got me a new trailer

[scoutcub]

Nice deal on a nice trailer!
Agree with flusher, get it weighed to know exactly.
I have a 30' (25+5) tandem dually, and it's #7500.

 

[LD1]

Econoline Trailers - Viewing 20 Ton Heavy Duty Dual Tandem Dovetail Trailer *AIR BRAKES* (48,000# GVWR) Technical Specifications

there 20 ton 25' version is ~8000 lbs.

New 2013 25

that version is listed at 6200+

Id say your north of 6K before i said your under 6K

It very well could be north of 6k. Again, it was just some rough numbers and I came up with 3500 + whatever the axles and tires weigh. And judging by the size of them, I'd guess close to 1000lbs for each axle w/4 tires. That puts me in the 5500 ballpark. Either way, it didnt tow bad at all. I personally didnt notice much difference towing it than when I tow our 2700# car hauler with the same tractor.

I don't know about where you're at LD, but here you can register a trailer for less than the sticker GVW. In Texas, its not a big dollar difference for farm tags, but my 14K trailer is registered commercial and they actually asked me if I wanted to downgrade the registered GVW to save some dough. I didn't, but could have.

That's a heck of a deal you got on that trailer. I'm a little jealous.

Same here i think. Thats what I mentioned earlier about registering it with a lower GVW. Dont make any sense to me at all. Its all a money thing. If it is registered as 12t, and I haul 10k on it, I need a CDL, if I register it as 10k and haul 10k on it, it is now legal without CDL????? All about the $$$$. Certainly not about safety, cause safety dont care what a peice of paper says.

As to weighing it, I am sure I will soon enough. Theres a local gravel pit about 6 miles away, and they only charge me $1 anytime I want to weigh something.:thumbsup:

 

[LD1]

Nice deal on a nice trailer!
Agree with flusher, get it weighed to know exactly.
I have a 30' (25+5) tandem dually, and it's #7500.

Whats the rating on that trailer??

I would have liked a 30' better, cause old BH's are long, but I couldn't pass on this deal.

 

[bcp]

As to the CDL think, yea, I am sure this combo requires one in Ohio. Cause it is over 26,000 GCWR. I cannot get a farm exemption as I do not farm. Just cut fire wood and do some tile jobs for the farmers in the area.

Lease 10 acres from one of your farmer friends for $1, then let him have 100% use of it. Would you then legally be a farmer?

 

[scoutcub]

Whats the rating on that trailer??

I would have liked a 30' better, cause old BH's are long, but I couldn't pass on this deal.

Rated @ 25K. I've hauled a dozer on it from MI to Ohio and it towed perfect. Don't think I would do that again tho....

 

[dodge man]

Yeah that was a but, it's worth double what yup paid. I'd blast it and paint it.

 

[kenmac]

From the pics. it doesn't look like the wood is rotted. You could treat the wood with used motor oil. I know some that do it to their wood floor trailers. Sounds like a good buy to me. In my area,Trailers aren't cheap

 

[Diamondpilot]

I had a 25+5 GN that was rated at 25,000#. It was 6,800# with chains and straps and 2 spares.

$2500 is a good price.

Use red or white oak rough sawn.

Chris

 

[Rmart30]

Good price and overkill is better than overloaded anyday. I wouldnt use poplar. White oak is best but sweet gum also makes for a good trailer board and is usually much easier to find at a local sawmill and cheaper. White oak rough cut is well over double of what they get for gum around here.

 

[LD1]

Yea, boards aren't rotted. Just loose and no longer attached in some places.

Thanks for all the feedback. Keep it a coming

 

[RDrancher]

We just painted my 20+5 work trailer and two others with Sherwin Williams Sher-Kem. Nice shootin' paint, good price and it hardens pretty quick. Way faster than the paint from TSC...even with the added hardener. I also picked up a roll of DOT tape from O'reilly's. It ended up working out better for me than buying the packs of short pieces.

There's a couple photos of the trailer on my thread.

 

[LD1]

Well, after all of this, I am starting to think that the trailer IS closer to 6200lbs.

I was (barley) able to make out a MFG and VIN on the trailer. It says WTM for the manufacture. So I googled them, and low and behold it looks JUST like the one they show pictured here as a 10 ton gooseneck. Pro Series Dual Tandems

Scroll down to the specs and they list a 12t 18+5 trailer as 6200lbs., Having two 12k axles. So yea, it is a tad heavier than I was guessing, but they also said oak lumber. Which is about twice as heavy as I was guessing. So that would make my initial guess for trailer at about 4000 or a tad more not counting the axles. And the I took a closer look at the axles again...man they are beefy. Figuring if the tires/rims are 100# each, I would say the axles are 1k each. So yea, I can see the 6k now.

Ironic though that they list the GVWR at over 30k with two 12k axles??? And the loaded capacity as 24t. How do they manage that unless they expect to put 6k on the pin and only leave 24k supported by the axles??

Also, another quick question. The GAWR of this trailer is also listed and barley ledgible. But it is 11,2xx. Yet still listed as a 12t. Are newer trailers like this, or do they actually show 12,000?? And does it make a difference in specs of trailer weight??

 

[LD1]

Well, hopefully those of you knowledgable trailer folks are still following this thread.

I called around today to get some lumber prices and wanted to see how they stack up.

White Oak, rough sawn 1.5" x 8" x 20' long......$30 each ($1.50/bf) and I would need 11.

"............"..........."............"...... x 10' long....~$10 each ($1/bf) and I would need 6.

Just wondering how that sounds??

I know I am paying a premium on the 20' boards, but the way the cross members are, if I used standard 8,10,12, and 16 foot lengths, I would have alot of waste. Currently, the boards on the 20' deck are 14.5' and 5.5' to make the 20' run, and staggering the short board from the front to back. But the problem now is, trying to hit a 1.5" wide cross member puts screws right in the end of the board. They split out, and cause the whole board to come loose over time.

Total with the 20' boards (an 10'ers cut in half for the 5' dove) would be ~$400 to deck it all.

Going with 16's and cutting to 14.5 and 12's and cutting two 5.5's out of it, would save me $90.

Personally I think the full length boards, and not having seams is worth it. Am I crazy in my thinking? Do these prices sound about right??

 

[Diamondpilot]

Well, hopefully those of you knowledgable trailer folks are still following this thread.

I called around today to get some lumber prices and wanted to see how they stack up.

White Oak, rough sawn 1.5" x 8" x 20' long......$30 each ($1.50/bf) and I would need 11.

"............"..........."............"...... x 10' long....~$10 each ($1/bf) and I would need 6.

Just wondering how that sounds??

I know I am paying a premium on the 20' boards, but the way the cross members are, if I used standard 8,10,12, and 16 foot lengths, I would have alot of waste. Currently, the boards on the 20' deck are 14.5' and 5.5' to make the 20' run, and staggering the short board from the front to back. But the problem now is, trying to hit a 1.5" wide cross member puts screws right in the end of the board. They split out, and cause the whole board to come loose over time.

Total with the 20' boards (an 10'ers cut in half for the 5' dove) would be ~$400 to deck it all.

Going with 16's and cutting to 14.5 and 12's and cutting two 5.5's out of it, would save me $90.

Personally I think the full length boards, and not having seams is worth it. Am I crazy in my thinking? Do these prices sound about right??

Go with the 20' boards. Time is money and you will spend two or three times the time making cuts and staggering. Plus it makes for a sronger floor.

Chris

 

[LD1]

Thanks. Thats what I was thinking I would do anyway, but just though I would hear somesuggestions.

 

[wmonroe]

Can't say if the prices are competitive or not but I would also go with the 20'ers to get a more sturdy deck.

 

[LD1]

I did get the 20's. Ordered anyway.

11 20's an 6 10's for $315 cash