Got weighed

[dnw64]

So, you have 1600# of payload. At 10-15% tongue weight, that's 1000-1500# of your payload used for a 10k trailer. Not a lot of weight left for the driver, passengers or other cargo in the truck.

Aaron Z

Right, just as you would expect.

MAXIMUM TRAILER WEIGHT is exactly that. No more, no less. It means the most you can do in the best possible scenario. I think you'll find the same on any advertised figures for any brand and/or class of truck.

 

[oosik]

Now, hold it. That is for a utility trailer where tongue weight is important. If you have a farm wagon, as I do, tongue weight means nothing. However, with the off- road suspension on the Taco Wagon I still have only 1000# carrying capacity for the entire pickup.

 

[aczlan]

Right, just as you would expect.

MAXIMUM TRAILER WEIGHT is exactly that. No more, no less. It means the most you can do in the best possible scenario. I think you'll find the same on any advertised figures for any brand and/or class of truck.

Take a look at those specs for a 2015+ F150, you will find that they can (with Max Tow and Max Payload) have 4 250# guys in the cab, 800# of stuff in the bed AND a 12,000# trailer on back with 10% tongue weight...

Aaron Z

 

[oosik]

If you have 4 - 250 pound guys in the cab -- you darn well better be stopping at an all-you-can-eat buffet. When they all get hungry.

 

[Sono]

This explains it all...

Towing a trailer can be dangerous with the wrong weight distribution - YouTube

and a better visual...
Tongue Weight Safety Demonstration - YouTube

 

[dnw64]

Take a look at those specs for a 2015+ F150, you will find that they can (with Max Tow and Max Payload) have 4 250# guys in the cab, 800# of stuff in the bed AND a 12,000# trailer on back with 10% tongue weight...

I don't have (and don't want) and F150, so that is totally irrelevant to me.

 

[prof fate]

had a sliverado 1500 and now have an F350. Both look like pickup trucks.

BUT that's about where it stops.

The 350 has heaver frame (thicker steel), extra support on the driveshaft (like medium duty trucks), huge brakes, free float rear axle, 8 lug nut wheel/hubs, 10 ply tires, MUCH bigger brakes. Much bigger springs as well.

Difference between, say a bicycle frame and a motorcycle frame.

The entire dynamics of the vehicle are different - a 1500 is a CAR. A 350 is a work truck. The 250 is a nice middle ground good for light work or heavy 'consumer' use.

Folks overload all the time. I've run at the limit of one thing or another at times - and survived.

Like my Kioti - rated to lift 1800lb on the loader. Even if that isn't including the bucket/forks, I should get 1500 real lift, right? Nope. 1000 give or take 50lb with loaded rear tires. And it's sketchy as all ****. PUt a big implement on the back (1000lb-ish) and it keeps the rear wheel on the ground more consistently, but it's not a load you're gonna wanna go fast with , lift high, or go down a grade with.

So there is a rating...how/where they get it I'm not sure. How much margin of error is there? Is your truck NEW or worn? How much does that rating drop with non-oem brakes/rotors/shocks, wear and mileage?

 

[dodge man]

In the real world, I don't think you will find a F150 with 3000 lbs of payload. About 2500 is the most they get up to.

 

[aczlan]

In the real world, I don't think you will find a F150 with 3000 lbs of payload. About 2500 is the most they get up to.

2799# is possible:
Lance 65 - Short Bed, Half Ton Truck Camper - 8

Aaron Z

 

[Sono]

had a sliverado 1500 and now have an F350. Both look like pickup trucks.

BUT that's about where it stops.

The 350 has heaver frame (thicker steel), extra support on the driveshaft (like medium duty trucks), huge brakes, free float rear axle, 8 lug nut wheel/hubs, 10 ply tires, MUCH bigger brakes. Much bigger springs as well.

Difference between, say a bicycle frame and a motorcycle frame.

The entire dynamics of the vehicle are different - a 1500 is a CAR. A 350 is a work truck. The 250 is a nice middle ground good for light work or heavy 'consumer' use.

Folks overload all the time. I've run at the limit of one thing or another at times - and survived.

Like my Kioti - rated to lift 1800lb on the loader. Even if that isn't including the bucket/forks, I should get 1500 real lift, right? Nope. 1000 give or take 50lb with loaded rear tires. And it's sketchy as all ****. PUt a big implement on the back (1000lb-ish) and it keeps the rear wheel on the ground more consistently, but it's not a load you're gonna wanna go fast with , lift high, or go down a grade with.

So there is a rating...how/where they get it I'm not sure. How much margin of error is there? Is your truck NEW or worn? How much does that rating drop with non-oem brakes/rotors/shocks, wear and mileage?

Been there , done that....