FEL Build for my Kubota B6200

[sandman2234]

First off, I don't own a FEL, have never built one, but do have a burnt one out back off a JD 4300 destined to be mounted on a B6000.
With the added stresses of a FEL and what it does to the bell housing area of a tractor, is there any reason not to add a subframe such as a lot of backhoes use? Seems extending a tube from the rear of the mount that typically comes out of the side of the tractor in the area of the bell housing to the rear axle and maybe even mounting the counterweight on that, just behind the rear axle. I can understand the problems with a subframe going to the rear with a tractor that is used with a midmount mower, but it seems that with a little bit of thought, even that can be worked around. Making the subframe bow around the pullies and such and then tucking back in just ahead of the rear wheels isn't that much of a challenge, just 3 extra cuts and welds on each side. Just adding a rear subframe and ONLY attaching it to the rear axle should counter a lot of the twisting load that the uprights from the loader arms are subjected to. Adding another point on the subframe to the tractor and you can start absorbing weight that is pushing downward on the mounts at the center mounts. Just seems like a good idea to me, as removing these types of stress will greatly reduce the chances of the loader doing damage to the tractor, such as breaking it in half.
David from jax

 

[GPintheMitten]

Hi Sandman,

If the clearances for the MMM could be worked out, I think you are right that it would be better.

 

[KubotainNH]

I agree with sandman, without a subframe there will be allot of stress on the bell housing. I have a B6100 with factory FEL, it has a subframe that goes the length of the tractor frame. My version will not allow for a MMM but the C version is supposed to. If you want me to post some pics of how Kubota sets it up just PM me.

 

[KubotainNH]

GPintheMitten, here's the pictures I promised. If you want a shot in a specific area not shown please ask.

 

[GPintheMitten]

Thanks for the subframe pictures, KubotainNH.

 

[onowino]

Hi KubotainNH. I see you have a B6100 with fel. Did you build that particular attachment? I have a B6100D and want to build a fel for it. I was wondering if you have any pictures, you could post, showing the subframe and fel mount. Thanks in advance.
Fred

 

[KubotainNH]

That's a Kubota made loader. It came with the tractor. GPintheMitten is looking into making one for his b6200 which is why I posted it. i can post other pictures but not sure what else could be added to what I already posted.

 

[zman007007]

I put one on a B7100HST and you can find some pics on it under my screeen name. If you want to know anything else email me and I will post it. The bucket on mine is only about 30 inches wide and full of dirt or gravel, it is a load on the steering with no power steering. Just thought you might want to know this. zman

 

[KubotainNH]

Onowino asked me to post a couple more pics of the front attachment points. There's basically 6 points: the front frame, frame mid-section on each side and 2 on the axle housing. Hope this helps.

 

[onowino]

Yeah, thanks Mike. The second pic shows me what I was wondering. I didn't realise the cross-member was that far back under the tractor. Now, will the subframe have to be removed for such operations as a clutch change? Thanks for helping out a first timer and thanks for being so prompt.
Fred

 

[Capt Dan]

Hey Mike,

Got a couple questions. I see you have Ag's in front with turfs for rears. What size are each and how does that work. I have earlier and later models of the B7100. Old one has loader (with power steering) and has turf tires with front ones smooth. I have plenty of rear turf tires but am needing to get something for the front. I know were a set of Ag's (5 x 12) are mounted on the 4 hole rims. Didn't think I could mix up the Ag's and turf's. He also has the rear ag's but their 7.2 x 16. My tractor calls for 6 x12 front and 8 x 16 rear for the ag tires which is what I have on the newer one with 6 lug wheels for the fronts. Only difference I've found in the two tractors is the front hubs. I have the old set of the front 4 hole rims and see why they changed the design. Keep your wheels tight.

Does your loader have a joystick intead of standard 2 handle control's?

Thanks, Dan

 

[KubotainNH]

Fred, the frame separates in the middle so it does not need to be removed for the clutch. The flat steel overlaps and bolts together. If you search my name you can see this tractor broken in half for a clutch job. The frame was a great jacking point and aided in the lineup when putting the tractor back together.

Dan, I also have turfs on rims for the front. The rims need some work because of loose lugs making the holes bigger. 6 lugs would be good The reason for the ags is because they are better in the snow and came with the tractor. Seems to run fine with the different tires, I just stay off the tar in 4x4 mode. Yes my loader has the joy stick control, love it. I have closeup pics I posted for someone on this site, simple enough design. Again, search my name ;-)

 

[niemeyjt]

I have only just noticed this thread - but have a few thoughts.

I have a KBF200 on my B1750. This was originally built for the B6200 and B7200 so it is worth looking at it in this context.

Firstly, it attaches at multiple points - I attach a diagram from the operating manual and a few photos of the LHS mountings on the B1750 just to give you an idea. Only attaching to the bell housing may not be a good idea - this goes all the way back to the rear axle as you can see.

Secondly, it is demountable and I have had to turn exhaust pipe vertical - as horizontally mounted prevented detatching the loader - the opposite of what OP proposes.

HTH

J

 

[czechsonofagun]

I have only just noticed this thread - but have a few thoughts.

I have a KBF200 on my B1750. This was originally built for the B6200 and B7200 so it is worth looking at it in this context.

Firstly, it attaches at multiple points - I attach a diagram from the operating manual and a few photos of the LHS mountings on the B1750 just to give you an idea. Only attaching to the bell housing may not be a good idea - this goes all the way back to the rear axle as you can see.

Secondly, it is demountable and I have had to turn exhaust pipe vertical - as horizontally mounted prevented detatching the loader - the opposite of what OP proposes.

HTH

J

Interesting. It mounts forward of the MMM mounting bracket. Thanks for the pixs, something to think about.

 

[KubotainNH]

Dan, here are my tire sizes:
Front Ag- 6-12
Front turf- 20x8.00-10
Back turf- 29x12.00-15

Niemeyjt's frame underneath is very similar to mine. You can see in picture #6 of his on where to unbolt the 2 halves for splitting the tractor without removing the FEL frame. Can you post a picture showing the whole tractor? I'm curious what makes it "demountable". Except for the hydraulic lines, my loader arms & bucket come off by pulling 4 pins.

Czechsonofagun, I'm thinking his may be setup like that to allow MMM usage with the loader on. My manual says my version does not allow MMM but the C version does.

 

[niemeyjt]

Can you post a picture showing the whole tractor? I'm curious what makes it "demountable". Except for the hydraulic lines, my loader arms & bucket come off by pulling 4 pins.

To clarify, the loader is demountable - the frame remains on tractor.

It is off at the moment so I have taken a few pictures for you.

J

 

[KubotainNH]

Quite a bit more comes off on yours. Neat setup, thanks for the sharing.

 

[Blacknbluejeep]

I'm in the process of putting a FEL on my b6200 and everything in this thread has been very helpful in designing my loader. However I'm having trouble hooking up my hydraulics. I have the factory hydraulic block by the brake pedal which I know I get my pressure from and I need to run the power beyond to. The problem I am having is finding the port on the tank (transmission) where I put the return line to. I know on the HST models there is a port in front of the seat but my gear model doesn't have this port.
Can anyone with a factor FEL tell me where the return hose is attached on the 6200?

 

[zoubala]

Hi, I just finish building one for my B6200 and I copied someone online and sent the return line to a T fitting, I installed where the filler cap is right next to the stick shift. I unscrewed the oil cap filler putting a nipple screwed the T on it with one opening on the side and the other upward. This gives me the chance to still utilize the top opening to add oil then put the cap back on. I got the proper size reducer for the side opening where the 3/8 return hose line connect too. Sorry no pictures for now I screwed up my Galaxy 2 phone with a stupid OS update. One piece of advice make sure that oil cap is well screwed in place because when you try your FEL and drop it fast there will be some oil trying to gush out of there.