Beating A Dead Horse?

BNJeepsta · Oct 14, 2016

oldpilgrim said:
consider that the Max26 has about 600 lbs more fel lift capacity than the Massey. That's nearly 80% more.

1402 vs 823.

I wonder why there would be such a large difference?

Although my dealer doesn't have one, the 1526 Mahindra interests me as well. Seems to be a bigger version of the Max26?

motownbrowne · Oct 14, 2016

BNJeepsta said:
Thanks for the replies everyone! All of you have given me a wealth of information and a lot more to consider!

I am more than willing to look at Kioti and LS as well. Honestly, the only tractors I won't consider are Deere's. The only reason for that is my local dealer is a consistent $3,500-4,500 more on everything. No offense to anyone here but, John Deere doesn't make anything that's worth that much more.

I'd like to hear from some of the LS, Kioti, Massey and Mahindra guys as well. I haven't ruled any of those tractors out and, if you can't tell, have no brand loyalty at the moment. I just want the most bang for my buck.

For a reasonably close, "apples to apples" comparison it would be?

Kubota - L2501

Massey - 1526

Mahindra - Max 26

LS - ???

Kioti - ???

The Kioti model would be the ck2610. I have no idea which other models compare to the 2501.

PJSprog · Oct 14, 2016

The current LS model in that 25HP category would be the XJ2025H (also available in gear).

oldpilgrim · Oct 14, 2016

BNJeepsta said:
I wonder why there would be such a large difference? Although my dealer doesn't have one, the 1526 Mahindra interests me as well. Seems to be a bigger version of the Max26?

Yup. Wider, higher, heavier, more stable, but not excessively large for the 'home' user. 3 speed. Considered by many to be the perfect size between sub compacts and larger ones .It feels much more like you're on a real tractor and not a pumped up mower.

It's the renumbered copy of my 3016.

kdo · Oct 14, 2016

I have a 2501hst that I purchased in June. It has been a great tractor. It has a ton of torque. The treadle pedal is no problem at all. I operate it just like the previous posters, heel on the deck and shift my foot for forward and reverse. I got mine for $18,400 out the door with FEL, cutter and box blade. You can't go wrong with it.

jeff9366 · Oct 14, 2016

MESSICK's, with five locations, is the highest volume Kubota dealer in Pennsylvania. Likely your lowest potential Kubota prices. Well regarded on T-B-N.

Messicks | Your home for New Holland, Case IH, Kubota & More...

prichard · Oct 14, 2016

Good point Jeff. If I was near Messicks I wouldn't hesitate to shop there. There are active here on the forum and offer a great deal of help to members.

paulfun9 · Oct 15, 2016

Grandad4 said:
Never quite understood why folks who drive a car and/or truck every day, often for hours on end, would have trouble using a foot pedal to make their tractor go forward, as in the first picture. Maybe I'm missing something but to me it's virtually identical to the gas pedal in my pickup. Then, backing up is done with the heel (second picture), something that was an easy habit to establish, at least for me.

Have to agree those brake pedals aren't set up to be used as split brakes, but almost never need such around my place.View attachment 484628 View attachment 484629

You must have short legs or something? WHen I sit on there my heel wants to be out where your toe is! No I"M not calling you names but genuinely uncomfortable with my leg back that far. If I had to sit like that in any of my trucks I would burn them and by something bigger!

DieselBound · Oct 15, 2016

k0ua said:
Your foot position is exactly how I operated my Kubota L3400hst when I had it. Except when doing fine precision grading , then I would put my foot on top of the pedal, because I am usually making many rapid directional changes back and forth.

What I wonder is since so many people object to the treadle pedal and no one seems to object to the two pedal system, why does Kubota insist on sticking with the single pedal system?

I don't really have a big preference either way. I have owned two HST tractors with the single pedal and one with the two pedal setup. I got along fine with either system. My current tractor the Kioti has the two pedal system and it is great. So was my last tractor the Kubota with the single pedal.

But most other manufactures have went to the two pedal system, and it seem that right out of the gate most people seem to prefer it. But to me is just doesn't make a whole lot of difference.

James, for me, as noted above, I DO like the treadle pedal mechanism. What I do NOT like is having all of it above deck, on the platform: it's like I have stuff "under foot" all the time- the space where you can rest your foot is reduced. I'm struggling (after my total of 12 minutes seat time so far:laughing

to get used to the two pedal system on the Kioti; but, I don't think that I'll find it uncomfortable, just need to reprogram my brain! I really do respect Kubota, and if anyone is on top of the game it's them, and they use the two pedal on their higher-end CUTs (not sure on their big utility tractors).

TripleR · Oct 15, 2016

they use the two pedal on their higher-end CUTs

Which ones, I've never seen them on any Kubota.

Different models have different designs, especially the Grand L though.

DieselBound · Oct 15, 2016

TripleR said:
they use the two pedal on their higher-end CUTs

Which ones, I've never seen them on any Kubota.

Different models have different designs, especially the Grand L though.

Appears I was mistaken. I was looking at pictures such as this:

http://www.kubota.com/assets/product/L60/images/Grand%20L60%20More%20Legroom%20(resized).jpg

Looked like two pedals. But, I don't think that it's quite a treadle pedal- a hybrid? For sure, for me anyway, it would be less of an issue, less floor space clutter. Sigh, the Grand Ls were out of my budget.

TripleR · Oct 15, 2016

DieselBound said:
Appears I was mistaken. I was looking at pictures such as this:

http://www.kubota.com/assets/product/L60/images/Grand%20L60%20More%20Legroom%20(resized).jpg

Looked like two pedals. But, I don't think that it's quite a treadle pedal- a hybrid? For sure, for me anyway, it would be less of an issue, less floor space clutter. Sigh, the Grand Ls were out of my budget.

I can sure understand the confusion on that one. I about cried when I wrote the check for my L5740HSTC, so I know the feeling, but I'm pretty old and don't play golf, drink, smoke, chase women (wife won't let me), go on vacations, so I went for it.

II believe some older Kiotis had rocker on some models, but won't bet the farm.

jeff9366 · Oct 15, 2016

TripleR said:
I can sure understand the confusion on that one. I about cried when I wrote the check for my 'Grand L' L5740HSTC, so I know the feeling, but I'm pretty old and don't play golf, drink, smoke, chase women (wife won't let me), go on vacations, so I went for it.

I acquired my Grand L L3760 at age 67 years for $27,000 new, after two lesser tractors. I figured, if not now, when?
Grand L de luxe features make tractoring easier on the aging body.

TripleR · Oct 15, 2016

jeff9366 said:
I acquired my Grand L L3760 at age 67 years for $27,000 new, after two lesser tractors. I figured, if not now, when?
Grand L de luxe features make tractoring easier on the aging body.

We grew smart close to the same age, got my L5030HSTC after bronchitis put me in the ER due to an old open station while cutting brush the two years later got my L5740HSTC, LOVE the HST+.

oldpilgrim · Oct 15, 2016

I DO like the treadle pedal mechanism. What I do NOT like is having all of it above deck, on the platform:

my Mahindra has a treadle but it's below the floor with only the pedal parts above. Works very good as far as I'm concerned.

oldpilgrim · Oct 15, 2016

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I believe some older Kiotis had rocker on some models, but won't bet the farm.

my brother's 2012 Ck20s has a rocker.

2ndhalf · Oct 16, 2016

All the tractors you mentioned are very good choices.. if I were looking today my short list would include most of them.. (Massey, Kubota) would be my starting 2 but I would conisider others.

For a lot of dirt work.. obviously a little larger is going to move dirt faster.. however..

If I were building MX jumps I wouldn't want a giant tractor to be driving over them while compacting them etc. I also wouldn't go with a BX size. Go at least a CUT. Compare the loader lift specs and load the tires since your going to be doing a lot of dirt work.

A small tractor SCUT size, which I have and love, could do it but it will just take longer and depending how much dirt your moving.. could take a lot longer.

BNJeepsta · Oct 17, 2016

Thanks for all the replies everyone! I spent some time this weekend really getting to know some of my local dealers and the products they have. I have narrowed it down to 3 tractors. The first being the Kubota L2501. I was able to sit on one (dealer was closed) and it felt perfect. The controls were right where I wanted them to be and the whole tractor just felt solid. Unfortunately, I was unable to drive it so I will have to wait to really weigh in on it. The second is the Kioti CK2610. I really enjoyed this tractor a lot. Although it wasn't as comfortable as the Kubota, the difference was minimal. The HST pedals were in a good spot and easy to use as well. The third contender is the Mahindra 1526. I was able to track one down at a dealership about an hour from me so I made the trip out. The only complaints I had about the Mahindra was the seat (hands-down, the worst seat I've encountered) and the loader controls. The seat is whatever in my book. That's not going to sway me one way or the other at this point. The loader controls just don't feel as nice as the Kioti or the Kubota's that I've tried. I didn't get to run the L2501 but, I would assume the loader is just as smooth as the other Kubota's I have used.
The 1526 I tested was a shuttle model and not HST so I can't comment on the HST on the Mahindra but, I can say that I am not interested in the shuttle shift models. The dealer informed me that it would be about $1,200 more for the HST. Even with the added $1,200 for HST, the Mahindra was considerably cheaper than Kioti.

oldpilgrim · Oct 17, 2016

check the fel, 3pt and overall weight specs of all of them and I think you'll see that the 1526 is heavier and stronger than the rest. The 1526 is based on a long proven design and one of the most dependable, quality machines of the Mahindra line. It's Mitsubishi made.