Container Weld Shop build -

[Oldpath05]

#1 grandson showed up right on time (10am), things looked like this by noon -
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FIREWOOD............whats the hurry, oh your grandson showed up, send him over my way next month I have to get in 8 cord by myself, my sons didn't help me with a grandson just a grand daughter, ok for KP but not firewood, doubt she'll be much help in my sons shingle mill either tho he's gonna try........

 

[Oldpath05]

After those containers containers are all set you should do a sound check, you should stand on the inside and have someone on the outside using a needle gun...........

 

[BukitCase]

Terry, maybe you'll get lucky and your girl (AKA "Little Barn" ) will bring a young guy home that knows SOME things can NOT be done on yer PHONE - if so, it's worth a bit of mentoring time :thumbsup:

OP, "stand on the inside and have someone on the outside using a needle gun" - Holy Crap, I get ENOUGH reverb just clapping my hands inside; using a needle gun inside I'd probly end up with ear plugs AND MUFFS

Grandson - if you survive long enough for your granddaughter to start bringin' BOYS home, just pay attention to any that ask you what loads you use in your shotgun (instead of runnin' away SCREAMING) - he just might be "apprentice material" for an "honorary grandson" :laughing:

Firewood - no trees I'm quite ready to drop just yet, too many OTHER projects + things that need attention BEFORE it rains fer the next 8 months (with the possible side benefit of a few inches of snow)


That was 2003; had about TWICE that in '79 right after we moved here, but normally if we get ANY snow it's a couple inches - usually just rain, followed by rain, followed by MORE rain, then rain, followed by rain, followed by MORE rain, ad liquidium...
- upside (I guess) is I'll only need to decide which INDOOR projects come next

Did I mention I'm usually GLAD our place is on a HILL??!?

Been kinda lazy today; guess I'm not quite in the shape I wuz 30 years ago - odd, just 'cause some of those "lego blocks" weigh over 100 lbs with no obvious way to get outa movin' 'em by hand (er, I mean BACK ) ...Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

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That was 2003; had about TWICE that in '79 right after we moved here, but normally if we get ANY snow it's a couple inches - usually just rain, followed by rain, followed by MORE rain, then rain, followed by rain, followed by MORE rain, ad liquidium...
- upside (I guess) is I'll only need to decide which INDOOR projects come next

Did I mention I'm usually GLAD our place is on a HILL??!?

Been kinda lazy today; guess I'm not quite in the shape I wuz 30 years ago - odd, just 'cause some of those "lego blocks" weigh over 100 lbs with no obvious way to get outa movin' 'em by hand (er, I mean BACK ) ...Steve

2003???????so that dump truck hasn't been moved in, wait let met do the math, 15 years.......... Guess you dont have much use for a snow plow, one good thing about rain you have no danger forest fires like California, plenty of water to drink, helps the garden grow, helps the Redwood trees grow, helps the grass grow, wow that's more then one thing, isn't you lucky..............If the Lego blocks are to heavy it's not to late to make new ones out of aluminum, just think how much fun that would be, cuts easy welds easy moves easy and the best part it'll gives you something more to do while your resting.............. Old or Old-ish? You know your getting old when you start thinking about the here after, you walk into a room and wonder what the heck your here after...............

 

[BukitCase]

"so that dump truck hasn't been moved in, wait let met do the math, 15 years" - nope, not true; that's just been its normal out-of-the-way parking spot since I got it - if you look at the container pics in post#519, you'll see the dump truck's to the LEFT of the two ADDED containers down on that flat area - that's about 40 feet further south than it is in my "collectors' item" SNOW pic :laughing:

And you're right, I DON'T need a snow plow - I mostly only use the dump if I'm tryin' to move several yards of material more than a few yards, then I'll load it with the 1 yard bucket on the 580 and dump it where the material goes - besides, that truck has the truck version of Chevy's big block, it's a tall deck 366 with 4 bolt mains, similar to the tall deck 427's only smaller... It runs really good, has a 5 speed and 2-speed axle, and the dump cylinder is DOUBLE acting - I've put heavy square tubes under the bed when it's up, and lowering the bed will jack the front wheels off the ground :laughing:

Probly not gonna be a lot of action here for a while, my insurance just told me I need to do some "MAJOR" repairs to the place by Dec 8, or they won't renew my policy in January - real nice of 'em to WASTE three MONTHS of nice weather before telling me

Oh well, guess it's true that "life is the crap that happens while you're busy makin' plans"... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

And you're right, that truck has the truck version of Chevy's big block, it's a tall deck 366 with 4 bolt mains, similar to the tall deck 427's only smaller... It runs really good, has a 5 speed and 2-speed axle, and the dump cylinder is DOUBLE acting - I've put heavy square tubes under the bed when it's up, and lowering the bed will jack the front wheels off the ground :laughing:

Probly not gonna be a lot of action here for a while, my insurance just told me I need to do some "MAJOR" repairs to the place by Dec 8, or they won't renew my policy in January - real nice of 'em to WASTE three MONTHS of nice weather before telling me

Oh well, guess it's true that "life is the crap that happens while you're busy makin' plans"... Steve

First three words might be an accident or an unplanned phenomena due to the coming of fall, yippee,,,,,,,,,Is that the norm for dump trucks? I thought dump beds came down by gravity.
Major house repairs aren't really major til you have to replace the roof shingles, more major if you have dormers, if I had to do it all over again I would never build a house with dormers, more angles, more shingle joints, more measuring, more cutting which all leads to more mistakes which is only important when it rains which is important if you live in a rainy climate, but if you need Maine cedar shingles my son can help you out with that............ Maine Made Cedar Shingles - CKShingle.com - YouTube

 

[BukitCase]

"Is that the norm for dump trucks? I thought dump beds came down by gravity."

Most of 'em do; but this is the SECOND one I've had that had power both ways, the first was an electric over hydraulic, a stakeside 1-1/2 ton Chevy, 350 small block - if I hadn't found out THAT one was both ways by ACCIDENT, I would never have checked the one I have now I know the FIRST dump I had was only power UP, it was a '65 Chev C60 chassis with a 292 six, 4 speed, single speed axle when I bought it and I put a 2 speed in it. The 2 speed came out of a junkyard donor that had been a delivery truck, so the low range was same as the ONLY range in the single speed - that gave me an overdrive which was what I wanted, cuz we were moving back to Oregon from Calif. at the time...

Shingles - don't need 'em, house and shop were re-roofed about 8 years ago, with 35 year rated comp shingles. I just gotta tear off ALL the siding on the two weather sides, and get it painted before the rains set in (I hope)

I just finished getting it all off the short end (26 feet + gable, 1 3x5 window) - 'sposed to rain some tonite then 8+ days dry. Then I got the South side to do (62 feet, one man door, one 6'- slider and 2 4'x4' windows.



Here's the East end partway done, notice the tinker toys AND the "super plank" in use here, plus a patio umbrella AND a fan (did I mention I likes me comforts??!?

The guy that built the place should never have had access to tools. Everything I've ever worked on left me asking WTF??? - in this case, I don't think he knew about Z strip for between rows of siding, so on the gables he put an EXTRA layer of siding on (grooves INWARD) then a layer the normal way, but lapped like shakes So I ripped all THAT off too, it'll get sided the regular way with Z strip between courses.

My trick for getting Z strip to work right; nail the strip down over lower course, then lay a yardstick on top of the Z strip for a spacer, upper course on THAT, then once a couple nails are in the upper course pull the yard stick. Otherwise water will bead up between bottom of the upper course and the metal, and ROT...

I KNOW the guy that built the house either didn't have, or at least know how to use, a tape measure (no two trusses the same spacing, same with a lot of the studs) a square (bathroom vanity built in place, no square corners) a level (some of the drain plumbing used to run UPHILL)

Just to make it MORE fun, I found out my airless sprayer had finally given up (Campbell-Hausfield, bought new in 1979, cheap crap just don't LAST anymore :laughing: sooo, since I have the house and shop and 4 containers to paint I bought THIS one

Amazon.com: Graco 17G177 Magnum ProX17 Stand Paint Sprayer: Home Improvement

I figger if the new one lasts HALF as long as the old one did, it'll outlive ME

My plan for the south side of the house - go til I get rained out, then I have some 12' 2x4's and some heavy tarps - clamp the 2x4's to every other rafter tail, hang tarps on the 2x4's, (makes a little lean-to with about 7 feet to house) then the rain'll run down the OUTSIDE of the tarps :thumbsup: instead of the INSIDE of my NECK :thumbdown: - that'll let me get the 62' side done 1/3 at a time, even if it rains the whole time (not a challenge, Ma Nature, if you're listening )

'Sposed to rain tonite, got the open end tarped just in case - then at least 8 days straight no rain (maybe) - I'll take all I can get... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

"The guy that built the place should never have had access to tools. Everything I've ever worked on left me asking WTF??? - in this case, I don't think he knew about Z strip for between rows of siding, so on the gables he put an EXTRA layer of siding on (grooves INWARD) then a layer the normal way, but lapped like shakes So I ripped all THAT off too, it'll get sided the regular way with Z strip between courses. "<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Fan, had to really look hard for that, you know it's bad when you have to use a fan outside, the umbrella must be for that sun that comes out one hour a day but mostly for rain protection since every whether report you give it's raining, to bad you have to work in the rain. I'll have look into that siding you plan on using, not familiar with it.

I re-sided the front side of my house with cedar shingles 7 years ago or should say my son did and I helped. Was going to do the north side to but when my son took those old white pine shingles off, the back side of them still looked new. So I sanded the old paint off the north side and re-painted, those white pine shingles was sawed on my fathers mill 35 years ago, the old stain was faded bad, so I used those thick sanding wheels, worked fast but used about dozen of those wheels. Then I started spray painting with my electric sprayer, went through a gallon so fast and got no ware I decided to brush the rest on, at $60.00/gal didn't want to paint the air.

Then Couple years ago wife wanted a pantry added on, 8'x16', I used hemlock shingles for siding on that and same on my garage, with paint they'l last til the next land owner takes over, they'l probably say WTF about that, sometimes I do about the stuff I did 30 years ago. Since I got so sick of hammering I put the shingles on with a Ryobi stapler, 1/4 narrow x1-1/2 SS.
It's a boring 2 min video but shows how fast it goes and no freeken air hose, a nailer would be better but couldn't find 1-1/2" nailer without an air hose, I've cut the cord ten years ago and not going back. Now I wait to see if the shingles blow off, shouldn't because the top layer is keeping the staples from backing out, the top last row is stapled hard.
Ryobi staple gun - YouTube

 

[BukitCase]

Shakes look good, I always liked that look - all my nailers are air, Senco framer and coil roofer, Hitachi stapler, and a Porter Cable brad nailer - one thing that makes the hose a LITTLE less irritating is to use a smaller (1/4" ID) hose - the nailers have enough of a built-in reservoir you don't need a lot of continuous flow, and the smaller hose is easier to drag around...

The siding I'll be using is called 5/8" T1-11, looks a little like "reverse board and batt" - I've had 2 full units of the stuff sitting in the shop (still banded) for about 15 years, guess I gotta quit plannin' so far ahead and actually DO stuff

If I was to buy siding NOW, 99% chance it'd be 4x8 Hardi-plank - doesn't matter now tho, I'm pretty sure the plywood stuff (and a good coat of paint) will outlast ME anyway...

Picked up a roll of house wrap and a case of paintable caulk at the blue bucket store today, 'sposed to be dry for about a week so should make some headway.

BTW, about HALF the reason for the fan was the dang yellowjackets, fan on high aimed at me kinda screws up their flight plan, plus whenever it isn't raining it's muggy and warmer than I like, so WIN-WIN...

When I'm NOT "goin' airborne", my super-plank makes a real solid 3'x10' work bench - gonna come in REAL handy when I get to cut all those siding pieces to fit the gable.

Bedtime, I always sleep better if I know what I'm gonna do the next day... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

("Picked up a roll of house wrap and a case of paintable caulk at the blue bucket store today, 'sposed to be dry for about a week so should make some headway.")

Lets hear it for the blue bucket store!!!!!!!! Whats the update is the house all rap up yet, any before and after pics? I want to make sure there aren't any runs or streaks on this professional paint job.

Just a reminder it's almost firewood season, dont know if your ready I know I'm not, gonna start slicing and dicing this weekend, 8 cord of tree length staring at me............

 

[BukitCase]

"Whats the update is the house all rap up yet, any before and after pics? I want to make sure there aren't any runs or streaks on this professional paint job."

Nope, guess it's true when they say "The older I get, the faster I USTA BE..." everything I open up looks worse than I hoped it would be, so I figured out a way to survive this job, which is DEFINITELY gonna take me well into the "horizontal rain" season - we typically get anywhere from 20 to 80 mph winds on this hill most of the winter months, and LOTS of rain - and I HATE seeing buildings worked on in the rain, it's just BEGGING for dry rot, etc... which is just what I've been finding; it's now lookin' like I will need to replace ALL 62 feet of the south side sheathing, at least up to 4' up from the foundation, BEFORE I can put the new siding on - so here's my survival plan


That's one 12'x16' Costco tarp, today I got a second one up (not shown in that pic) - each one's held out from the house by 5 12' 2x4's, clamped to every other rafter tail (up UNDER the roof) and to a second STAKE driven into the ground at the outer end. That gives me just over 9 feet from house to bottom of the tarps - I'll extend that "lean-to tent" clear to the other end of the house, so EVERYTHING I do will stay bone dry til the paint's dry. (Including ME...)

I also have enough of the led lights to run them full length, then they can get used elsewhere when it's done. Not clear in the pics, each pair of lights hangs on a 10' stick of 1" conduit, which is clamped to the 2x4 "tarp rafters" and angled out toward the house - Those give me enough light I can work til bedtime if I'm feelin' frisky (Ever seen a frisky 73 year old? Me neither

I'm gonna use one of the tall containers as a "paint booth", pre-prime EVERYTHING including the replacement sheathing (already in hand), then when it's ALL nailed up I'll spray the final color. This time it's gonna be a medium gray (few shades lighter than the mil-spec "lego blocks", with a slightly darker than sky blue trim.

By leaning 4x8 sheets up on both walls of a 40' container, I can spray up to 18 sheets at a time without worrying about rain before they dry... (as long as I remember the respirator, and my "tenny-runners"

BTW, this ain't gonna go FAST, but it's gonna be a dang sight closer to RIGHT than it useta wuz - so far I've found wrong nails, not ENOUGH nails, ZERO flashing around windows, big odd-shaped gaps in sheathing (mud daubers LOVE these, so does dry rot), some siding hung too low (about 8" of "bug tunnel" below the sill plates for 62 feet) and there's a fair possibility (haven't looked yet) of dry rot in some of the sill area framing...

Did I mention that the NEW title of this thread's gonna be "Steve's everything BUT a container weld shop build" ??!?

But hey, at least we got all the firewood we need for the next couple years, so yay :laughing: ... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

("Steve's everything BUT a container weld shop build")<<<<<<<<<<<<Sounds good to me but dont think it's possible although on the other hand I kinda got that idea after I been through the few pages, I never really cared for topic police anyways.

On that second picture what's wrong with that sheathing.........looks good to me, caulk and paint make it what it ain't. I see the best part about your extreme house makeover is it's a single story house.

I have a upstairs and makes exterior work a nightmare. I went through that 7 years ago on the front and north side, I got to repaint the south side sometime soon, might as well forget that for this year. On the back side wife wants a downstairs bedroom, that anit happening this year either, a 14x32' at my age is atleast a 2 year project then the worse part is if I add on the house taxes will go up, I'm already paying $1800.00/year on 25 acres and last month the town had property revaluation done for next years taxes now that's already scaring me.

 

[BukitCase]

"On that second picture what's wrong with that sheathing"

Nuthin' wrong on the gable end; it only gets maybe 20% of the "horizontal rain", had a few voids I patched and caulked and THAT part's ready to wrap and side.

It's the LONG side that gets most of the action - as I mentioned, NONE of the windows or sliding door were flashed AT ALL, the tar paper was done kind of a "lick and a promise" - as a result, EVERY opening has dry rot from near the bottoms of windows down to the foundation.

I'm hopin' to make it another decade or two, and this is NOT beer, *** or pizza so I NEVER wanna do it AGAIN

So it's gonna get done the best way I know how...

The GOOD news - it rained all day today (still is a little) and my "mil-spec lean-to tent" is completely dry and 99% breeze-less for the whole 30+ feet :thumbsup: so a few more 2x4's, couple more tarps, and I'll be able to get things closed up ENTIRELY before I prime and paint the entire (half) of the house. That'll mean that I'll need less than one 5 gallon bucket of primer to do the end and long side, same with final coat.

My airless can use up to 5 gallon bucket, and with one of the larger tips

Amazon.com: Graco 221617 Reversible Airless Spray Tip, RAC IV, 617: Home Improvement

it can spray up to a 14" fan, so once everything's masked each coat should take maybe a half hour for the actual spraying. With a 50' hose I'll need to move the bucket ONCE to do the back and one side (all I'm doing THIS year)

I don't envy you your 2-story, don't even like gables but with my 10' "super plank" on the loader (up to 11' off the ground) and a 36" gun extension on the airless, I can do the high part of the gable from the plank, and reach the rest from the ground, so it won't be too bad.

The long side can get done ENTIRELY from the ground with the extension. A wide roller on a 3' or 6' pole will let me smooth out the (expected) runs here and there; all in all, it shouldn't be too hard to finish well before the insurance co's Dec 8 deadline.

That's what I keep tellin' myself anyway, and so far I'm still gullible enough to BELIEVE it :laughing: ... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

What does that paint tip fit this>>>Graco Magnum 26285 X7 Cart Airless Paint Sprayer - Power Paint Sprayers - Amazon.com ,,,,,,,,,,thanks for the updates.

I bought one of these offshoot brand Krebs 35T 25 years ago, very heavy on the hand, fast but uses a lot of paint with very little coverage/gal, so 4 years ago when painting my garage I used a paint brush, very slow with lot of coverage/gal. Wouldn't it be nice if they made a paint sprayer that was light on the hand, fast with lots of coverage/gal, then wouldn't it be even nicer if they made a paint never fades and never comes off.

KREBS SPRAYKIT 36 35T Electric Airless Paint Sprayer "WITH BACKPACK TANK" - $175. | PicClick <<<Dont think there in business anymore.

 

[BukitCase]

Yeah, that tip fits the one in your link - but that's the CHEAPEST one of their line that will handle that particular tip size. If you scroll down that page you'll come to a chart - one of the lines is "Maximum Tip Size". As the sprayers go up in price, they get bigger pumps, so they can handle bigger tips.

The bigger the tip size (hole, NOT "pattern") the thicker liquids they can spray un-thinned.

Their tip numbers tell you two things - it's a 3 digit number, the first (3,4,5,6) tells you the PATTERN width, the OTHER 2 digits are the nozzle size (in thousandths of an inch) so a 517 tip sprays a pattern 5 (10-12 inch fan) and has a .017" hole. A 617 tip has same size hole (last 2 numbers) but the 6 pattern (first number) means it's a WIDER fan (12-14 inch fan)

If you go to this link
Amazon.com: Graco 221517 Reversible Airless Spray Tip, Rac IV, 517: Home Improvement
Then click on the little box with the 3 digit number and choose different ones, (wait til the description changes) you can see how this works.

If all that's not confusing ENOUGH, not ALL their tips fit the SAME tip guards - that "RAC" in tip descriptions stands for Reverse-A-Clean, if it clogs you just twist that little T handle a half turn and hit the trigger - and (even more confusing) the IV is Roman Numerals, and so far all I know is that a tip guard that's "RAC IV" will (supposedly) also fit tips that are either size IV, or size V

I finally got it figured out enough to know what tips I wanted available, but if you think that makes me an "expert", then you probably ALSO believe Al Gore really invented the internet

The main reason I picked the sprayer I did (the X-17) is the "easily replaceable pump" (that's what died on my old one, only 38 years old and no parts available; dang) And it handles a big enough tip to do heavier exterior latex paint -

BTW, now YOU know why my friends NEVER ask me a question unless they REALLY wanna know - the above was the SHORT version :laughing: ... Steve

 

[BukitCase]

Made a little progress today, got all the old siding off that's under my "long skinny teepee" ; 1 sheet less than HALF of the south side -


There's enough punky stuff that my plan to replace the lower 48" of sheathing still looks necessary. The GOOD news; looks like no actual FRAMING damage :drink:

Guess it's time to start pre-priming CDX... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

What's the update on this old house repair, need Norm Abram yet? Just a reminder winters coming and you might have to trade the fans in for heaters and snow shovels if this keeps going.

Right now I'm trying to get my firewood in before it snows, already a week behind schedule, forgot about all the pre-work that has to happen first, luckily my wood spliter started with just 6 pulls, so far I only got 4 loads in with 11 more to go then I'll be all set, nothing more satisfying in life then that all set feeling. I better take Friday off so I can get caught up and get that all set feeling.



What your thoughts on this air hose set up? RapidAir 1/2in. Master Kit, Model# 9 | Northern Tool + Equipment

 

[BukitCase]

Rapid air kit looks OK if you don't wanna go with hard lines, but I'd keep in mind it's only rated for 150 psi - if you ever decide to get a bigger compressor (like a REALLY good deal on an industrial version) a lot of 'em (specially 2-stage) shut off at around 175 psi. Mine does, and I don't use ANYTHING less than 300 psi rated without a regulator in the line - for example, most HF air tools will crap their pants if you go much above 100 PSI (DAMHIKT :ashamed

Did make a little progress in "getting ready to do stuff" Rest of the tenting is almost done as of a couple days ago



The gap in the middle is where the sliding glass door is, that'll get its tarp ONLY when the weather actually makes it necessary. (And I have no doubt it WILL before I'm done)

Yesterday I got one of the hi-cube containers set up with lights/masking, and got 8 sheets of 1/2" CDX ply leaned up vertical (spaced down one side) - new airless sprayer will go in the container NEXT to it - then prime one side, let dry, flip, do other side. In between coats I'll finish stripping the rest of the old siding (36 feet left to do) then cut the sheathing 48" above where the sheathing SHOULD have stopped - then the pre-primed CDX will replace the bottom 4 feet of sheathing. (Can't WAIT to see what's under THAT )

I'm using Kilz2 (un-thinned) for primer, I figure the anti-mildew can't hurt.

Then comes CORRECT flashing (as opposed to "NONE"/house wrap, pre-priming new siding (using same container "paint shop"), siding goes up (WITHOUT creating another "row housing for bugs" gap) and spray final color. Then new (pre-primed by me) trim, paint that, final caulk around windows...

Dang, I'm tired just TALKIN' about it ...Steve

 

[BukitCase]

The "browner" areas in front of the 2 containers are where I scraped some humps off with the Gannon box; third pic is after the 1-1/2" minus rock.



It's 'sposed to rain about an inch starting Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday, so about Saturday I'll "drive it in" a bit more with the 580B and smooth it a little more. Then it'll get a couple inches of 3/4"minus (the OTHER pile), so I can get around the containers WITHOUT pontoons ... Steve

 

[Oldpath05]

Your suppose to be working on the house now your back on the container shop, did your wife give you permission to wander off to the tin can garage? and whats those black piles of stuff? from where I sitting it looks like reclaimed hot top.