Battery Info

[IH3444]

Eddie quote,
"One of the reasons I don't want to use another factory battery is that it's been an issue from the beginning in winter. When temps are below freezing, it won't start unless I have my truck connected to it with jumper cables. That's happened multiple times in the last two winters."

TractorData.com Massey Ferguson 4707 tractor information

www.tractordata.com

Looks to be undersized from the Factory. My TC48 came with a 700CCA factory battery. Replaced with an 850CCA battery.

Electrical
Ground	negative
Charging system	alternator
Charging amps	80
Battery CCA	590
Battery volts	12

 

[grsthegreat]

I get so confused with battery quality now days. I have 2 different interstate batteries as an example. Battery 1 was installed in my kioti tractor 3 years ago, it was an exact replacement, brand and size, of the original battery that lasted 11 years. It died in 2 years and was replaced under warranty on October of last year. Its dead again. Dealer thinks bumpy ride of tractor is causing this from flooded battery, but than why did previous one last 11 years. Makes no sence. I replaced it last friday with a deka AGM and installed a battery maintainer, because the stupid battery cost $280.

The same original interstate battery is used in my dump trailer and that battery is running strong 10 years now, but has always had battery maintainer in use.

I also have a battery maintainer in my horse trailer. I just checked the CCA on that battery and its still 585 for a 650 battery. And its 14 years old according to the sticker. But this is a deep cycle interstate unit. There all the same interstate battery.

It has to be the battery maintainer at play. And there only 1 amp units.

I replaced the agm in my new to me F150 with a $300 agm. Now im thinking of placing a trickle charger on that also to extend its life.

 

[EddieWalker]

This is what I've been using to trickle charge my riding mower batteries, and I've been very pleased with it.

Amazon.com

I just noticed that it calls itself a "Junior" charger, and it says it's for motorcycles and ATV's. I'm guessing that it's too small for a tractor?

 

[ruffdog]

This is what I've been using to trickle charge my riding mower batteries, and I've been very pleased with it.

Amazon.com

I just noticed that it calls itself a "Junior" charger, and it says it's for motorcycles and ATV's. I'm guessing that it's too small for a tractor?

That is a bit small for a 800 CCA battery. I have been using the Plus model which is 1.25 amp and has been flawless so far.

Amazon.com

 

[EddieWalker]

Does this look like a better Battery Tender for a tractor that's parked outside, and about 30 feet from an outlet?

Amazon.com

I'll have to use an extension cord to get there, which I don't like, but will live with. I'm not sure where the Battery Tender will sit when it's hooked up. I guess under the hood?

Is it possible to charge a dead 3 year old battery and get more years of use out of it? Am I wasting my time?

 

[Topzide]

With some of the new maintainers that are on the market, you might breathe some life back into it! Certainly worth a try, since you'll be investing in maintainers. The NOCO have a force mode if stone cold dead. Others you may need to have another battery with some life to get it going.

 

[grsthegreat]

Im using Noco genius 1 chargers now, have 4, plus a noco genius 10 for charging larger batteries. Even though there only 1 amp, they can maintain the charge of my 700 cca batteries. Mind you, they cant bring back a depleated battery, but thats what the 10 amp unit is for. 1 amp is plenty to offset the draw down of the car and trailer batteries see from sitting for long periods.

 

[hayden]

Does the tractor sit for long periods of time unused? Long, as in a month or more? The earlier statement about electronics that remain on with a small power drain is very real. I have had trouble with cars left for months. Completely disconnecting the battery, or using a battery tender is the only solution I've been able to come up with. Just keep in mind that whatever background electronics draw might be present, that will essentially get deducted from the charger's output. So if you have a 1A tender and your electronics background load is 0.75A, then are only putting 0.25A into the battery and that's probably not enough. I'd lean towards a smallish automatic battery charger - one that does bulk and float charging. Or just install a disconnect switch.

 

[EddieWalker]

Yes, there are months where it just sits. The last time I mowed was probably in late August. I got most of the place mowed, except for the dam on my pond. I've been wanting to finish it off so I could take off the batwing and switch over to dirt work. But I've been focused on finishing off my fence and haven't gotten around to it.

I tried starting it yesterday and there was nothing. Not a single light lit up on the dash. It was totally dead. I tried my small battery charger with a 50 amp boost, but all it did was turn on the dash lights and the started made clicking noise. I did the same with jumpers from my truck and let my truck run for half an hour. Same results.

I'm sure the battery is gone. I'm just not sure if there is enough left to jump it if I charge it, or if that's a waste of time. It's tax season and I'd rather pay taxes then buy a $250 battery. But I'm just putting it off, I'll buy a new battery anyway, it's just a matter of now or in the New Year.

 

[IH3444]

EverStart Maxx Lead Acid Automotive Battery, Group Size H8 / LN5 / 49 12 Volt, 900 CCA $159.84​

• 3 year free replacement
• Cold cranking amps: 900
• Reserve capacity: 150 minutes
• Voltage: 12
• Terminal location: Top
• Free battery testing and installation at your local Walmart Auto Care Center. If you need to get rid of your old battery, there is free battery recycling at your local Walmart Price shown does not include the Core Battery charge (varies by state). Automotive battery purchases placed on dotcom will have core fee refunded with a gift card once battery cores are returned to stores. Selection and ratings can vary by store.

Robot or human?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/battery---accessories/batteries/31624da3221a/v/a/6208/automotive-car-1984-mercedes-benz-300sd?

Deka 649MF (H8/L5) Gold Series Automotive Battery (Group 49) 12 Volt 900 CCA | LaBatteries

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[KennyG]

Everyone likes to complain about batteries but I've had really good luck over the last few years. My tractor is 15 years old and I put the third battery in it last year. My truck is 8 years old and has the original battery. My wife's car is 12 years old and I replaced the battery two years ago just to be sure she doesn't have a problem but I'm still using the original battery as a spare utility battery.

 

[EddieWalker]

EverStart Maxx Lead Acid Automotive Battery, Group Size H8 / LN5 / 49 12 Volt, 900 CCA $159.84​

• 3 year free replacement
• Cold cranking amps: 900
• Reserve capacity: 150 minutes
• Voltage: 12
• Terminal location: Top
• Free battery testing and installation at your local Walmart Auto Care Center. If you need to get rid of your old battery, there is free battery recycling at your local Walmart Price shown does not include the Core Battery charge (varies by state). Automotive battery purchases placed on dotcom will have core fee refunded with a gift card once battery cores are returned to stores. Selection and ratings can vary by store.

Robot or human?

https://www.oreillyauto.com/shop/b/battery---accessories/batteries/31624da3221a/v/a/6208/automotive-car-1984-mercedes-benz-300sd?

Deka 649MF (H8/L5) Gold Series Automotive Battery (Group 49) 12 Volt 900 CCA | LaBatteries

labatteries.com

That's a really good price from Walmart. But it's not available at any of my local stores. I'm trying to broaden my search, but so far, it's not happening

 

[jyoutz]

Eddie, I guess I'm lucky or on borrowed time. The battery is my LS tractor is still the original now 10 (almost 11 in 3 months) years old. The tractor is in the garage in the winter (5-6 months here) and I keep it on a trickle charger during winter. Spring, summer and fall its kept outside Hard to believe you only got 3 years from yours. I would think being in a warmer climate your batteries would last longer.
My Wife's 2016 car is kept outside and just replaced her battery after 8 years. My truck is also 2016 and is on its second battery. 1st one was defective and replaced under warranty in early 2018 so replaced the battery is 6 years old.
The price of batteries today has gone way up. I usually get my replacements from a battery store that is usually $30-40 cheaper than auto parts place.

It seems like batteries today are a crap shoot. I’ve had some that have lasted 10 years, and others die in 3.

 

[jyoutz]

That's a really good price from Walmart. But it's not available at any of my local stores. I'm trying to broaden my search, but so far, it's not happening

You can order it from Walmart.com and pick it up at your local store.

 

[EddieWalker]

Not according to what it's telling me after I logged in. Either it's just my area of Texas, or it's all over, but it's not available to order, or have delivered.

 

[Topzide]

The flooded cell isn't in stock at warehouses. For $20 more, the AGM also gives you a 48 mo warranty. They are available to ship if your local store doesn't have one. I like the AGM's, and have had good luck with them. They take vibration better.

 

[IH3444]

EverStart Platinum BOXED AGM Battery, Group Size H8 / LN5 / 49 12 Volt, 900 CCA $179.84​

• Ship straight to home
• Absorbent Glass Mat (AGM) technology
• 4 year free replacement warranty
• Cold cranking amps: 900
• Reserve capacity: 160 minutes
• Free battery testing and installation at your local Walmart Auto Care Center. If you need to get rid of your old battery, there is free battery recycling at your local Walmart Price shown does not include the Core Battery charge (varies by state). Automotive battery purchases placed on dotcom will have core fee refunded with a gift card once battery cores are returned to stores. Selection and ratings can vary by store.

EverStart Platinum BOXED AGM Battery, Group Size H8 / LN5 / 49 12 Volt, 900 CCA - Walmart.com

Buy EverStart Platinum BOXED AGM Battery, Group Size H8 / LN5 / 49 12 Volt, 900 CCA at Walmart.com

www.walmart.com

 

[EddieWalker]

Robot or human?

I think this is the one. They say it can be delivered to my house this week. Seems weird not turning in the old one for a core charge.

 

[IH3444]

They may charge you a core charge, then you drop off a used battery to Walmart to get your credit for returning the core. I usually have several spare absolutely dead batteries for just returning a core when I purchase a battery.

• 4 year free replacement warranty, hard to beat.

 

[not2old]

This is what I've been using to trickle charge my riding mower batteries, and I've been very pleased with it.

Amazon.com

I just noticed that it calls itself a "Junior" charger, and it says it's for motorcycles and ATV's. I'm guessing that it's too small for a tractor?

I bought a 3/4 amp Noco for my dirt bike as the manual said not to use bigger. When I left something on in my truck, the Optima battery was absolutely dead after about three weeks. I put this charger on it and it took more than three days before it quit charging and went into float. Should be OK if your tractor doesn't use power when not in use.