Help - Rolled my JD4710.

   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #41  
Unrelated to your situation, that Xtra Armor is really neat. I had to look it up after I saw your tractor, I've never seen it before.

Very cool.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #42  
I'm glad you survived. Before you try to crank it, let it sit upright a while. It'll have engine oil on top of the pistons. If you try to crank it, it'll probably hydraulic the engine and bend a rod. I'd start by barring the engine over by hand until you get at least two full turns.

If that doesn't happen, then I'd loosen the injector hold downs so it can blead pressure out that way.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #43  
Get an experienced Operator with the right equipment. Be sure it is anchored by a separate line so it won't roll further when back on its' wheels.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #44  
It is laying on it's side. How big of a winch does it take to pull it back upright? Was considering pulling on the loader mount at mid tractor.
If the winch you’re using doesn’t have enough pulling power to the weight of the tractor plus resistance, try a snatch block to double the pulling power. You’ve received some great advice from others too. I can’t add anything to their comments!!
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #45  
It is laying on it's side. How big of a winch does it take to pull it back upright? Was considering pulling on the loader mount at mid tractor.
Been there done that -- more than once!
My Kubota B20 weighs around 2K with loader and Bush Hog so it's not as heavy as yours.
I have used a truck, my Suburban, and even my YukonXL Denali to get it back on it's feet.
Get someone to help as two minds are sometimes safer than one.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #46  
For anyone who happens to want to know what worked to right a rolled Chinese diesel 25hp 4WD:
I've had to do it twice! The first time I called in a AAA large-size tow truck with their recovery cable led to a snatch block up on a pine tree above the tractor. No problem.
The next time my son rolled it. I wasn't there, but I told him to rig the rear mounted Harbor Fright 12,000lb electric winch to a snatch block on a tree, high enough above the tractor to pull it more upwards than sideways. He did that, and it came back up OK. There was enough battery power to the job.
One really good reason to have an AGM type sealed battery in the tractor is No battery acid leaking when it's on its side!
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #47  
Not sure about the size of the winch you need, maybe post some pictures so experienced members can best help you in that area. Whatever you do once you get it back on its wheels, do not try to start it right away, or serious engine damage will occur. Take your time, read up on this subject as much as you can, and again, do not try to start it before going thru a specific procedure. If you get in to much of a hurry, and try to start it without going thru several very important steps, SEVERE ENGINE DAMAGE WILL OCCUR, AND IT WILL BE VERY COSTLY !
If you use a snatch block with the winch it will double the pulling weight…. I just hope you have a way to anchor the winch.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #48  
Glad to see you're okay and that you had the ROPS up unlike most of my neighbors who run around with the ROPS folded all the time.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #49  
The safety protocol for tractors with ROPS extended is to always use a seat-belt; but if you'd had a seat-belt on you wouldn't be here.
An aside; my nephew laid his MF 231 on its side. He got it upright and started it, then drove it home. However that was one afternoon, not overnight.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #50  
Using an "A" frame, along with winch or tackle, can simplify things by changing the angle of pull to a bit more upwards when trying to right things. This idea is commonly used when pulling stumps etc., but can be incorporated in righting vehicles as well. For a model, see 1 minute video:
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #51  
When I was still living at home we used an H with a "loader" (manure scoop) to load round bales on truck. On one bale, the loader "swung" to the right a few inches and was just enough of a shift to make the tractor roll onto it's side. This was in a flat hayfield. We just used the truck (a 1/2 ton at that) with a bale in the back and a cable. Hooked it high on the wheel and gave a slow steady pull. Everything righted up. If you place your chain/cable up high somewhere it will come over with less force required than you might think. Might even be able to use a come-a-long with a chain or cable?

An H w/loader is probably similar in weight to your tractor.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #52  
Remember, you're not lifting the full #4000 Lbs, you're only rolling at most #2000 lbs.
I did the same thing with my little JD-770 with the loader and brush cutter on many moons ago. Mowed over the same dang area for years but decided to move over another foot and found a hole I'd never seen before. Not as bad of an incline as yours but close. Only my problem was I was on a slope and tipped onto a flatter area and when I tipped it back up I was still on the slope.

I had no problem rolling it back up with my bronco and a strap. I lucked out as it was only on it's side for a couple of hours so while I was thinking what to do after I got it up the oil had time to drain back and I just started it back up and was able to maneuver just enough for flat ground with the strap still on just in case.

Years later the neighbors contractor when he built his house tipped his mini excavator over and asked me if I could pull it out but I told him my tractor was too light and just use his truck and a strap to tip it back up and it worked great.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #54  
I'm pretty sure that i could get that tractor back on its wheels and deal with it afterwards.

BUT

I WOULD HIRE A WRECKER!
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #55  
I was tired and in a hurry but Stupidity was the root cause.
It's steep slope going into the bottoms. Varies between 25% and 35%. I was blading the road because it had some deep washes. I was blading uphill and realized I neglected to put it in range one. Got to a water bar where it was a bit leveler and switched to range one. Instead of continuing up the hill I decided to back blade a spot ( super stupid). Don't have mirrors so was twisted in the seat. Backed off the water bar and she started free wheeling. Must have jumped into neutral ( my fault not the tractors). My brakes aren't the best so something had to give. No way I would have survived the stop if I continued the ride down the hill. I tried a controlled turn and she rolled over. I was very lucky. Not sure if I jammed the loader down to see if that would slow me down or not. The box blade was not set to back cut so it just bounced. Ive used tractors since I was a kid, 60+ now. So many errors and I call myself careful.
Did you have the seat belt on?
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #56  
The safety protocol for tractors with ROPS extended is to always use a seat-belt; but if you'd had a seat-belt on you wouldn't be here.
An aside; my nephew laid his MF 231 on its side. He got it upright and started it, then drove it home. However that was one afternoon, not overnight.
How do you know he didn't have the seatbelt on?

Why would he not have survived?
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #57  
Pull down through the rear wheel . That's your high point to low point. As mentioned, a come al9ng should pull her back on her feet.
I was going to say, strap the rear wheel, not the ROPS. If you do the ROPS you can over-pull, but it's much harder to do that with the rear wheel. Also stops the tractor from rolling forward once it's back with the rubber side down.
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #59  
Any updates on the condition of the tractor now that it's upright? Was there much movement of fluids to places where it shouldn't be? Does it bar over?
 
   / Help - Rolled my JD4710. #60  
How do you know he didn't have the seatbelt on?

Why would he not have survived?
Look at the condition of the seat in the picture.
 

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