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I recently purchased a FIMCO 40 gallon trailer sprayer to pull behind my garden tractor. I have 5 acres of pasture, and I've decided to start doing my own applications of liquid lime, fertilizer, and 2-4-d.

The sprayer had a 12v electric pump that produced 2.1 gallons per minute outflow at 60 psi. What I determined after a couple of uses, was that it was underpowered for what I was asking it to do. It would clog with only a little sediment and lose all pressure. An hour spent taking apart the pump and cleaning it, and I'd get another 30 minutes of spray time before pressure was lost again.

I returned it today, and talked to the salesman about ordering the gas powered pump version of this sprayer. It's a 2.5 hp, 6 gallon per minute pump adjustable to 160 psi. He's going to check the prices for me tomorrow since it's a special order.

Does anyone have any experience with the FIMCO 40 gallon TR-40-GAS?

Or does anyone have recommendations on another model that can handle the job

Thanks,
VA
 
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I recently purchased a FIMCO 40 gallon trailer sprayer to pull behind my garden tractor. I have 5 acres of pasture, and I've decided to start doing my own applications of liquid lime, fertilizer, and 2-4-d.

The sprayer had a 12v electric pump that produced 2.1 gallons per minute outflow at 60 psi. What I determined after a couple of uses, was that it was underpowered for what I was asking it to do. It would clog with only a little sediment and lose all pressure. An hour spent taking apart the pump and cleaning it, and I'd get another 30 minutes of spray time before pressure was lost again.

I returned it today, and talked to the salesman about ordering the gas powered pump version of this sprayer. It's a 2.5 hp, 6 gallon per minute pump adjustable to 160 psi. He's going to check the prices for me tomorrow since it's a special order.

Does anyone have any experience with the FIMCO 40 gallon TR-40-GAS?

Or does anyone have recommendations on another model that can handle the job

Thanks,
VA

SCHABEN industries has a 40gal.with 2.5hp motor(model#FSTS-40-2.5-4)trailer model.
6G.P.M,25ft hose&handgun,0-120psi adj.pressure,price is $948.15 if you wont a boom kit a 2 nozzle(80in.coverage area)$40.95,a 5 nozzle(100in.coverage area)$122.85. Maybe that will give you another option.
 
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What were you spraying though , sediment will block full sized sprayers too , some custom guys will not apply powder or granular based products .
 
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What were you spraying though , sediment will block full sized sprayers too , some custom guys will not apply powder or granular based products .

Liquid Lime concentrate from AGGRAND. It's a little gritty, but I dilute it one gallon to 40 gallons water. I would hope a pump could handle that????
 
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Liquid Lime concentrate from AGGRAND. It's a little gritty, but I dilute it one gallon to 40 gallons water. I would hope a pump could handle that????

I'd bet its not the pump ... the "little gritty" is plugging the strainer or the sprayer nozzles's ...I have a fimco with a 12 volt pump as well as a 3 point with a pto pump and with a boomless nozzle ... if your product is mixed right ... no problems. Yours does have the pre strainer?
 
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I'd bet its not the pump ... the "little gritty" is plugging the strainer or the sprayer nozzles's ...I have a fimco with a 12 volt pump as well as a 3 point with a pto pump and with a boomless nozzle ... if your product is mixed right ... no problems. Yours does have the pre strainer?

Yes it blocks filters and nozzles not pump. I dont know any grain guys that would let you put that stuff in their sprayers !
 
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Two observations from a commercial applicator.

Fimco is a hobby machine and you got great advice on Scaben Industries. There is no comparison.

The lime material you are using, in addition to having so little neutralizing value to be very questionable, will clog everything and will tear that little electric pump to pieces.

I run two full blown spray machines with outstanding recirculation and I would expect that stuff to settle in the tank, lines and screens.

According to the label, it takes 7200 pounds of that stuff equals 2000 pounds of ag lime in neutralizing power. Yikes! What does it cost?
 
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Two observations from a commercial applicator.

Fimco is a hobby machine and you got great advice on Scaben Industries. There is no comparison.

The lime material you are using, in addition to having so little neutralizing value to be very questionable, will clog everything and will tear that little electric pump to pieces.

I run two full blown spray machines with outstanding recirculation and I would expect that stuff to settle in the tank, lines and screens.

According to the label, it takes 7200 pounds of that stuff equals 2000 pounds of ag lime in neutralizing power. Yikes! What does it cost?
I use a 300gal.Continental Belton(only had it a year but no issues to date),I just looked and AgMeier has a 55gal.trailer with 3.5hp(TC-60)
AgGrand liquid lime wholesale price is $5.70/32oz,$44.65/2.5gal,$737.00/55gal.
MONTY'S Liquid Carbon may be something that your current sprayer may work well with to help optimize your soil condition,and they have an all-purpose growth 8-16-8
 
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32 ounces/1000 sq feet every 3-4 weeks

$5.70 times 43....almost $250/ac per application


Someday I'll come up with something like this
 
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I own a 25 gallon gas powered Fimco trailer sprayer, with the same pump.

In order to spray 5 acres with 2-4-D, it is probably going to take 4-6 hours, And it's going to take more than one tank of gasoline for the pump.

If you want to do it faster, you need to spend a lot more money.

I use Trimec, rather than 2-4-D. It is much more effective, especially on clover.

I do not use liquid for lime or fertilizer, it's much easier, and also cheaper, to use dry.

Yes, the 12 volt sprayers are pretty much a joke. Unless you have a small area, or you just want to spot spray, avoid them. They are woefully inadequate for spraying acreage.
 
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I would like to use powdered ag lime, but it's not easy getting the one guy that spreads lime in the tri-county area to come out. I have very low ph. My property was a forest four years ago. I use the liquid because it's my only viable option, unless I want to buy my own spreader truck.

So, is the consensus that I should not run the liquid lime through any sprayer?

I can clean out the lines, sprayers, and the tank after each use, so if the lime is not going to actually damage the pump, then I don't mind a little extra work cleaning everything.

VA
 
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In my opinion you are throwing your money away on this liquid stuff. Soil ph is a simple formula that no special stuff can change. Your best option if you cannot get Aglime spread is pell lime. The product you referenced is a total ripoff in cost, neutralizing ability
 
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the residue will be a lot more inconvenient than washing out after ....It will happen frequetly throughout the job and for a while to come in further jobs ..it's hard to flush that in one go !

I bought my current sprayer (hardi navigator 1000) and it came from a farm using a certain powder chemical which took me over 500 acres to get it fully cleaned of residue ..very annoying on a 100ft sprayer cleaning nozzles every hour or so .
Once it's in the system it's a bugger
 
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Yes, the 12 volt sprayers are pretty much a joke. Unless you have a small area, or you just want to spot spray, avoid them. They are woefully inadequate for spraying acreage.[/QUOTE]


I had the awesome idea of spraying about four acres with 25 gallon fimco 12 volt sprayer. I only mixed up ten gallons of 2,4-d (dont have applicators license so bought the small jug). Put sprayer in back of kubota and rode around with wand spraying goatweed. After an hour when I realized how much I had done, and winter was only six months away, well that idea got scrapped.
I dont understand why ya can buy the gallon jug of amine without license but not the 2 1/2 gallon jug. Couldnt I just buy three of the small containers?:confused2:
 
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Can I ask how you are spreading the powered lime? I am still trying to figure out the best place to buy it and how to spread it. Shovel is NO way to go that is for sure.
 
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Can I ask how you are spreading the powered lime? I am still trying to figure out the best place to buy it and how to spread it. Shovel is NO way to go that is for sure.

No, spreading lime with a shovel is a quick way to an early grave. The best way to hand spread lime is to use pellet lime and a broadcast spreader. Pellet lime is a bit more expensive than powder.

Liquid lime is allot more expensive than either and does not last as long in the soil. But, I think it is absorbed quicker and more efficiently into the soil.
 
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I dont understand why ya can buy the gallon jug of amine without license but not the 2 1/2 gallon jug.

Is that a local problem down there? I sure as heck don't have a special license and bought a 2.5 gallon jug for $40 last year at the local farm supply (Orschelns). I think TSC sells them for about $50.
 
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Can I ask how you are spreading the powered lime? I am still trying to figure out the best place to buy it and how to spread it. Shovel is NO way to go that is for sure.
Use pelletized lime and a rotary spreader -- either a small pull-behind type or a larger 3pt hitch PTO-driven type.

See also
http://mower-blades.agrisupply.com/search#w=spreader&asug=

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