do they make such a thing for tractors?

   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #21  
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   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #23  
Some of the usual tractor ag type connectors have two way sleeves- you can unlock them by pulling OR pushing the sleeve on the female side. I find those a lot easier to hook up than the one way kind especially on connectors that are not mounted to a bulkhead. There are also some that advertizse being able to connect under pressure. I just ordered some of those for my backhoe which seems to often build pressure on one side even though I keep the BH side connectors hooked together. (the poppet valve type connectors on it don't seem to help with that) Safeway S40 and Pioneer 4200 are two way types. Safeway S70 and Pioneer 8200 are two way connect under pressure. All are available in poppet and ball valve.

The two way female conectors can be mounted by the sleeve. If the body is free to move and the sleeve is held it becomes a breakaway connector- pull on the hose and it will detach. If the mount is firm you can also just push the male side in and it will connect. This would be the easiest way for someone with limited strength to make the conncection as it's not just arm strength, they can put body weight into it. This is what I would recommend.

It might be just the ones I have but connect under pressure flat face couplers require a lot more force to connect than ag types.
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors?
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Some of the usual tractor ag type connectors have two way sleeves- you can unlock them by pulling OR pushing the sleeve on the female side. I find those a lot easier to hook up than the one way kind especially on connectors that are not mounted to a bulkhead. There are also some that advertizse being able to connect under pressure. I just ordered some of those for my backhoe which seems to often build pressure on one side even though I keep the BH side connectors hooked together. (the poppet valve type connectors on it don't seem to help with that) Safeway S40 and Pioneer 4200 are two way types. Safeway S70 and Pioneer 8200 are two way connect under pressure. All are available in poppet and ball valve.

The two way female conectors can be mounted by the sleeve. If the body is free to move and the sleeve is held it becomes a breakaway connector- pull on the hose and it will detach. If the mount is firm you can also just push the male side in and it will connect. This would be the easiest way for someone with limited strength to make the conncection as it's not just arm strength, they can put body weight into it. This is what I would recommend.

It might be just the ones I have but connect under pressure flat face couplers require a lot more force to connect than ag types.

so how do they work? you have to move a lever or something?

The 8200 Series unique valve design allows connection while either or both the coupler and nipple are under pressure. Valves in both halves remain closed, opening only when system pressure has been relieved on the female body and then reapplied. This pressure sequence may be done with either an open center or a closed center hydraulic system that has a control valve.
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #27  
I think one would need to know EXACTLY that the degree and nature of infirmity that is to be overcome.

I like to think I have pretty strong hands and fingers and even after bleeding off pressure on FF connectors, sometimes it's all I can do to get them together.
 
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yea FF can be a challenge for me as well, seems like with the newer higher pressures no matter tractor or ss etc.... its just harder and more common
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #29  
Commonality issue plus cost prevent easy to use multiple couplers. My CUT loader couples 4 under pressure. My larger tractor couples 6 hydraulic and 2 electrical. However loaders are tractor specific.

My nephew’s old Internationals have a lever on the couplers. Push male end into place in the female end, pull the lever and it completes pulling the male end into full connection. Not sure all don’t have that type.
 
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yea our neighbors 1066 and 1086 have those type but our 5088 does not i wish it did
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #32  
Have you tried them? I have some, they don't always work as advertised!!

SR

They are rated at 3000psi, if your system has built up pressure higher than that due to heat etc, then I can see where they might not work as advertised. I have sold several sets, never had any complaints though.

And no, I have not used them. Over all the years that I've been doing this, I've only needed to relieve pressure with wrenches 2-3 times. It just has not been an issue of concern for me. ;)
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #33  
Like I said, I own some and have used them and although I didn't "run to a dealer to complain" about them, they do not always work as advertised.

A hydraulic shut off is the only thing I've found to work every time (other than pushing on the ball/poppet to relieve the pressure)

SR
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #34  
Like I said, I own some and have used them and although I didn't "run to a dealer to complain" about them, they do not always work as advertised.

A hydraulic shut off is the only thing I've found to work every time (other than pushing on the ball/poppet to relieve the pressure)

SR

At the 3000psi rated working pressure, it takes less than 30lb of pressure to connect. Other than the connect under pressure couplers, I have no easy inexpensive ways to help the OP and his father. ;)
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #35  
I have two tools in my onboard tractor tool box. A piece of flexible rubber that I use to protect the ball when using a hammer to relieve pressure and an old screw driver handle that fits inside the female connectors to relieve pressure (it has a bump on the end that works perfectly. You can also keep spare fittings with nothing attached to them to do the same thing, but a little tougher to handle. On the tractor I operate the hydraulic levers with power off and for my 3 function have power on (not started) to operate the solenoid to relieve pressure.

My biggest issue was hoking up to a piece or equipment that has sat outdoors in the sun. After fighting it I figured out how to release the line pressure as mentioned above. Be careful though as hydraulic fluid under pressure can cause you damage. Drape a shop cloth over the fitting (hand outside the cloth), when you relieve the pressure.

Hope this helps
 
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yea i am thinking this is probably going to be a crap shoot with the relieving the pressure, thinking a ball valve with hose or T with pipe fitting adapted will work best because you dontjust let the pressure off you have to let oil go somewhere as well and its usually a considerable amount in my experience if its from a large implement with long hoses.
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #37  
A trick I learned on Tractorbynet that works for me is to drain a bit of oil from the hoses when I disconnect them. It leaves room for expansion if the hoses are warmed by the sun.
 
   / do they make such a thing for tractors? #38  
A trick I learned on Tractorbynet that works for me is to drain a bit of oil from the hoses when I disconnect them. It leaves room for expansion if the hoses are warmed by the sun.
And a shutoff before the coupler, keeps you from having to do ANY of the "fixes" mentioned here...

After that, if the hoses build pressure, it will be before the shutoff, and the coupler will work pressure free...

SR
 

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