OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION

   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #21  
Darwin still exists and is happily working on taking another victim. You are stupid to "hang" over a ton from your rafters. It isn't a few pieces for wood, but a ton. Just don't
Ummm.You need to read the OP over again a little more carefully.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #22  
I have a question! Say you have all this equipment hanging
from the rafters and you get 3 foot of heavy wet snow on the roof do you think you will have to rebuild? I used to live in Wisconsin and know what that heavy wet snow can do without any equipment hanging from the rafters. Just a
though

willy
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #23  
hold my beer while I try this...

I've missed something I think? There's a 2nd floor above framed with 2x10's, and then trusses over the 2nd floor? And you're lifting from the trusses? To get it up high, tight under the 2nd floor for storage? I'm thinking I'm not seeing this right? Regardless, I'm pretty much with everyone else - I'm not sure there is any way to lift from pre-made roof trusses that isn't overly sketchy.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #24  
I've missed something I think?
You have indeed.;) He has what are known as "attic trusses". The bottom chords of the trusses are engineered to also be the floor joists for the second floor living area.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #25  
It sounds easier to build a 10x12 shed dedicated to the mower.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #26  
OP -
Have you looked into pallet racking?
It's basically "Tinker toys for big boys".
Good clean used pallet racking can often be found for a fraction of the cost of new. You can store HEAVY stuff easily.
You can build a frame for your 12' ceiling, put 4 beams at top, hoist your equipment to the desired level. Then put beams underneath.
And if you change your mind it's easily reconfigured.

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   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #27  
OP -
Have you looked into pallet racking?
It's basically "Tinker toys for big boys".
Good clean used pallet racking can often be found for a fraction of the cost of new. You can store HEAVY stuff easily.
You can build a frame for your 12' ceiling, put 4 beams at top, hoist your equipment to the desired level. Then put beams underneath.
And if you change your mind it's easily reconfigured.

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X2 on pallet racks. I recently put two 8' x 8' sections in my new barn with 2 shelves each, plus 2 extra shelves. They take 1600 lbs per shelf section, which is way more than I need.
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   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #28  
You have indeed.;) He has what are known as "attic trusses". The bottom chords of the trusses are engineered to also be the floor joists for the second floor living area.
I read back.
At this point I think op should clarify - he says that it's a 12' ceiling, and the trusses form the "attic floor".
What sort of attic?

I describe the space above the bottom of the trusses in my shop (which is a detached garage) as an "attic" but really it's a web of trusses which has just enough space that I can put empty boxes and a variety of other light things up there, but it's not really an attic, and like everyone says, those trusses aren't intended to do much other than keep the roof up and the walls in.

From what I can tell, there's not a proper attic; there are trusses the bottom of which form the ceiling and the top of which are the roof.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #29  
From what I can tell, there's not a proper attic; there are trusses the bottom of which form the ceiling and the top of which are the roof.
With an attic truss, the top chord is the "rafter" on which the purlins or roof sheeting are fastened and the bottom chord is the floor joist for the second floor. Do a search for "attic truss" and you'll see what I mean.
 
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   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #31  
Willy expressed my concerns. So - you get it all hanging from the truss. What about the winter snow load. My suggestion - do it some other way.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #32  
With an attic truss, the top chord is the "rafter" on which the purlins or roof sheeting are fastened and the bottom chord is the floor joist for the second floor. Do a search for "attic truss" and you'll see what I mean.
I'm aware that there are specific trusses for making attics where the floor is capable of a load, but we don't know that op has such attic trusses making a proper attic, or normal/non-attic trusses with an ersatz attic space above and no engineered floor load.

Without clarification from him, everything else is pure conjecture.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #33  
I'm aware that there are specific trusses for making attics where the floor is capable of a load, but we don't know that op has such attic trusses making a proper attic, or normal/non-attic trusses with an ersatz attic space above and no engineered floor load.

Without clarification from him, everything else is pure conjecture.

Even if they had a rated floor load which they probably do that load is evenly distributed not swinging from a cable. And maybe it would work but this whole project is sketch.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #34  
If you really want to do this reinforce with steel I beams
then you can just hook onto the I beams and no worry
By using 8 I beams you can cut holes in floor put in your
support beams then attach the frame beams above the floor this will enable you to hoist what ever to right under
the floor You will have 4 corner posts two beams connected
to hold them together then in the middle or there abouts
you will have two beams connected to the two beams that
hold the corners together. Hope this makes scents I can't
draw any pictures am using win 10 sorry

willy
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #35  
These ideas are ridiculous but im invested now 🍿
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #36  
X2 on pallet racks. I recently put two 8' x 8' sections in my new barn with 2 shelves each, plus 2 extra shelves. They take 1600 lbs per shelf section, which is way more than I need.
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To me one of the advantages of pallet racks is that with the basic setup of 2 uprights and 4 beams I can swap in thicker beams and hold up to 3 ton+ capacity per beam level, which is small car capacity.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #39  
Where did you see anything about hanging "over a ton"?

Well he says the mower is 1500 pounds and he wants to build a frame to hold it so a ton isn’t out of the question.
 
   / OVERHEAD LIFT QUESTION #40  
Well he says the mower is 1500 pounds and he wants to build a frame to hold it so a ton isn’t out of the question.
Not sure why. A frame from which to hang a 1500 lb. machine does not need to weigh even close to 500 lbs. I've rigged (to be picked by cranes, excavators, log loaders, etc.) plenty of heavy equipment, logs, building materials etc. that weigh many times that much and in none of those cases did the rigging weigh 33+% of the load. That'd be crazy. I'm not saying it's a good idea (I don't think that it is), I'm just trying to keep this intellectually honest.
 

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