child add on seat

/ child add on seat #21  
<font color="blue"> I don't think Deere would be too happy about it. </font>

I was just doing some quick math in my head. This guy has potentially cost Deere some big bucks. Legal fees for the "cease and desist" + revisions to all their owner's manuals... /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif

Deere might miss their expected earnings by $.01, the stock will tank, triggering the next recession. Next thing you know, Greenspan will be blaming "That guy who sold the tractor seat on Ebay" /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
 
/ child add on seat #22  
<font color="blue"> Yes, its hard for a design to be mush-for-brains and lawyer proof </font>

Lawyer proof - about impossible

mush-for-brains proof - responsibility of a good designer (within reason).

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/ child add on seat #23  
The EBay seller uses some grrrreat copywriting:

"A patiented designed passenger seat for all garden tractors."

As in -=- anyone who uses it is guaranteed to wind up as a PATIENT"?? /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

I vote AGAINST this device. Kids on the back end of moving device outfitted with a blade that can slice a leg off? Kids joy riding should NOT be combined with lawn mowing.

Get real ... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

The item was listed for 10 days, and didn't sell a single one. Maybe that shows buyers have some sense left.
 
/ child add on seat #24  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( Maybe that shows buyers have some sense left )</font>

Kinda restores some of your faith in human nature, huh? /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
/ child add on seat #25  
Maybe we should talk about HEARING damage, too... None of the kids in the pics were wearing headphone or plugs... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

Mark
 
/ child add on seat #26  
<font color="blue"> None of the kids in the pics were wearing headphone or plugs </font>

I don't think that little JD makes much noise.

I came across this Safety News article from Prince Edward Island (PEI) Federation of Agriculture: Providing A Safe Ride for Your Child

Here is a line from the article:
What's needed is a tractor with a proper passenger seat and a seat belt. Manufacturer's are providing passenger seats in their new tractors.
 
/ child add on seat #27  
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( Maybe that shows buyers have some sense left )

Kinda restores some of your faith in human nature, huh?
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Hakim & Bird, if you want to sell a convertible car, do it in the early summer when people are thinking about getting outdoors in good weather. If you want to sell snowblowers, put them on display when the leaves start to turn colors and fall off the trees. I suspect that the mouth breathing droolers who would buy one of these seats to mame their young innocents simply are not shopping for summer fun items right now.
 
/ child add on seat #28  
well , in my estimation, actually cutting grass with kids anywhere around is not a good idea. I will at times , take my grandson for a ride on the GT or even the B2400 but i will not be doing any work. just a slow leisurely ride. Agree or disagree, that is how i personally feel.
 
/ child add on seat #29  
Bob, that's certainly a logical thought and a possibility, but we're just hoping that isn't the only reason they didn't sell. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
/ child add on seat #30  
<font color="blue"> when I was a kid I never knew anyone who injured his head riding a bike but now everyone (except me) seems to wear those silly bike helmets . . .
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Bob, I'm going to jump on this comment because I don't want it to influance ANYBODY not to use safety equipment of any type, becaue they perceive it as looking silly, simply because you never know when it might help you.

Now let me share a little personal experience with one of those "silly bike helmets."

I started bicycle commuting to work when I was 47. The round trip was 32 miles over western PA hills. It was a good workout and I enjoyed it year round. I don't think I rode in any sub zero temps, but I did ride a lot in below 32F temps. The first hill I went down was a 42 MPH hill in winter (with a windshield on the handlebars) and 47 MPH in summer. Most of the time on the slight down grades the speeds were between 15 and 25 mph. Up hills I might only do 3 or 4 MPH, so don't get the impression I was a Charles Atlas or anything like that.

Anyway, about 6 years later, just before I turned 53, I met Ralph. Ralph was not a mean dog. He just like to chase cars and my bicycle. He lived at a small barge landing about a mile from the plant where I worked, and was never tied. I used to laugh as he ran behind me, never really seeming like he was a mean dog. He was just a BIG brown dog...young enough to want exercise.

One morning I was coming down a grade and going to pass Ralph's place. I could do about 25 mph easy at that point. It was the slope, not the physical ability. So Ralph for whatever reason greets me early. I'm sure he did not mean to do it...but he ran smack into my front wheel, and I think his legs actually may have got tangled up in the spokes...

As I struggled to get up off the ground and see through the gray/black that was in front of my eyes, a coworker came along and saw me walking in circles and stopped. Ralph's owners came out as well. I went tot he hospital in an ambulance. I missed a month of work. I hurt real bad for two weeks. Real bad. 3 broken ribs do that I guess...You would have called me MR. purple if you saw me then...

The most intersting thing was that my "silly helmet" fell off my head in two pieces. I have pictures...

Somehow I flew through the air and impacted on the back of my head, crushing the helmet on the back and breaking it in half.

I am confident that without the helmet Henro would never have become a henro, but would have been planted about four years ago, dust in the wind, or whatever.

The point is, and I really know you agree with the importance of safety items and have to agree with you as well, those helmets look silly, but they are not silly when called upon to save one's head...just like a ROPS may look silly, but silly is what we want if we are on the tractor when it rolls over or flips.

I can't help but want to agree with Dave...reading between the lines I hear him saying "common sense makes sense most of the time..." /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif
 
/ child add on seat #31  
Henro you will get no arguement from me. I use reasonable precaution most of the time. Some might say I am too cautious. Perhaps it is my frame of view, but I ride a bike for fun, and I don't ride far, and I've not been chased by a dog. So while my daughter does wear a helmet, I do not. Now if I was communting to work, or taking a bike vacation across state, then I would probably wear a helmet. And I would probably wear those silly little mirrors on my glasses so I could see behind me without turning my head. And there are probably other things that I might do that I currently consider to be silly looking . . . but again, it is my frame of reference that is the liesurely ride on a private dead end country lane that I am coming from.

I grew up in the world before mandatory seatbelts . . . and I survived. And while I would have ridden in the back of a pick up truck when I was young, I would not let my daughter do it today. I guess I am a hypocrite in that I look out for my kid more than I look out for me. I would not put a kid on that John Deere Child Add On Seat and mow my lawn either. . . and I think that is something most of us on TBN agree on.
 
/ child add on seat #32  
Henro......... we need the rest of the story..... what happened to Ralph???? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
/ child add on seat #33  
Ralph continued to run free and chase cars.

I think he may have got his legs in the spokes because the owner told me the fur was skinned off both of his legs in the front a bit...

I don't think I got back to commuting to work by bicycle after that, because my plant was shutdown about a month of so after I got back to work. Funny thing was during that month I was recovering, Ralph enhanced his chasing skills.

I had a little Suzuki that I used to drive around, one of those real small ones. Ralph used to chase it too, but he began running down the road in front of it, rather than behind. Or beside me. He was running one day (I could have hit him anytime I wanted if I were the kind to hold a grudge) he drifted over to the left and I pulled up beside him. I started to wind down the window to say something, as his head was at about my face level...Then decided that was a dumb thing to do...and just waved goodbye as I sped up... /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif Didn't need him grabbing on my ear or something like that!

By the way this was a road that followed along the river and lead into the old grounds of a large steel plant. It was travelled mostly by employees and not a highway or anything, so chasing cars was safer there than it might have been elsewhere.

I don't get down that way much anymore. Almost 4 years has passed. My guess is that Ralph has probably slowed down a little by now...if he is still around. Some large trucks also travelled that road, slowly, but those wheels are dangerous...
 
/ child add on seat #34  
<font color="blue"> Ralph continued to run free and chase cars...
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And that, my friends, is the rest of the story.
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( <font color="blue"> Ralph continued to run free and chase cars...
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And that, my friends, is the rest of the story.
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But is it.... as we all now know...... sometimes Paul Harvey made up some of the stories that he told..... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif
 
/ child add on seat #36  
Hmmm? What does this have to do with Deere?

Looks home-made, and put together for sale on e-Bay (and didn't sell). Or does someone think Deere is making and selling these? I doubt that. /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif

The 'comments' on this thread were really interesting to read.
 
/ child add on seat #37  
</font><font color="blue" class="small">( The 'comments' on this thread were really interesting to read. )</font>

Yep, Paul Harvey News and Comment, at your service.
Good day! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
/ child add on seat #38  
I showed the photo to my wife (daughter's mother).

"Guys are crazy. They think they are watching a kid when they have their back turned!"

- Rick
 
/ child add on seat #39  
<font color="blue"> </font> I wonder if there is nothing in the Deere manual about this "Add on".

I see tools and equipment used in some of the strangest ways in my job and my response to anyone who says "we do this all the time" is show it to me in the owners manual. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
/ child add on seat #40  
I don't know but when I buckle my grandkids in thier "crash" seats located in the back seat they can be unbuckled and playing a game before I can get into the front, so just imagine if they unbuckled and the operator hit reverse really quick, sitting on those slick plastic seats they wouldn"t have a chance /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
 

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