects above the axle. Even if you lower the three point hitch all the way down and it "looks" like it's below the axle, the actual connection to the tractor is still above the axle.
There are 2 lower links below axle centreline with a 3 point hitch.
Lowering the hitch is crucial.
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #38  
From a single view point it can, but just like a human artist doing the same with a still photo, some incorrect assumptions about size and depth may be made. For example, I just used AI to generate an image of our two dogs as two of the deer on Santa's sleigh, as a fun little thing to print on the back of our Christmas cards. This is something that'd have taken me an hour or three with Photoshop a few years ago, but took me all of 5 seconds to upload a photo and type what I wanted into chatGPT. In any case, it did a great job, except because the photo I uploaded only had one view/perspective with our 13 lb. dog in the foreground and our 32 lb. dog in the background, chatGPT assumed they must be the same size.

Uploading multiple images would have allowed it to see the animals from more sides and make better assumptions about relative size, etc. Likewise with video, but my God... the processing power to synchronize every frame of a few minutes of video! That'd be 36,000 images uploaded and sync'd into pairs, to generate another 18,000 frames for just 5 minutes of video at 60 fps. 😲 People complain about data center power usage? :unsure: :ROFLMAO:

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   / How quickly can it happen? #39  
AI is the new nuclear invention
Well, who has the best AI will be a huge factor in determining the outcome of any future first-world conflict. That much is true!
 
   / How quickly can it happen? #40  
From a single view point it can, but just like a human artist doing the same with a still photo, some incorrect assumptions about size and depth may be made. For example, I just used AI to generate an image of our two dogs as two of the deer on Santa's sleigh, as a fun little thing to print on the back of our Christmas cards. This is something that'd have taken me an hour or three with Photoshop a few years ago, but took me all of 5 seconds to upload a photo and type what I wanted into chatGPT. In any case, it did a great job, except because the photo I uploaded only had one view/perspective with our 13 lb. dog in the foreground and our 32 lb. dog in the background, chatGPT assumed they must be the same size.

Uploading multiple images would have allowed it to see the animals from more sides and make better assumptions about relative size, etc. Likewise with video, but my God... the processing power to synchronize every frame of a few minutes of video! That'd be 36,000 images uploaded and sync'd into pairs, to generate another 18,000 frames for just 5 minutes of video at 60 fps. 😲 People complain about data center power usage? :unsure: :ROFLMAO:

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