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   / Good morning!!!! #27,501  
Good morning all. Just cold and windy here 35 deg but with the wind feels more like 25. Good day for coffee and time spent with my wife and kids. Just a winter reminder to all of my TBN friends about snow shoveling. The cold temperatures and heavy work load increase the risk of heart attack. If you are over 40, or have history of heart disease, high blood pressure or are slightly overweight talk to your physician and please use care. I don't know WayneB's circumstance leading to his heart attach, but it prompted me to post this reminder. David


Great advice David

As Wayne and I were only months apart in age, I am doubly grateful I did the cardiac workup earlier this year.

David Sent from my iPad Air using TractorByNet
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,502  
I had the privilege and honor to look down in the water in Pearl Harbor.
Never will forget that. But will the young remember? Will they remember the Holocaust and the lessons we learned from it?
Will they remember 9-11 or will it just be a history question answer?

Ron, she's a beauty.

No, the "young" won't remember even 9-11-01 because it isn't within their age of awareness. Consider that a child would be at least ten years old before events like that are meaningful and interpreted in a personal way unless it hit very close to home. To be ten years-old in 2001 means being born in 1991, making that person 23 years-old now. That's about as young as one could be now to personally remember 9-11 as a self-evaluated event with knowledgeable context.

To anyone younger than 23, and likely more than just a few that are older than 23, it's history; which illustrates the importance of teaching our children well.

CROSBY, STILLS, NASH & YOUNG, lyrics by Graham Nash, first released in 1970.

"Teach Your Children"

You, who are on the road must have a code that you can live by.
And so become yourself because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well, their father's he** did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they fix, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

And you, of the tender years can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth, they seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well, their children's he** will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they fix,the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,503  
Afternoon, 30F here. Having family over for my SNL birthday, pizza and wings with a Black Forest cake, just what my SNL asked for.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,504  
Afternoon, 30F here. Having family over for my SNL birthday, pizza and wings with a Black Forest cake, just what my SNL asked for.

Sounds tasty, hope you have a fun party.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,505  
Dave1949

You make a good point, but I have to hope you are wrong. I wasn't born until after Pearl Harbor, yet I have a strong emotional reaction to it. First time I visited it was with my Dad (Army Air Corps). Living here in Hawaii, not only is it visible anytime day you fly into Honolulu, but it also makes the local news several times a year. I sincerely doubt our son feels the same. One of these days, I plan to take our granddaughter to visit and hope it makes a lasting impression, but I'll likely never know.

P0-2031540118-1339060311947
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,506  
2014-12-07, 0736

73 years ago, the Japanese bombed Pearl Harbor...a Sunday morning, by the way...

17 degrees right now, high today will be about 24 dropping to a very cold 1 degree tonight. Looks like a rough week ahead of us. Tuesday through Saturday will be snow events of varying severity...Tuesday and Wednesday being the worst.

Today's chore will be clearing the snow from yesterday...

I went out and played 'taps'. The neighbors out here at the lake [many are vets] like the way it sounds drifting across the water.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,507  
I was born a few decades after Pearl Harbor, but as soon as I saw today's date, it struck a nerve, as it does every year. September 11, does the same. Busy day today with the kiddos, soggy outside from yesterday's rain.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,508  
Just a winter reminder to all of my TBN friends about snow shoveling.

The cold temperatures and heavy work load increase the risk of heart attack.
If you are over 40, or have history of heart disease, high blood pressure or are slightly overweight talk to your physician and please use care.

David

Good points!
Since I've had a heart attack and I am on BP meds, I'm quite aware of those risks and I do not ever overdo any snow shoveling....frequent breaks are essential and don't try to lift too much in a shovel.
And it isn't just we older guys that are susceptible...if you're in the 30's or 40's...especially if your job is mostly sedentary, you're actually at a greater risk of a massive heart attack.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,509  
Just a winter reminder to all of my TBN friends about snow shoveling.

The cold temperatures and heavy work load increase the risk of heart attack.
If you are over 40, or have history of heart disease, high blood pressure or are slightly overweight talk to your physician and please use care.

David

Good points!
Since I've had a heart attack and I am on BP meds, I'm quite aware of those risks and I do not ever overdo any snow shoveling....frequent breaks are essential and don't try to lift too much in a shovel.
And it isn't just we older guys that are susceptible...if you're in the 30's or 40's...especially if your job is mostly sedentary, you're actually at a greater risk of a massive heart attack.
 
   / Good morning!!!! #27,510  
Dave1949

You make a good point, but I have to hope you are wrong. I wasn't born until after Pearl Harbor, yet I have a strong emotional reaction to it. First time I visited it was with my Dad (Army Air Corps). Living here in Hawaii, not only is it visible anytime day you fly into Honolulu, but it also makes the local news several times a year. I sincerely doubt our son feels the same. One of these days, I plan to take our granddaughter to visit and hope it makes a lasting impression, but I'll likely never know.

P0-2031540118-1339060311947

Your father taught you well, imbued you with those emotions and revealed those facts. It means something to you because it meant something to a person you respect, your father, and he thought to take you there to show you something important. Had your father not taught you well, you would feel differently perhaps. History isn't learned only from books and classrooms.

However clumsily I expressed it, you "remember" Pearl Harbor through the eyes and actions of others: your father's, the Monuments, the displays, the solemn atmosphere of the site; not from personal experience of the event or its time in history.

My comment was not to discount your feelings and emotions, but about the importance of creating those remembrances--teaching our children well--because the events themselves, and the context within which they occurred, are not part of their life experiences.
 

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